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Every nightlife place is different and it depends on the Mama san so it's a difficult question to answer and also it depends how long she stays there.

31 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

How would you know that?

Any "normal" woman who has slept with over 100 men (if they even exist) would never admit it to anyone. 

How many hookers have you had a serious relationship with then to know this with any degree of certainty?

Sorry, I'm calling BS on all these statistics. 

 

I don't think that I've ever had a serious relationship with a hooker, but I have had a serious a few serious relationships with women who freely admitted that they were quite promiscuous in their younger years, and when I queried them about the number of men they dated it was fairly easy for me to conclude that they had been with well over a hundred men.

 

I didn't have any issues with that. I don't apply a different standard to women than I apply to myself, and believe me I've been around the block. 

 

Again I double down on the theory that a lot of women have been with way more men than they would ever admit to, as you said, or far more men than we think they've been with, and I don't know why that's an issue. 

 

Especially for those of us who have slept with a lot of women, it's really unfair to apply a different standard to them. 

All depends on the individual. There are good people in this world and bad

On 7/11/2025 at 2:45 PM, Hummin said:

Interesting, I have met many men who lives in the more tourist infested places in Thailand, who stopped seeing women as humans. 

 

So back to your question, the more these ladies meet these fine men, the less they think of men in a good way. 

 

Many girls are broken before they, Attend the scene, but It is understandable a lot more will brake down being used and abused for money. 

 

Same goes for ladies as men who frequently use other people, some is genuine good, while others if not bad from the beginning, they becomes dehumanized 

Thank you, a very good comment after a long time❤️

On 7/11/2025 at 4:17 PM, Hummin said:

Every woman likes attention from others, so do we, nothing wrong about it, as long they not provoking on purpose.

 

And for getting married from being used to have money they controlled themselves, and have to ask for money, I think speaks for itself.

 

Most who met an Asian lady, did not know their expectations, maybe bragged a bit to much about their wealth, and showed off, for later showing their true self, and not be the man they thought he was. 

 

Common mistake among most who comes here on holidays and spends a fortune everytime. 

 

When expectations is not met?

What happens to you?  Today. A lot of exceptional good and true comments. ❤️ Less trolling👍

Some women will change and some will not .   Some change dramatically when they get married.   Its not just the bar scene that changes them

I only found out that my girlfriend used to be a bar girl after I was dating her for about six months. I really would never have guessed, because she doesn't speak a word of English, she's extremely shy, and she's not particularly great in the sack either. But the story came out later...

 

It was a big shock to me because I've always had a rule that I won't date bar girls. But hey, it's a rare case where I didn't know that before, and her story was convincing enough that I have given her the benefit of the doubt. Apparently, she was bullied into it by her narcissistic, drug-addicted mother who constantly demands money from her and puts her under a lot of pressure to do it. She lasted about two months, absolutely hated it, and had 2-3 very bad experiences, judging by what she told me.

 

Not surprisingly, she doesn't like talking about it at all, but fortunately she seems to have moved past it. 

On 7/11/2025 at 2:37 PM, SoCal1990 said:

It’s something I’ve heard said more than a few times, that women who spend enough time working in Thailand’s nightlife scene can never really go back to seeing male–female relationships in the same humanistic way again.

 

After a certain point, some say they stop viewing men as people and start seeing them purely as wallets. Acts of genuine care or generosity expressed by a man aren’t seen as kindness anymore, but as obligations, or even just opportunities to extract more from a man. Manipulation becomes a skill, and emotional connection starts to feel irrelevant.

 

There’s also the idea that after being with a large number of men, purely as a business transaction, that something shifts in them mentally. That it changes how they view sex, intimacy, and even themselves. That the line between affection and performance blurs so much, they eventually lose track of what’s real and can never recover from having turned into some form of emotionally damaged goods. 

 

Maybe it’s just an undeserved stereotype used to shame women in the industry, or maybe there’s an uncomfortable truth buried within there. But is it even fair to blame them? Or is it just a consequence of doing what they had to do to survive in a system that rewards them for being that way?

If we started a GoFundMe to pay you to desist, would you be tempted?
 

Of course they do!😆

On 7/12/2025 at 7:32 AM, save the frogs said:

 

Documented where? 

Here!  https://www.caase.org/mental-health-impacts-of-sex-trade/

 

https://instituteofcounseling.org/the-psychological-effects-of-prostitution/

 

https://hub.edubirdie.com/examples/psychological-and-physical-effects-of-prostitution-on-the-prostitute/

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1326020023028546

 

  Shall I go on??? 

On 7/11/2025 at 9:37 AM, SoCal1990 said:

After a certain point, some say they stop viewing men as people and start seeing them purely as wallets.

A woman don't need to work in the nightlife for seeing that...

Some women in Thailand are adversely affected by bar work, but not the majority. I have many friends who are happily married to former bar girls, and have been so for many years.

5 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

What happens to you?  Today. A lot of exceptional good and true comments. ❤️ Less trolling👍

I didnt know I was trolling!

 

I can be an A if I'm debating one, sure

.....or if you misinterpret the comments of another.

On 7/11/2025 at 4:13 PM, norsurin said:

To be honest they used to get paid and that will continue if they stop working in a bar etc.

My exwife worked in a bar..and the manager called her everyday ask her to come back.I told her to change her number and she did.After 2 years we get married and had 2 kids together.Anyway i saw that she liked the attention from other men.I brought her and our kids to my country 18 years ago..and i never regret that.That said i meet many girls who's totally addicted to the nightlife and they will not stop before they get so old that nobody wants them anymore.I was in beer garden in Bangkok and i talked with 2 old ladies who still selling themselves but then as freelancers.Their age was 63 and 65.

Who pays for a woman in her sixties? There are very few Thai women over 40 that are still physically appealing. 

The only explanation I have is a tiny majority of men who have a fetish for geriatrics. That would explain the geriatric category on pornsites .

4 minutes ago, thecyclist said:

Who pays for a woman in her sixties? There are very few Thai women over 40 that are still physically appealing. 

The only explanation I have is a tiny majority of men who have a fetish for geriatrics. That would explain the geriatric category on pornsites .

Some guys like the wery old ladies.These two i meet offered me many kind of styles in bed.Anyway i said no thanks.

I prefer 35+ but have a limit about age I meet some age 45 that really looking good and sexy.Their often more calmed and behave llike an adult not like the young ones who's often wery childish.

On 7/11/2025 at 2:37 PM, SoCal1990 said:

It’s something I’ve heard said more than a few times, that women who spend enough time working in Thailand’s nightlife scene can never really go back to seeing male–female relationships in the same humanistic way again.

 

Could it also be true of men who spend enough time in Thailand's nightlife scene? 🤔

On 7/16/2025 at 4:19 AM, Quack said:

I only found out that my girlfriend used to be a bar girl after I was dating her for about six months. I really would never have guessed, because she doesn't speak a word of English, she's extremely shy, and she's not particularly great in the sack either. But the story came out later...

 

It was a big shock to me because I've always had a rule that I won't date bar girls. But hey, it's a rare case where I didn't know that before, and her story was convincing enough that I have given her the benefit of the doubt. Apparently, she was bullied into it by her narcissistic, drug-addicted mother who constantly demands money from her and puts her under a lot of pressure to do it. She lasted about two months, absolutely hated it, and had 2-3 very bad experiences, judging by what she told me.

 

Not surprisingly, she doesn't like talking about it at all, but fortunately she seems to have moved past it. 

 

Her mother still alive?

 

 

On 7/13/2025 at 7:12 PM, deja vu again said:

Here's one for your AI to chew on, SoCal: 

 

All women everywhere that work in a bars love men, and every man that meets them love them too.  And after every short time and every long time they all live happily ever after.  

On 7/11/2025 at 2:37 PM, SoCal1990 said:

It’s something I’ve heard said more than a few times, that women who spend enough time working in Thailand’s nightlife scene can never really go back to seeing male–female relationships in the same humanistic way again.

 

After a certain point, some say they stop viewing men as people and start seeing them purely as wallets. Acts of genuine care or generosity expressed by a man aren’t seen as kindness anymore, but as obligations, or even just opportunities to extract more from a man. Manipulation becomes a skill, and emotional connection starts to feel irrelevant.

 

There’s also the idea that after being with a large number of men, purely as a business transaction, that something shifts in them mentally. That it changes how they view sex, intimacy, and even themselves. That the line between affection and performance blurs so much, they eventually lose track of what’s real and can never recover from having turned into some form of emotionally damaged goods. 

 

Maybe it’s just an undeserved stereotype used to shame women in the industry, or maybe there’s an uncomfortable truth buried within there. But is it even fair to blame them? Or is it just a consequence of doing what they had to do to survive in a system that rewards them for being that way?

Just exactly where did you drag this totally uninteresting narrative from?

Please be aware that of the 70 million women who live in Thailand the majority, maybe 65% of them, are simply normal women who live ordinary, happy, normal lives - just as other women do around the world, and don't really exist entirely in Girlie bars grinding their vaginas around some fat slob of a foreigner or manchild Thai person.

Some people just love to degrade women!

On 7/14/2025 at 11:14 AM, spidermike007 said:

I like it. Creative. Nice one. However I disagree with the 100 to 200. I think you'd be astonished at the number of women who have had over a hundred men, and they're perfectly normal. 

 

That is not a lot, it's just our fake puritanical upbringing that makes us think so. 

You're delusional. The average woman in the world has <deleted> 5-7 men. Thinking even 20 is low milage is so hilariously wrong that I'm curious to where you came up with these numbers?

1 hour ago, captain_shane said:

You're delusional. The average woman in the world has <deleted> 5-7 men. Thinking even 20 is low milage is so hilariously wrong that I'm curious to where you came up with these numbers?

Self delusion is a powerful thing. Hey, whatever helps you get through the day. 

More tosh. Must be a slow day for some.🙃🙃

11 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Self delusion is a powerful thing. Hey, whatever helps you get through the day. 

 

I remember living in an apartment complex back home and a bunch of girls were meeting up every Friday night to go out clubbing. 

That's 52 weekends a year. 

Were they actually sleeping with guys every weekend? Could be ... or maybe not necessarily. Maybe they also enjoyed the flirtation and cock-teasing and messing with guys.

But not hard to imagine their body counts were way higher than 5-7 by the time they hit 30 and maybe decided to get married.

Question is what percentage of western girls are doing this ... I dunno. 

 

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

 

I remember living in an apartment complex back home and a bunch of girls were meeting up every Friday night to go out clubbing. 

That's 52 weekends a year. 

Were they actually sleeping with guys every weekend? Could be ... or maybe not necessarily. Maybe they also enjoyed the flirtation and cock-teasing and messing with guys.

But not hard to imagine their body counts were way higher than 5-7 by the time they hit 30 and maybe decided to get married.

Question is what percentage of western girls are doing this ... I dunno. 

 

Exactly. And many people tell me 15 year olds in school are having sex with multiple classmates, so certainly when they get married 15 years later their husbands are completely unaware of that. I think there's a need on the part of many men to simply delude themselves into thinking that their wives are pure. Some of us take a more mature approach and do not consider a woman with sexual experience to be a poor choice for a wife. I rather like the idea, up to an extent. I want experience. And I do try to apply the same standard to women that I apply to myself, and since I've been around the block quite a few times I'm not going to expect that lack of experience from my woman. 

 

I've spoken to many women in America who freely admit that for several years they were doing at least one or two guys a week, so run the numbers. I've also known a number of Thai civilians women here, that are very casual about sex. 

 

Who knows what the average is and who cares? 

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Exactly. And many people tell me 15 year olds in school are having sex with multiple classmates, so certainly when they get married 15 years later their husbands are completely unaware of that. I think there's a need on the part of many men to simply delude themselves into thinking that their wives are pure. Some of us take a more mature approach and do not consider a woman with sexual experience to be a poor choice for a wife. I rather like the idea, up to an extent. I want experience. And I do try to apply the same standard to women that I apply to myself, and since I've been around the block quite a few times I'm not going to expect that lack of experience from my woman. 

 

I've spoken to many women in America who freely admit that for several years they were doing at least one or two guys a week, so run the numbers. I've also known a number of Thai civilians women here, that are very casual about sex. 

 

Who knows what the average is and who cares? 

Most women don't go out clubbing every weekend. Just because you hangout with sluts doesn't mean they all are. Literally every single study on this topic proves you wrong.

7 minutes ago, captain_shane said:

Most women don't go out clubbing every weekend. Just because you hangout with sluts doesn't mean they all are. Literally every single study on this topic proves you wrong.

It says a lot about how you feel about women in general that you would refer to a woman who's a bit promiscuous as a slut. Were you ever promiscuous during your lifetime, and if so do you consider yourself a whore? 

38 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It says a lot about how you feel about women in general that you would refer to a woman who's a bit promiscuous as a slut. Were you ever promiscuous during your lifetime, and if so do you consider yourself a whore? 

Lol. It says a lot about YOU when you think 20-200 is a low body count.

On 7/11/2025 at 12:37 AM, SoCal1990 said:

It’s something I’ve heard said more than a few times, that women who spend enough time working in Thailand’s nightlife scene can never really go back to seeing male–female relationships in the same humanistic way again.

 

After a certain point, some say they stop viewing men as people and start seeing them purely as wallets. Acts of genuine care or generosity expressed by a man aren’t seen as kindness anymore, but as obligations, or even just opportunities to extract more from a man. Manipulation becomes a skill, and emotional connection starts to feel irrelevant.

 

There’s also the idea that after being with a large number of men, purely as a business transaction, that something shifts in them mentally. That it changes how they view sex, intimacy, and even themselves. That the line between affection and performance blurs so much, they eventually lose track of what’s real and can never recover from having turned into some form of emotionally damaged goods. 

 

Maybe it’s just an undeserved stereotype used to shame women in the industry, or maybe there’s an uncomfortable truth buried within there. But is it even fair to blame them? Or is it just a consequence of doing what they had to do to survive in a system that rewards them for being that way?

Perfectly said!