Chronic disease in old age

[3NUMBAS]

 

New research may have found the secret to delaying chronic illness in old age

 

 

Imagine two people in their 70s. Both are active, live independently and enjoy life. But over the next 15 years, one of them develops two or three chronic illnesses – heart disease, diabetes, depression – while the other remains relatively healthy. What made the difference?

According to our new research, diet may be a key part of the answer.

In our new study, our group at the Aging Research Center at the Karolinska Institutet, Sweden, followed more than 2,400 older Swedish adults for 15 years.

 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/diet-chronic-illness-depression-diabetes-heart-b2798187.html#

 

 

 

 

[BritManToo]

Too late!

[scubascuba3]

Problem is people have known junk foods have been bad for them for decades but they still stuff their faces, lack of self control

[KhunLA]

If this isn't common sense to you, then doc's & big pharma are going to love you ...

 

Sugars

Saturated fats

Junk food, all versions

Sorry folks ... ALCOHOL

 

 

[blaze master]

New research saying diet is quite key to good health. 

 

This is a wind up right ?

[HappyExpat57]

2 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

 

New research may have found the secret to delaying chronic illness in old age

 

 

Imagine two people in their 70s. Both are active, live independently and enjoy life. But over the next 15 years, one of them develops two or three chronic illnesses – heart disease, diabetes, depression – while the other remains relatively healthy. What made the difference?

According to our new research, diet may be a key part of the answer.

In our new study, our group at the Aging Research Center at the Karolinska Institutet, Sweden, followed more than 2,400 older Swedish adults for 15 years.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/diet-chronic-illness-depression-diabetes-heart-b2798187.html#

 

 

You must have a troll following you. No need to throw shade on this post.

[Celsius]

200 years ago people ate all organic and only lived until 35

[jvs]

3 minutes ago, Celsius said:

200 years ago people ate all organic and only lived until 35

That is true in itself but there are many other reasons too,only eating organic does not guarantee a long life.

Up to 1840 it was even 30 years but also many people lived a much longer life,on average you are right .

 

[save the frogs]

13 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/diet-chronic-illness-depression-diabetes-heart-b2798187.html#

 

What a lazy OP .... just posting a link. What do you recommend people eat then? 

 

So the article recommends nuts ... problem with nuts is they contain polyunsaturated fats which can go rancid very quickly. So probably a lot of the nuts we consume are rancid. 

 

[MarkBR]

15 minutes ago, Celsius said:

200 years ago people ate all organic and only lived until 35

Life was a lot more stressful for the majority of people then, especially with no modern medicine & vaccines.  Disease killed huge proportion of the population compared to the current day.  And not forgetting war.

[MarkBR]

30 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

What a lazy OP .... just posting a link. What do you recommend people eat then? 

 

So the article recommends nuts ... problem with nuts is they contain polyunsaturated fats which can go rancid very quickly. So probably a lot of the nuts we consume are rancid. 

 

Indeed, hence the great innovation (1 example) in rice processing that prevented rice from going rancid & getting colonised by fungi such as Aspergillus sp. , specifically A. flavus.  This produces aflatotoxins which are one of the most potent natural triggers of liver cancer.  But the same problem exists for most stored seeds (Never ever eat fungus infected seeds).

The original scientific article seems very good.  Given sufficient base level knowledge, I would recommend reading it.  Otherwise, just read the article provided.

Key point avoid ultra-processed ( junk food) to the degree possible.  Eat fish, veggies, & fruit as much as you want.  Eat a balanced diet to the degree possible.  Increase nutrient content of a balanced diet.

This all aligns with previous information on the value of the Mediterrean diet, adding more analytical evidence to its efficacy.

NB: my stats knowledge is not good enough to evaluate how good their stats are. This might, if they got their stats wrong, invalidate their conclusions.

[proton]

Red wine, beer, tramadol and no meat is my recommendation 😆

[angryguy]

45 minutes ago, Celsius said:

200 years ago people ate all organic and only lived until 35

LOL youre alright with me

[Bday Prang]

52 minutes ago, Celsius said:

200 years ago people ate all organic and only lived until 35

penicillin has made a big difference

[Bday Prang]

Sugar is a major contributor, should be banned

[Bday Prang]

56 minutes ago, Celsius said:

200 years ago people ate all organic and only lived until 35

still like that in Scotland 

[Bday Prang]

Advances in medical practice / technology will keep  you alive longer but it only delays the inevitable.

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Advances in medical practice / technology will keep  you alive longer but it only delays the inevitable.

According to actuarial tables unlimited money spent on medical on average adds 1 year to life expectancy.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/TR/2011/lr5a4.html

[MarkBR]

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

Sugar is a major contributor, should be banned

Types of sugars are important to consider - sucrose vs fructose vs nonsugar alternatives. More evidence is accumulatingt hat nosugar sweeteners are not all good.  Example, erythritol has recently been shown to have not good effects on the blood-brain barrier of mice (mammals) , research needs to be done on humans (mammals) to see whether these bad effects affect people.

Fructose is bad in excessive amounts (although, other components of fruit are good e.g vitamins, micro-nutrients, minerals, fibre), our bodies are not adapted to dealing with high levels of fructose in the diet unlike monkeys & bears..

So yet again, balanced eating is important for health

[Bday Prang]

3 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

Imagine two people in their 70s. Both are active, live independently and enjoy life. But over the next 15 years, one of them develops two or three chronic illnesses – heart disease, diabetes, depression – while the other remains relatively healthy. What made the difference?

in their 70's already?  so cannot complain another 15  years would put them in their 90's   bit of daft thread really

[Bday Prang]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

According to actuarial tables unlimited money spent on medical on average adds 1 year to life expectancy.

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/TR/2011/lr5a4.html

i can well believe it 

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, Celsius said:

200 years ago people ate all organic and only lived until 35

Well, the majority didn’t have clean water, or know how to make sure clean water filtration, and they had worms, pests and infections to fight, and there where no cure like we have today where most serious viruses can be prevented by vaccines and bacteria infections with antibiotics. 

 

There is some common sense but also good genes can help you as well. 

[bkk6060]

Smoking and alcohol and sedentary life are the worst by far.  People don't realize eating poorly is just another addiction.  Eating garbage food just makes a person crave more of it.

[Bannoi]

I remember watching a woman on TV on her 104th birthday she was asked what her secret was she replied fish and chips twice a week and a whisky every night before bed.

 

I would say. its mostly down to genes and there comes a time when you ask yourself the old quantity vs quality question.

[Bday Prang]

6 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

I would say. its mostly down to genes

without doubt

[novacova]

4 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

What made the difference?

According to our new research, diet may be a key part of the answer.

& staying away from tobacco alcohol and drugs. Genetics is a major factor, while one may be able to smoke and drink until their mid eighties, the other may drop dead at fifty with the same lifestyle.

[Hummin]

24 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

I remember watching a woman on TV on her 104th birthday she was asked what her secret was she replied fish and chips twice a week and a whisky every night before bed.

 

I would say. its mostly down to genes and there comes a time when you ask yourself the old quantity vs quality question.

If you have no good genes, then try to live healthy can be a good thing 

[swissie]

Old age in itself is a Chronic Desease.

[JimGant]

13 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Advances in medical practice / technology will keep  you alive longer but it only delays the inevitable

Yeah, we now can live longer -- letting us reach the stage where we can only babble and drool.

 

Every time this subject comes up, I recall the ditty:

 

Eat healthy

Exercise regularly

Die anyway

[gamb00ler]

15 hours ago, KhunLA said:

If this isn't common sense to you, then doc's & big pharma are going to love you ...

 

Sugars

Saturated fats

Junk food, all versions

Sorry folks ... ALCOHOL

 

 

That's my most trusted YTube nutrition and diet channel.  I highly recommend his channel.  He gives excellent interpretation of  dozens of studies by pointing out their strengths and weaknesses.  His reviews of the "hot" YTube nutrition influencers are polite but to the point.