8 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

As an American I can truly say that the average American is a fairly scary type of individual, and not something to be particularly proud of. Most are not deep thinkers, nor readers, nor indenepdent minds. 

 

Personally, most Americans, I have ever met have been a pleasure to talk to, or be around with, very friendly and polite, same as for Aussies, but unlike Brits, with the Kiwis somewhere in between...

No opinion about Canadians, as I haven't known too many. (Mind you, I am talking overseas Americans here, as, unlike the others, I have never met them on home soil.)

The talk on here is predictably leftie-this and leftie-that when the primary legal opposition to President Trump's tariff agenda is coming from the right:

 

Businesses, conservative lawyers planning legal challenge to Trump's tariffs

 

April 7, 2025 -- A group of business groups and conservative lawyers are preparing a legal challenge to President Donald Trump's tariffs, arguing he does not have the legal authority to impose them.

 

Another conservative lawyer familiar with the expected legal challenge to Trump's tariffs predicted the Supreme Court would rule 9-0 against the administration if it reaches the high court.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/businesses-conservative-lawyers-planning-legal-challenge-trumps-tariffs/story?id=120558257

 

NB oral arguments to Team-Trump's Appeal to the lower trade court ruling against Team Trump this week.

A country with 350 million people will always buy more than a country with 70 million. There is no way to balance the trade. 

2 minutes ago, StayinThailand2much said:

 

Personally, any American, I have ever met has been a pleasure to talk to, or be around with, same as for Aussies, but unlike Brits, with the Kiwis somewhere in between... (No opinion about Canadians, as I haven't known too many.)

I too have met a lot of Americans that are exceptional, amazing, and wonderful, but I do consider the majority to be fairly dull, and highly uninformed. 

12 hours ago, theblether said:

 

You can ask yourself next time you want to buy some import goods in Thailand why it is so expensive 😉

 

So this means Americans needs to produce everything you want for an equal price. And who is going to work in your factories when you sending the whole working class out who is willing to work for minimum wages with <deleted> health insurances 

 

It also means you American products getting equally more expensive in Europe.

 

American governments have done this several times and failed.

 

Learned about the big depression? 

@StayinThailand2much No one is scared. They just look at their options and decide the best path to take...at that moment. As your teacher would tell you, it's not so much what you say, but what you do.

 

Trumps previous 'trade deal' with China, came to nothing. He blamed Biden for that. We'll likely see it all happen again. Things will be said for expediency, but negotiations and caveats will be ongoing.

3 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Number 1 selling beer in the USA:

 

 

https://www.gearpatrol.com/drinks/modelo-bestselling-beer

Have you forgotten why?

 

 

I cannot even think of the last time that I bought an American product... 

Can anyone here, who is not from the USA?

I do have an iPhone...which was likely made in China.

3 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

I cannot even think of the last time that I bought an American product... 

Can anyone here, who is not from the USA?

I do have an iPhone...which was likely made in China.

 

Budweiser, but not Light. And Quaker Oats. (Mostly food and beverages here in SE Asia.) And, of course, by far most TV shows and movies I watch are Made in U.S.A.

34 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Wow. Amazing what Trump has achieved in so little time.

 

Even more amazing that you see all those non-existing deals.

 

35 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

t normally takes decades to get a deal with the EU, he's done it in months.

 

There is no trade deal with the EU yet. A framework was set up to work out a deal.

It's all over the internet, probably not on X and Fox though

7 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Have you forgotten why?

Not a drinker myself but there are plenty of other American beers without importing from Mexico.

@StayinThailand2much 👍

I have nothing against the success of anyone who presents and sells a good product.

 

2 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Not a drinker myself but there are plenty of other American beers without importing from Mexico.

Exactly.   And as @BritManToo stated, the average American won’t care about the prices of French wine.   It was never on most peoples radar in the first place.

 

Oh….and BTW…..guess who owns Modelo.

Still cannot over the fact that Maga still not understand tariffs. 

7 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Oh….and BTW…..guess who owns Modelo.

Anheuser-Busch InBev SA/NV, known as AB InBev, is an American-Belgian multinational drink and brewing company based in Leuven, Belgium

13 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

I cannot even think of the last time that I bought an American product... 

Can anyone here, who is not from the USA?

I do have an iPhone...which was likely made in China.

Never 

Honest question: I assume the real advantage would come if Trump makes it so US companies get a better deal in trading with the EU. All I keep hearing is there is a 15 per cent tariff on EU goods into the US which is not necessarily a good thing except for those in US industries that compete with those goods in the domestic market. Did he in fact get a better deal for US exporters too. 

He states that US companies can import freely into the EU..... I doubt it.

First there is no deal, the ginger clown simply announced 15% import taxes, it is his move. Europ didn't step in his game, just promising wind some investments and import volumes.

What the genius doesn't understand, neither his blindly following fans is that he is triggering inflation and affects the purchasing power. The Fed will increase the rates and there we go hill downwards to hell.

 

Wouldn't like to live in the US for the next ginger years

2 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

He states that US companies can import freely into the EU..... I doubt it.

 

I think there is a difference between freely and for free.

 

Like some have gone to school for free, and others for nothing

90 deals in 90 days?  Do they have a real deal or is this yet another "concept" of a deal.

  

The Japan deal is also apparently not yet a deal but a concept and much  of the investment in america is japan buying 20 expensive boeing jets....they need airplanes and they basically have a choice airbus or boeing.  So make trump happy and pick boeing if that is what it takes to make him think he won bigly.

 

The U.S. and the European Union have reached a framework trade agreement, announced on Sunday, July 27, 2025, just before a deadline that would have seen higher tariffs imposed. 

 

So how many real legally binding deals are there now?  And if you sign a legally binding deal with Trump does that mean if he has a temper tantrum he will say screw legally binding and redo it all.  

 

Three days til next big "no more extensions" deadlines.  That is a lot of deals to be signed in 3 days.  More extensions coming soon?  This crap has been going on since he took office so excuse me if I don't necessarily believe everything Trump and his minions promise.

 

 

11 minutes ago, SMIAI said:

I cannot even think of the last time that I bought an American product... 

Can anyone here, who is not from the USA?

I do have an iPhone...which was likely made in China.

Actually, that's the main reason for the trade deficit. Europeans buy a lot of American brands, but they are not made in the U.S.. This is because American firms made the decision to outsource production, mainly in Asia and Mexico. It's not due to bad will from Europeans. Of course, if American firms hadn't made this decision, they probably wouldn't export much more to Europe because their products would be too expensive. 

 

One of the reasons why the EU is still exporting, is that European firms outsourced a significant share of production in Eastern European countries, so it's still counted as EU production and exports.

7 hours ago, Wingate said:

They're rising even faster now. Beef is up 31% in price the last three months.

Don't know what you're talking about about. Gas and eggs are cheaper than with biden

@hotsun Man cannot live on eggs alone...

17 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

Anheuser-Busch InBev SA/NV, known as AB InBev, is an American-Belgian multinational drink and brewing company based in Leuven, Belgium

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation_Brands#:~:text=The company has more than,%2C Negra Modelo%2C and Pacífico.

3 minutes ago, Airalee said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation_Brands#:~:text=The company has more than,%2C Negra Modelo%2C and Pacífico.

 

So Anheuser-Busch owns modelo, and Constellation has the rights to produce the brand for the US market.

 

Something completely different from owning Modelo, but Trump would also make such claims

6 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Don't know what you're talking about about. Gas and eggs are cheaper than with biden

Right about gas. But ecause of SA then Opec deciding last year (summer! to increase production in order to regain market shares. Nothing to do with Trump.

 

Wrong about eggs. Eggs are at around the same price as when Trump and Vance made their campaign show about it last year.

https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eggs-us

 

Meat has never been as expensive as now.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000703112

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Wow. Amazing what Trump has achieved in so little time. It normally takes decades to get a deal with the EU, he's done it in months.

 

Great to see Britain with a better deal than the EU as well. Yet another benefit of Brexit.  

 

 

Another? 🤣

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Great to see Britain with a better deal than the EU as well. Yet another benefit of Brexit.  

 

It is absolutely astounding, given the size of the EU market that the EU negotiators were not able to negotiate a better deal than British negotiators.

 

EU negotiatiors must be the worst in the world.

13 hours ago, theblether said:

 

Strange. She didn't really answer the question.