19 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

I have to wonder if this is so important why didn't these senators demand this back when Biden was president?  

2024: Trump asked about Epstein on the campaign trail

 

In September 2024, Trump made a more firm pledge to release Epstein files during a podcast with Lex Fridman.

 

Fridman, in conversation with Trump, said "it's just very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public."

 

"It's very interesting, isn't it? It probably will be, by the way, probably," Trump said.

 

"If you're able to, you'll be --" Fridman started before Trump jumped in.

 

"Yeah, I'd certainly take a look at it. Now, Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years ago," Trump said. "They do that for danger too, because it endangers certain people, et cetera, et cetera, so Kennedy is very different from the Epstein thing but I'd be inclined to do the Epstein. I'd have no problem with it."

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-jeffrey-epstein-years-including-2024-campaign-trail/story?id=123778541

 

-- and a whole bunch on the right said: WOW if Trump is elected, we will get to know EVERYTHING!

69% of Americans think the government is hiding something about Jeffrey Epstein

The other 31% know the government is hiding something

15 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Just out of curiosity, what are some conspiracy theories that you don't believe in?

That would be a  very short post! 🤣

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

2024: Trump asked about Epstein on the campaign trail

 

In September 2024, Trump made a more firm pledge to release Epstein files during a podcast with Lex Fridman.

 

Fridman, in conversation with Trump, said "it's just very strange for a lot of people that the list of clients that went to the island has not been made public."

 

"It's very interesting, isn't it? It probably will be, by the way, probably," Trump said.

 

"If you're able to, you'll be --" Fridman started before Trump jumped in.

 

"Yeah, I'd certainly take a look at it. Now, Kennedy's interesting because it's so many years ago," Trump said. "They do that for danger too, because it endangers certain people, et cetera, et cetera, so Kennedy is very different from the Epstein thing but I'd be inclined to do the Epstein. I'd have no problem with it."

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-jeffrey-epstein-years-including-2024-campaign-trail/story?id=123778541

 

-- and a whole bunch on the right said: WOW if Trump is elected, we will get to know EVERYTHING!

 

Still begs the question.  If this is so important to these DEM senators why didn't they demand it when Biden was president?  

19 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

 

Still begs the question.  If this is so important to these DEM senators why didn't they demand it when Biden was president?  

 

Good point.

 

A weak defence offered was that their focus was elsewhere....or could it be that they knew many senior Dems would be implicated and were told to <deleted>........but if that were the case why shout now???

 

Regardless of taking sides and pointing fingers it seems that, as a matter of principle, the truth......whatever the consequences......should come out.

21 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

85 per cent of right wingers on this site are saying don't worry because Obama 

The other 15 per cent say "But Hillary!"

 

The FBI, she said, was reviewing “tens of thousands of videos” of the wealthy financier “with children or child porn.”

 

https://apnews.com/article/justice-department-jeffrey-epstein-pam-bondi-trump-fa39193d5b5ff91970428bf077a5ce44

 

Most likely...

69% of Americans think 

 

Aw come-on. Pull the other one.

 

69% of Americans may react.🤔

1 minute ago, VocalNeal said:

69% of Americans think 

 

Aw come-on. Pull the other one.

 

69% of Americans may react.🤔

 

 

Oh I see.....they can't think.....subtle...555

22 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

I wonder what the other 31% are thinking... "Nothing to see here! Governments are the most honest people ever and would never lie or hide anything from us"?

Especially the current government!  IMHO the problem is that the "list" contains both party's  big names!  so neither side wants to throw their leaders under the bus!

 

8 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Oh I see.....they can't think.....subtle...555

 

Any example of when they do. 555

1 minute ago, VocalNeal said:

 

Any example of when they do. 555

 

Looks like a job for AI....sorry A1

30 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

Still begs the question.  If this is so important to these DEM senators why didn't they demand it when Biden was president?  

The whole reason this is now forefront in the public psyche is that the hard right has been saying years there is something there; Trump said pre-election he would expose the there there; and then the admin says said there isn't any there there. 

20 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Yeah, right. Nothing to see here, move along!🤣

 

 

More denials. more deflections from the MAGA mob. What are they and Trump so worried about?

 

If there is no reason not to release ALL the unredacted files, then release them.

 

Of course the files may, or may not, show up the lies and cover ups, but that is one of the problems with telling lies.

 

There is probably more than one copy floating around anyway.

 

The more that Bondi and Trump deny and delay the more guilty they both look.

3 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

The whole reason this is now forefront in the public psyche is that the hard right has been saying years there is something there; Trump said pre-election he would expose the there there; and then the admin says said there isn't any there there. 

 

I think Trump was more than happy to shout about it initially....."I'm must be innocent, or I wouldn't be making all this fuss".......fully expecting the whole issue to die, or that he could kill it once in office.....whoops.

39 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

Still begs the question.  If this is so important to these DEM senators why didn't they demand it when Biden was president?  

The Epstein list was a key component of MAGA propaganda to smear the Dems, who were accused of hiding this list. The Dems considered it as such, like the other MAGA conspiracy theories.

 

Now they are smelling blood, and are taking advantage of it In order to give Trump and his aides a taste of their own medecine!. That's 'fair' politics, so to say! 😆

23 hours ago, BLMFem said:

My, my. A rare case of bipartisanship in the age of polarization. Well done, Donald. This has to be a win, right?

 

So where were they when it was Biden's and Obama's DOJ hiding the evidence?

 

 

13 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Weak man, strong troller

Have you been on another "holiday", buddy?

13 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

So where were they when it was Biden's and Obama's DOJ hiding the evidence?

 

 

 

 

Exactly....protecting all the senior Dems....absolutely disgusting tactics......best thing?....let's get all the evidence out in the open and stick it to those Dems.

9 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

Good point.

 

A weak defence offered was that their focus was elsewhere....or could it be that they knew many senior Dems would be implicated and were told to STFU........but if that were the case why shout now???

 

Regardless of taking sides and pointing fingers it seems that, as a matter of principle, the truth......whatever the consequences......should come out.

 

Truth in my opinion is that during the campaign Trump was using it to make the DEMs look guilty.  Now that he is in office the DEMs are using it to make him look guilty.  And I don't think there IS a list and both sides know it.  Both sides are hypocrites.  And Trump thought he could kill it quickly.  It will go away and the left will find as new "scandal" to moan about.  

 

 

 

47 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

Truth in my opinion is that during the campaign Trump was using it to make the DEMs look guilty.  Now that he is in office the DEMs are using it to make him look guilty.  And I don't think there IS a list and both sides know it.  Both sides are hypocrites.  And Trump thought he could kill it quickly.  It will go away and the left will find as new "scandal" to moan about.  

 

 

 

Correction. After he was in office, it's MAGAs who started to claim that their own administration was doing a cover up. They have been so deeply brainwashed into believing deep state conspiracy theories over time (pizzagate, birther, big lie, etc...), that some of them now cannot believe anything else!

 

Of course, the Dems couldn't miss this opportunity to have Trump and MAGAs bitten in the ass by their own lies! And this opportunity was served on a silver trail by MAGAs!

 

Personally, I never believed there was a client list, at least not as it was touted by MAGAs. However, I really enjoy watching Trump having a taste of his own medecine! 😆

On 8/1/2025 at 2:28 AM, BLMFem said:

Yeah, right. Nothing to see here, move along!🤣

 

 

Screwed ?  Over what?  He already in the White House as POTUS.

And in your head 24/7

 

He’s not on “that” list.

 

You’re liberal idols are on that list.

This Epstein list fiasco will fade away once lunatics on the left figure out what their next “protest of the week “ is.

 

But for now, it’s still Epstein.

Worth repeating.

 

 

 

5 hours ago, candide said:

Correction. After he was in office, it's MAGAs who started to claim that their own administration was doing a cover up. They have been so deeply brainwashed into believing deep state conspiracy theories over time (pizzagate, birther, big lie, etc...), that some of them now cannot believe anything else!

 

Of course, the Dems couldn't miss this opportunity to have Trump and MAGAs bitten in the ass by their own lies! And this opportunity was served on a silver trail by MAGAs!

 

Personally, I never believed there was a client list, at least not as it was touted by MAGAs. However, I really enjoy watching Trump having a taste of his own medecine! 😆

 

Well yeah a bit of backlash from his hard core supporters over this.  But they won't turn on him.  Now it's the left and DEM Senators taking up the chant. 

 

Most of Trumps voters, like myself, never cared about Epstein.  To be honest I never noticed Trump making that big of a fuss.  Yeah I'm sure I read it at one point but that isn't what decides my voting decision.  Then again I am not a 24/7 political maniac.  

19 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The other 15 per cent say "But Hillary!"

3 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

 

Well yeah a bit of backlash from his hard core supporters over this.  But they won't turn on him.  Now it's the left and DEM Senators taking up the chant. 

 

Most of Trumps voters, like myself, never cared about Epstein.  To be honest I never noticed Trump making that big of a fuss.  Yeah I'm sure I read it at one point but that isn't what decides my voting decision.  Then again I am not a 24/7 political maniac.  

 

But you WOULD like to see justice done to people who rape children, yes?

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm an equal opportunity hater - I wanted Hillary to burn over that email kerfuffle.

4 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

But you WOULD like to see justice done to people who rape children, yes?

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm an equal opportunity hater - I wanted Hillary to burn over that email kerfuffle.

 

Yes.  That isn't up for question.  At this point I am skeptical that there is a smoking gun leading to punishment for anyone that raped children.

11 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

 

Truth in my opinion is that during the campaign Trump was using it to make the DEMs look guilty.  Now that he is in office the DEMs are using it to make him look guilty.  And I don't think there IS a list and both sides know it.  Both sides are hypocrites.  And Trump thought he could kill it quickly.  It will go away and the left will find as new "scandal" to moan about.  

 

 

 

 

Agree....though not a list as such....but still a treasure trove of evidence neither of the higher ups on which ever 'side' wants releasing

""Democrats, meanwhile, have seized on the discord with their own newfound calls for transparency related to Epstein's case – prompting accusations of hypocrisy from the right.

"Democrats have now seized on this as if they ever wanted transparency when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, which is an asinine suggestion for any Democrat to make. The Democrats had control of this building, the White House, for four years, and they didn't do a dang thing when it came to transparency in regards to Jeffrey Epstein and his heinous crimes," White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said last month.

"It was this president who directed the Department of Justice and the attorney general to do an exhaustive review of all files related to Jeffrey Epstein, which they did.""

 

 

On 8/2/2025 at 8:52 PM, HappyExpat57 said:

 

But you WOULD like to see justice done to people who rape children, yes?

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm an equal opportunity hater - I wanted Hillary to burn over that email kerfuffle.

It was done.   The only evidence of trafficking was between Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.   One is dead and one is in jail.