4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It wasn’t a deflection, it was pointing out a deflection.

 

Read the OP, inwardly digest an awareness of the part of the world it’s referring to and then try to keep up.

 

Answer the question. 

2 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

This is often the excuse used by the right-wing: "He hit me first!" "It's okay for our Republican-majority state to gerrymander because the Democrats gerrymandered in their states." If hitting and gerrymandering are wrong, you shouldn't ever do it.

If it's wrong for Saudi Arabia or any Muslim country to ban Catholic churches, then it's wrong for a predominantly Christian country to ban Muslim temples or events. 

I'm not a supporter of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, or any religion or their activities. I would not oppose a ban on ALL of them. But what I do not support is singling one or two out and banning them, but not the others. That's discrimination and is definitely not in accordance with DEI, which I consider the best approach to eliminating, or at least reducing, discrimination. 

 

You want all banned but want to also reduce discrimination.

 

Derp derp.

10 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Answer the question. 

No thank you.

 

It’s got absolutely nothing to do with the topic of discussion 

 

Ask the forum management to start a thread on churches in Saudis Arabia if that’s what you want to discuss.

48 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

Ban all religions

Well no, just the ones that still kill for there's....🥴

2 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

You want all banned but want to also reduce discrimination.

 

Derp derp.

"Discrimination is the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories. Yes, if you only ban one or two religions, that's discrimination. If you ban ALL religions, then that is not discrimination. Just as if you prohibit women from voting, that is discrimination. If you prohibit ALL people from voting, that's not discrimination.

You have to think more deeply about this before you accuse anyone of "derp."  I suggest you Google "DEI" and read several articles about that. 

Good.

22 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Abolish all religions. It's discriminatory to ban just one. 

 

Not in a Christian country. Try doing it in Jeddah or Gaza with Christian festivals.

23 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No thank you.

 

It’s got absolutely nothing to do with the topic of discussion 

 

Ask the forum management to start a thread on churches in Saudis Arabia if that’s what you want to discuss.

 

Wrong. The question is absolutely relevant. Your own inability to see the correlation is just you being typically disingenuous.

23 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

"Discrimination is the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories. Yes, if you only ban one or two religions, that's discrimination. If you ban ALL religions, then that is not discrimination. Just as if you prohibit women from voting, that is discrimination. If you prohibit ALL people from voting, that's not discrimination.

You have to think more deeply about this before you accuse anyone of "derp."  I suggest you Google "DEI" and read several articles about that. 

 

You'll never understand why you're wrong so ill leave you be to your Socialism.

 

Go sell another book. 

 

1 hour ago, alex8912 said:

How many Catholic Churches are there in Saudi Arabia? Zero. Not allowed. 

Exactly. Many years ago a 'far right' politician in Australia wanted a ban on all Muslim churches. When he was attacked, and he was severely attacked, his reply was that he would immediately lift the ban if every Muslim country, especially the Arab ones, allowed Christian churches (and other religions) to be built in their countries.  The absolute hypocrisy of the woke progressives has no basis in reality or reason - they will always open the doors and let more 'greeks bearing gifts' enter - despite the lessons of history, which they are constantly seeking to re-write.    

1 hour ago, alex8912 said:

How many Catholic Churches are there in Saudi Arabia? Zero. Not allowed. 

 

   Western Countries are tolerant .

Muslim Countries are intolerant .

Should Western Countries be the same as Muslims Countries ?

 

23 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Western Countries are tolerant .

Muslim Countries are intolerant .

Should Western Countries be the same as Muslims Countries ?

 

If it becomes to the detriment of their own citizens, maybe some deep thought about the consequences down the line, should be of considerate importance to discuss and act on.

28 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Wrong. The question is absolutely relevant. Your own inability to see the correlation is just you being typically disingenuous.

Unless the administration of Jumilla have jurisdiction over what places of religion are permitted in Saudi Arabia it has absolutely no relevance to the topic of discussion.

 

Come to think of it, I wonder if the place name ‘ Jumilla‘ is Arabic origin?

 

 

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Unless the administration of Jumilla have jurisdiction over what places of religion are permitted in Saudi Arabia it has absolutely no relevance to the topic of discussion.

 

Come to think of it, I wonder if the place name ‘ Jumilla‘ is Arabic origin?

 

 

 

Go be obtuse then. 

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Come to think of it, I wonder if the place name ‘ Jumilla‘ is Arabic origin?

 

Obviously not. The name clearly is Latin. In arabic it would be "Gumalla".

 

 

No shock, Muslims have been praying in public places and on roads all over Europe and US making a nuisance of themselves and using praying as a sign of dominance. It's about time something was done about it.

Obviously we don't want a situation like in Kuala Lumpur where you can't sleep because of some muezzin calling you without mercy to praise Allah.

 

However, to ban muslims from celebrating in public places seems narrow minded and self-centred. 

 

Maybe a happy medium can be found?

 

The Catholics get 3 Kings in January and the Muslims get Christmas in December?

Slippery slope. Jews will be next.

4 hours ago, WDSmart said:

This is often the excuse used by the right-wing: "He hit me first!" "It's okay for our Republican-majority state to gerrymander because the Democrats gerrymandered in their states." If hitting and gerrymandering are wrong, you shouldn't ever do it.

If it's wrong for Saudi Arabia or any Muslim country to ban Catholic churches, then it's wrong for a predominantly Christian country to ban Muslim temples or events. 

I'm not a supporter of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, or any religion or their activities. I would not oppose a ban on ALL of them. But what I do not support is singling one or two out and banning them, but not the others. That's discrimination and is definitely not in accordance with DEI, which I consider the best approach to eliminating, or at least reducing, discrimination. 

This is the typical kind of reasoning of the left. It boils down to the fact that one must be tolerant and treat everyone equally. What these people fail to understand is that Muslims are not tolerant and have always been, are, and will always be in conquest mode. It's simply written in their centuries-old road map. Those who deny this and promote and encourage so-called integration in the name of their supposedly progressive thinking are initiating the downfall of our society. This is typical of left-wing think tanks worldwide. Kudos to this Spanish town.

4 minutes ago, vangrop said:

What these people fail to understand is that Muslims are not tolerant and have always been, are, and will always be in conquest mode.

 

That's just nonsense. In Palestine the Muslims were tolerant of Jewish immigration to a fault. And look what it got them.

 

Indonesia is also incredibly tolerant of Hinduism, Christianity and even Judaism.

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

That's just nonsense. In Palestine the Muslims were tolerant of Jewish immigration to a fault. And look what it got them.

 

Indonesia is also incredibly tolerant of Hinduism, Christianity and even Judaism.

Which Palestina, it still doesn't exist. if you are talking about gaza it is in the hands of hamas and I doubt they are very tolerant with the Jewish. You mention Indonesia, you probly forgot the murdering in Bali

1 minute ago, vangrop said:

Which Palestina, it still doesn't exist. if you are talking about gaza it is in the hands of hamas and I doubt they are very tolerant with the Jewish. You mention Indonesia, you probly forgot the murdering in Bali

 

Palestine has existed for a long time, despite Zionist fantasies to the the contrary. In fact Israel only exists because Muslims were so tolerant and allowed Jewish immigration en masse.

 

Indonesia is incredibly tolerant  towards Hindus, Christians and Jews, of course some criminal can do a terrorist attack, like Timothy McVeigh did in Oklahama, but nobody in their right mind would say the US is not tolerant.

14 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Palestine has existed for a long time, despite Zionist fantasies to the the contrary. In fact Israel only exists because Muslims were so tolerant and allowed Jewish immigration en masse

is this a new version of an Hollywood script you are telling.

After WWI Britain took control of Palestine under a League of Nations mandate.

In 1917, the Balfour Declaration expressed British support for "a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine. On May 14 1948, David Ben-Gurion declared the establishment of the state of Israël. The next , the neighbouring (here it comes your muslim tolerancy) Arab states invaded, triggering the 1948 Arab-Israeli War.

5 hours ago, xylophone said:

I'll go along with that!!!!😀

Never trust anyone you could not share a bacon sandwich with. That's the nearest I get to religion

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

This is the kind of crackpot idea people come up with when they don’t know, or deny, the history of their own culture.

 

Jeered on from the cheap seats by the usual suspects.

 

Maybe reading up on the influence of Islam on Spanish culture might help open a few minds, but I doubt it:

 

https://thevalfers.com/spain/al-andalus-heritage/

 

They hate Spain for throwing them out of so called andalus, it was not a golden age it was pogroms, discrimination and the jizya tax for non believers. They see as their greatest defeats against Islamic expansion as the expulsion from Spain, and the invading Ottoman defeat at Vienna in 1683. The twin Towers attack in 2001 was chosen to coincide with that defeat as near as possible. Islam was, and remains the enemy of the west and all other religions.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Palestine has existed for a long time, despite Zionist fantasies to the the contrary. In fact Israel only exists because Muslims were so tolerant and allowed Jewish immigration en masse.

 

Indonesia is incredibly tolerant  towards Hindus, Christians and Jews, of course some criminal can do a terrorist attack, like Timothy McVeigh did in Oklahama, but nobody in their right mind would say the US is not tolerant.

 

There has never been a country called Palestine, and never will be unless they rename somewhere else

Not that I am unsympathetic, nor appreciative of the need to control fanatics and to protect Spanish culture, but the muslim demands can be seen as poetic justice for the nation that  gave us the Spanish Inquisition and centuries of violence and anguish. Don't forget the horrors the Spanish did to the people of the Netherlands,nor the  church backed burning alive of French Protestants. Now the people it once sought to dominate have come to stay. I doubt the native peoples of the Americas are losing sleep over the  Spanish problem. The muslim nations were once a place of sanctuary for people who fled the Inquisition and Muslim Spain was  a center of enlightenment and culture. It was the Spanish state that burnt books, libraries and artwork. And it was not so long ago, Franco's Spain was just as evil as Iran is today.

7 hours ago, Screaming said:

Here’s How Charles ‘the Hammer’ Martel Saved Europe From a Muslim Invasion in 732 AD

https://historycollection.com/heres-charles-hammer-martel-saved-europe-muslim-invasion-732-ad/

 

Christian Europe is still at war with Islam, it never ended. 

On a serious note, there are no true Christians or Muslims left anywhere. The idea that they are at war with each other is too absurd and idiotic for me to even comprehend. I’ll leave that one to you.

7 hours ago, boloaf said:

Not in a Christian country. Try doing it in Jeddah or Gaza with Christian festivals.

 

Hundreds of people were sheltering in the Gaza Strip’s only Catholic church last week when an Israeli strike on the complex killed 3 people and injured 12. Among the injured was the parish priest. 

 

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/07/gaza-church-israel-strike-huckabee-war/

Well done. 

More please.