1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Not caring too much about anything, and keeping a firm grip on your assets.

Confused - I thought a major reason was just so you didn't have to keep  firm grip on at least one of your assets 

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

With a recent poll showing about 50% of members of this forum met their wives/girlfriends in beer bars, gogos, massage shops or online what specific personality traits are needed for a man to have a successful relationship with these types of women?

The woke Malcolm is picking on poor bar girls.

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

With a recent poll showing about 50% of members of this forum met their wives/girlfriends in beer bars, gogos, massage shops or online what specific personality traits are needed for a man to have a successful relationship with these types of women?

 

 

.....and the other 50% were conned or simply lied?

 

 

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I reckon it's a bad translation....... cowgirl. 

 

Woman on top is any sex position in which the woman is on top of her sexual partner during sexual activity. The position most commonly associated with the woman on top is often called the cowgirl

yeah no thanks.

 

That makes it too hard to drink booze and smoke cones.

34 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Are you one of those mugs who married a bar girl then?

Nah, my wife is from Poland.

Car detailer when I met her.

Our girlfriend is a bar sluzza though.

32 minutes ago, Keeps said:

 

You don't even know your own mum's phone number? That's very poor form Malky boy.

I have your mum’s phone number though.

Let me know if you forget and I will forward to you.

She said to say hello.

1 hour ago, CharlieH said:

If a guy has had more than 50, is he damaged? or is he a lucky git, 

 

 

Or hung like a racehorse (guess that would make him a lucky git) and cashed up? 

9 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

.....and the other 50% were conned or simply lied?

 

 

I would say add 10% to both categories.

So the figure would be around 70%+

Just depends on whether they are a decent human being or not.   Economic means of makinga living is not really relevant.  Jut take time to find out whether they are a decent human being or not.  Given the levels of poverty in Thailand, many make money is ways where some from the west would look at it askance.   But it is just a economically valid answer for many.

Bar girl or not, most who search out westerns do have reasons for doing so, and you truly never know who this fabulous girl is. 

 

I wouldn’t go with a short timer, party girl, who worked in a typical prostitution bar, agogo, fish tank massage or number place. 

 

I prefer Thai girls who had experienced long term relationships with a foreigner, preferably from a nordic country, with good manners, polite, good language, not drinking, or drinking little, do not drink beer or liquor, do not lie to much (everybody lies, its human), can handle money, do not live in a tourist place, like to exercise, fish, pick berries, mushrooms, like to cook, dress nice and decent not in a slutty way, and also not being a «influencer» or digital creator. Today it seems every girl who is with a foreigner is a digital creator.

 

Enjoy a glass of wine and live jazz is a pluss 

It's a job, that's all.  The same type of people work in every industry.

 

The question you have to ask yourself, will a 20 something, possibly uneducated gal / guy have any interest in you, within the next 2 or 3 yrs.  And do you need any intelligent conversations, as only sex will get quite old, very fast.

 

Will you be hanging out with her 20 something year old friends when you're late 50's, 60, 70 ?

1 minute ago, MarkBR said:

Just depends on whether they are a decent human being or not.   Economic means of makinga living is not really relevant.  Jut take time to find out whether they are a decent human being or not.  Given the levels of poverty in Thailand, many make money is ways where some from the west would look at it askance.   But it is just an economically valid answer for many.

The thread is about what traits the man needs in these sort of relationships.

Refined and tender...that's me

 

Ain't no dent that can't be buffed out.

Include straight jacket size.  

3 hours ago, novacova said:

Of course not. A famished creature is going to gravitate toward the easiest pickings. Bargirls are low hanging fruit for the desperate.

They are low hanging and this undeniable.  Just stating the obvious but how about trying to answer the OP with being righteous... 

 

To answer the OP - the capability not to rush into a relationship regardless of the desperation,  set boundaries like in  all relationships, know  your needs, know her needs, and again - don't rush into it.  See too many relationships here that have lasted decades and are pathetic.  People seem to think length equals satisfaction (hmm, that sounds weird). 

 

In my current relationship - not a bar girl.  I pretty much ignored all the above and I(we i think) are extremely satisfied  so I'm basically full of it. Revised advice - ignore everything I've recommended.

51 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

 

 

Will you be hanging out with her 20 something year old friends when you're late 50's, 60, 70 ?

 

They will be frolicking in my yard swimming in my pool hopefully.

I won't be here to enjoy though.

British kings have married hookers and lived happily ever after,so it’s nothing new

2 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

British kings have married hookers and lived happily ever after,so it’s nothing new

 

Wasnt that just a keeping up appeareances thing though... as they secretly were taking it balls deep into their rectums from the male servants.

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I find it interesting that of all the guys that I know that have gotten together with bar girls, only one freely admits it. When someone asks where did you meet your wife, he says oh she was working in a bar and I picked her up and fell in love with her. I really admire him for that. 

 

I know other guys that make up all kinds of stories about the university degrees and all kinds of crazy fake background, but you can smell nonsense when you hear it 

I sent mine to high school and then university.

You want one of them 'educated women', make your own, not that expensive.

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

I wouldn’t go with a short timer, party girl, who worked in a typical prostitution bar, agogo, fish tank massage or number place. 

How would you know?

You think when they have their street clothes on, you could tell?

You also think women never lie about their pasts?

Lots of YT sites telling stories of mugs who married bar girls, this is one of the biggest loses. Dummy bought a string of condos in his Nana Plaza bar girl wife name, with predicatable results

 

 

Well, meeting online is not exactly bar scene meeting. 

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

There are a few reasons men choose bargirls.

 

Inability to maintain a relationship with a normal woman.  

 

Many bad experiences with normal women so they choose a bargirl as it will cause less troubles (easier to leave).

 

Narcissism, a need to control, abuse or use.

 

Easier to maintain a relationship as it's only money with no emotions, love or honesty needed. A slave to do their bidding because they're paying.

 

Low self esteem. Thinking no one normal would want them.

 

Escapism from loneliness,

 

A  hatred for woman stemming from their childhood anger against their mothers. 

 

Some of this pertains to just going with bargirls and not necessarily marriage.

 

Because they look hot as f**k!

12 hours ago, KhunLA said:

It's a job, that's all.  The same type of people work in every industry.

 

The question you have to ask yourself, will a 20 something, possibly uneducated gal / guy have any interest in you, within the next 2 or 3 yrs.  And do you need any intelligent conversations, as only sex will get quite old, very fast.

 

Will you be hanging out with her 20 something year old friends when you're late 50's, 60, 70 ?

 

Who says bar girls are 20 sth?

There's a lot of older ones still working in the bars. 

 

22 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

How would you know?

You think when they have their street clothes on, you could tell?

You also think women never lie about their pasts?

I think I answered everything in my post, saying you can't really know, but I can add, by time you will know what kind of girls she really is. 

 

What is easy to know, if they had been in a long term relationship or not. 

 

Everybody lies, it is part of the game. What matters is the degree of the lies, and you can still live with it when you discover the real truth, or it is to late, because you already invested to much. Both emotionally and financially. 

 

A good thumb of rule, do not invest more than you can walk away from.

 

Even after soon 10 years I haven't invested more than I can walk away from and never look back, but so far haven't found a good enough reason. 

 

A quick calculation on the realistic view of my situation what I invested in her solely 1000,- baht a day for gf/wife, house, cleaner, cook, a partner, best friend, +++++

 

But everything above, can't be valued in money I would had spent anyway. It is not a money thing, but I know somebody have a different view of it. 

 

 

11 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

Because they look hot as f**k!

 

Yeah but if thats your only criteria for choosing a wife, good luck. 

 

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

I would say add 10% to both categories.

So the figure would be around 70%+

 

 

Wouldn't that be 120%

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Bar girl or not, most who search out westerns do have reasons for doing so, and you truly never know who this fabulous girl is. 

 

I wouldn’t go with a short timer, party girl, who worked in a typical prostitution bar, agogo, fish tank massage or number place. 

 

I prefer Thai girls who had experienced long term relationships with a foreigner, preferably from a nordic country, with good manners, polite, good language, not drinking, or drinking little, do not drink beer or liquor, do not lie to much (everybody lies, its human), can handle money, do not live in a tourist place, like to exercise, fish, pick berries, mushrooms, like to cook, dress nice and decent not in a slutty way, and also not being a «influencer» or digital creator. Today it seems every girl who is with a foreigner is a digital creator.

 

Enjoy a glass of wine and live jazz is a pluss 

Enjoying a glass of wine is such a rare skill these days... 

4 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Because they look hot as f**k!

Which means they've been a target for many men over the years, and likely to have given in to those who know how to BS. Attraction is first and gets many into trouble, but one you want to spend a lot of time or possibly a life with  has to have more going for her, as those looks will fade fast, especially for Thais after 40, seeing we're talking about here, but the same everywhere.  Loyalty, a caring, loving personality, not material addicted, and one you can trust is a lot more important

Yet another misogynistic thread to enable incel losers to post their uninformed prejudicices.