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2025 SSA Form 7162 - "Hello, are you dead yet?" forms.

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5 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Who cars about SS 7162 form ...

... SS DD in BBL, right on time, and that's all that matters :coffee1:

You will not get anything if you can't file the form.

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4 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

You will not get anything if you can't file the form.

I can mail a form in, as many as I want, any time I want.  The silliness of 'OMG, where's the form at', is a bit comical.   Geez, just download one & mail it.

 

It's not even late, and if it never arrives ... OMG, what do I do :cheesy:

 

I could just change me address to USA, an never think about the form again 😎

On 6/27/2025 at 6:54 PM, connda said:

It's the fact that the Wilkes-Barr PO sits on it.  Tell me that's not pre-arranged between SSA and USPS.  

Or on order of DeJoy.

12 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I can mail a form in, as many as I want, any time I want.  The silliness of 'OMG, where's the form at', is a bit comical.   Geez, just download one & mail it.

 

It's not even late, and if it never arrives ... OMG, what do I do :cheesy:

 

I could just change me address to USA, an never think about the form again 😎

The form  is late compared to previous years but you are right, we have not passed the date line. Since no one has received the form, we should keep calm and see what happens next, don't worry, we are in this together.

6 minutes ago, Thailand J said:

The form  is late compared to previous years but you are right, we have not passed the date line. Since no one has received the form, we should keep calm and see what happens next, don't worry, we are in this together.

Funny, social security is right on the ball sending me a deceptive POLITICAL PROPAGANDA email today (and I assume everyone else) about the so called big beautiful bill but can't manage to send out these critical forms in a timely manner. I agree -- they will probably come this month, but the last thing I want from a government agency is to be assaulted with partisan political propaganda. 

41 minutes ago, Thailand J said:

The form  is late compared to previous years

 

In 2022 first arrived July 8.

 

 

But yes, normally mid-June-ish.

 

I didn't look at posts for previous years.

 

 

41 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Funny, social security is right on the ball sending me a deceptive POLITICAL PROPAGANDA email today (and I assume everyone else) about the so called big beautiful bill but can't manage to send out these critical forms in a timely manner. I agree -- they will probably come this month, but the last thing I want from a government agency is to be assaulted with partisan political propaganda. 

From reading all you posts, I think you are getting very close to winning a free trip to El Salvador.

Just joking...

58 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

but the last thing I want from a government agency is to be assaulted with partisan political propaganda. 

Remove 'govt agency', and now you know how we feel ... :cheesy:

 

I didn't receive anything, but pretty sure I'm not on any govt mailing list.  The less contact with any govt, the better.

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

email today

 

Yeah, that was weird; it was the first time I've ever received an email from SSA.

 

from:    Social Security Administration <[email protected]>

 

mailed-by:    us-east.subscriptions.ssa.gov

 

 

Also posted on the ssa blog

 

https://blog.ssa.gov/social-security-applauds-passage-of-legislation-providing-historic-tax-relief-for-seniors/

 

 

1 hour ago, Thailand J said:

Since no one has received the form, ........

Again..... You're positive that everyone who is a US citizen receiving SS is an AN forum member?

 

 

Just now, dingdongrb said:

Again..... You're positive that everyone who is a US citizen receiving SS is an AN forum member?

 

 

Of course not but it's a large sample and we would know by now if anyone in Thailand got the form yet.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Of course not but it's a large sample and we would know by now if anyone in Thailand got the form yet.

"......if anyone in Thailand.... "

 

...but it appears you seem to think so

 

Just an FYI....  I used to get emails from SS (often) but I chose a selection which only sends me an email notification when there's a new message in 'my Social Security' Message Center.  I got no email today. The last email I received was in May 2024 telling me that there's a new statement for review in my Social Security'.........  prior to that there was an email in Oct '24 talking about the upcoming COLA (which occurred for 2025).

Just now, dingdongrb said:

"......if anyone in Thailand.... "

 

...but it appears you seem to think so

 

Just an FYI....  I used to get emails from SS (often) but I chose a selection which only sends me an email notification when there's a new message in 'my Social Security' Message Center.  I got no email today. The last email I received was in May 2024 telling me that there's a new statement for review in my Social Security'.........  prior to that there was an email in Oct '24 talking about the upcoming COLA (which occurred for 2025).

I was talking about the proof of life form dude.

17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I was talking about the proof of life form dude.

...and I was talking about 2 things:

 

- proof of life form

- getting emails from SSA

 

DUDE!!!

19 minutes ago, dingdongrb said:

...and I was talking about 2 things:

 

- proof of life form

- getting emails from SSA

 

DUDE!!!

You sound triggered.

5 minutes ago, Thailand J said:

I got the e-mail too.

The tax benefit phase out for those with income over $75000 ,it expires on 2028 and only for those over 65.

(info from The Daily Beast)

2 thoughts ... 'daily beast' ... :cheesy:

 

Do people over 65, really need a tax benefit if earning $75k.   Their house should be paid for, no kids at home.   

 

I never had a salaried job over $50k, and people working that same job now, aren't making $60k a year.  Having mortgage / rent payments and possibly kids at home.

The Daily Beast: Under the megabill, seniors get an additional deduction of $6,000 off their taxes ($12,000 for couples). But that deduction begins phasing out for those who earn more than $75,000 ($150,000 for couples) and disappears entirely for those earning more than $175,000 ($250,000 for couples). The tax break also expires at the end of Trump’s term in 2028.

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4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Funny, social security is right on the ball sending me a deceptive POLITICAL PROPAGANDA email today (and I assume everyone else) about the so called big beautiful bill but can't manage to send out these critical forms in a timely manner. I agree -- they will probably come this month, but the last thing I want from a government agency is to be assaulted with partisan political propaganda. 

 

Yea, I got that, too. It's unnerving.

2 hours ago, Thailand J said:

I got the e-mail too.

The tax benefit phase out for those with income over $75000 ,it expires on 2028 and only for those over 65.

(info from The Daily Beast)

 

 

The main lie there was that a large percentage of SS recipients ALREADY pay no tax because of low income.

So the sleazeball liar in chief is trying to take credit for something low income people already experience. 

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2 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Yea, I got that, too. It's unnerving.

Yeah to call something "beautiful" that's designed to kick the most vulnerable many of millions Americans off health care (and food assistance) leading to so many deaths to pay for tax breaks for the wealthiest is totally OBSCENE. This president is shameless in the extreme. America first? No. Only certain Americans.

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Remove 'govt agency', and now you know how we feel ... :cheesy:

 

I didn't receive anything, but pretty sure I'm not on any govt mailing list.  The less contact with any govt, the better.

I have no idea what you're talking about. 

6 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

a large percentage of SS recipients ALREADY pay no tax because of low income.

Low income recipients  with SS benefit  below standard deduction pay no tax anyway. Those who need it most  are not getting any help.

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The main lie there was that a large percentage of SS recipients ALREADY pay no tax because of low income.

So the sleazeball liar in chief is trying to take credit for something low income people already experience. 

 

Yep. Remember the Covid stimulus checks he insisted go out with his name on them? Every lowlife move possible.

I'm afraid the future is constantly proving you're alive, that you're not a criminal and that you're not a robot. This never used to be a problem.

Why can't folks stay on topic and start a new thread if needed?

 

This thread is not about taxation......

 

.......isn't that right DUDE?

Unpopular opinion, but I do not believe they are “on their way”.  If that was the case, someone has gone into the system for the first time in the last 10 years (since I’ve been getting them), and has changed the date on the form from June 1 to a later date for them to be generated and sent.  Why would they do that?

 

Regarding work around, I’ve heard so many stories of them not accepting the form unless it has the preprinted bar code etc etc.

 

What do you guys think about someone actually anonymously calling SSA in Baltimore and asking a representative what is going on?  I haven’t had experience ever calling them.

 

Please - no hate.  We are in this together.

40 minutes ago, MJoe said:

Unpopular opinion, but I do not believe they are “on their way”.  If that was the case, someone has gone into the system for the first time in the last 10 years (since I’ve been getting them), and has changed the date on the form from June 1 to a later date for them to be generated and sent.  Why would they do that?

 

Regarding work around, I’ve heard so many stories of them not accepting the form unless it has the preprinted bar code etc etc.

 

What do you guys think about someone actually anonymously calling SSA in Baltimore and asking a representative what is going on?  I haven’t had experience ever calling them.

 

Please - no hate.  We are in this together.

Impossible to know.

Perhaps the Doge big balls boys fired the grey hair that made this happen.

Doubtful that the well being of Americans out of sight out of mind is any kind of priority to maga.

1 hour ago, Baht Simpson said:

I'm afraid the future is constantly proving you're alive, that you're not a criminal and that you're not a robot. This never used to be a problem.

They could make lt easier with an online solution but they won't. 

It's certainly an uneasy feeling knowing SSA was supposed to mail the 7162 in early June after Musk and Rump laid off thousands of workers and totally gummed up SS offices throughout the country. Certainly an explanation of the late forms would be given if the late mailing was an honest mistake, but you won't find one. Of course the intention is to stop payments to as many SS recipients as possible, and they'll be looking for ways to stall benefits to expats and destroy the system. I think it not advisable to just stew about it, so I scanned a copy of last year's form (to preserve the barcode) and blanked out the old signature and date, printed, signed and dated for myself and two friends and sent those yesterday to Wilkes-Barre common mail. In a month I'll email Manilla and ask if it was received and attach a scanned copy of the signed forms. Usually, they will confirm it was received and have previously accepted scanned copies and marked them received w/o further ado. Well, we'll see now. If they haven't gotten recorded by October, rinse and repeat. 

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