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‘Putin clearly won’: Pundits say meeting was ‘bad for Americans’

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34 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

The fact that they can't hide is that Putin took Crimea on Obama's watch and Donbass on Biden's.

 

This shows the reality...  It's a lot easier to make a mess than to clean up after someone else has.  This mess belongs to Obama and Biden.  Trump's cleaning it up.

 

 

 

Don't annoy them with facts. 

 

In fact, Obama's reaction to Crimea was so poor that Putin was emboldened to attack Ukraine when Biden was in power. 

 

The smart-*ss would say that Obama should have given the rest of Ukraine a security guarantee. 

 

The realist - and I'm no fan of Obama - knows that the 2010/14 Ukraine political situation was such a hot mess that Obama would have needed to be touched in the head to give a guarantee to that bag of snakes. 

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  • The more Trump attempts to "play" the role as a kingpin the more he makes an ass of himself.  

  • The results were as expected.  Putin continues to make a fool of Trump.

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14 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I cant even read this article because you need to subscribe.

It's titled "How Trump made millions running failed casinos".

If you think you understand how these billionaires are managing their money, you don't because you've never had that kind of money. 

https://www.vox.com/2016/6/12/11909176/trump-atlantic-city-business

 

Years ago, there were several documentary exposés 'splaining how bankruptcy is actually baked into the plans for Casinos and some high end hotel projects.   I always thought it was dodgy.  But then, I don't run in those circles.  Billionaires aren't like the rest of us.

 

2 hours ago, transam said:

You haven't even educated yourself........🤥

You used to work as a taxi driver my file says

I will say - I can't be the only person nervous about Zelensky being in a room with Putin. 

 

Lost in the story about the White House blow up was the blowback Zelensky received from his own delegation for acting the tough guy fool. 

1 hour ago, Screaming said:

Putin Says Ukraine War Would Not Have Started If Trump Were President

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/15/putin-says-ukraine-war-would-not-have-started-if-trump-were-president/

 

And what were the "pundits" saying when old dementia Joe was President? There are millions the world over that are applauding President Trump for his effort in trying to end the war in the Ukraine. Even Hillary has claimed that she will nominate President Trump for the Peace Prize if he is successful in negotiating peace. 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/15/hillary-clinton-says-trump-could-win-nobel-peace-prize-if-he-ends-war-ukraine-i-d-nominate-him/

Err, I think Putin was using what we call flattery. He knows Donald is a simpleton who loves being praised by strongmen.

Like taking candy from a kid.

 

Here's another example:

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday that Chinese President Xi Jinping told him China would not invade Taiwan while Trump is in office.

 

"I will tell you, you know, you have a very similar thing with President Xi of China and Taiwan, but I don't believe there's any way it's going to happen as long as I'm here. We'll see," Trump said during an interview on Fox News' "Special Report."

 

"He told me, 'I will never do it as long as you're president.' President Xi told me that, and I said, 'Well, I appreciate that,' but he also said, 'But I am very patient, and China is very patient.'," Trump said.

 

Trump says Xi told him China will not invade Taiwan while he is US president

 

‘Putin clearly won’: Pundits say meeting was ‘bad for Americans’

 

What a bunch of childish morons.  There is no "Putin Won," or "Trump Won."  

The ideological idiots can't grasp that "HUMANITY WINS" if tension are deescalated between major nuclear powers and a path to mutually beneficial relations can be forged instead of being on the brink of nuclear war because of these juveniles dick-wagging about who is winning or losing.

The "pundits" are worse than petulant 7 year old spoiled brats and should be treated as such! :glare:

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27 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Did you notice Putin, who your fake news msm assured us was dying of cancer and had uncontrollable tremors raced down his plane steps like a teenager. Contrast that to your man Biden, whom we were assured was mentally and physically in tip top shape collapses repeatedly on similar stairs.

When will you guys ever learn to stop relying on silly fake news narratives?


What has anything you’ve said above have to do with my comment? 
 

Did Q tell you all that? 
 

:cheesy:

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3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Another anti Trump thread, based on less than all the others :cheesy:

 

... "Both leaders suggested progress had been made on talks about the future of the war in Ukraine but neither disclosed details during their joint appearance in front of the world’s press where neither took questions from journalists." ... 

 

Don't know what y'all expect, or know what everyone else doesn't know.

 

What I expect, since EU doesn't want the war to end, and convinced Z not to, I expect RU & USA agreeing to remain peaceful, and RU do what it needs to do.   

 

USA will not back NATO silliness in a regional conflict that doesn't involve the EU, nor the USA.  Z has no interest in a ceasefire or peace agreement, so live or die with that choice.

 

RU has been as patient as anyone can expect.  Time to end the silliness.  Boot Z & govt from their dictatorship, and let UA citizens have an election to decide it's future.

 

Given trump mouths off at even a glimmer of success, sometimes even when they are outright lies what do you expect from the media, especially when Trump calls out the media as the "enemy of the people" a typical extremist comment? Respect - LOL. In this case Trump's repeated claims of finalising the Ukraine / Russia conflict within a day of coming to power! Trump is his own worst enemy

1 minute ago, simple1 said:

what do you expect from the media

To report the news, not to create it :coffee1:

25 minutes ago, theblether said:

I will say - I can't be the only person nervous about Zelensky being in a room with Putin. 

 

Lost in the story about the White House blow up was the blowback Zelensky received from his own delegation for acting the tough guy fool. 

 

He got tragically bad advice from the congressional warmongers he sat with before his meeting with Trump and Vance.

 

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Just now, KhunLA said:

To report the news, not to create it :coffee1:

 

Did you miss the headline word "pundits"; It's an opinion piece. No news...Trump obviously failed with his meeting objectives.

Nothing but an orange slime trail leading to Vlads video stash by the look of it impeach the crackpot dictator and Putin 🤔

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32 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Don't annoy them with facts. 

 

In fact, Obama's reaction to Crimea was so poor that Putin was emboldened to attack Ukraine when Biden was in power. 

 

The smart-*ss would say that Obama should have given the rest of Ukraine a security guarantee. 

 

The realist - and I'm no fan of Obama - knows that the 2010/14 Ukraine political situation was such a hot mess that Obama would have needed to be touched in the head to give a guarantee to that bag of snakes. 

That's the narrative Magas like to think is the Truth. Only Magas think so

6 minutes ago, simple1 said:

In this case Trump's repeated claims of finalising the Ukraine / Russia conflict within a day of coming to power! Trump is his own worst enemy

 

Anyone who believed political hyperbole like that in the runup to an election is naive, at best.  I'd actually use a stronger word than naive...

 

Similar to those who actually believed they could vote by text for Hillary.  (For which a guy named Mackey got tossed into prison just for forwarding this obvious joke). 

 

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6 minutes ago, Hummin said:

That's the narrative Magas like to think is the Truth. Only Magas think so

 

Who was in the White House in 2014 when Putin took Crimea?

 

Who was in the White House in 2022 when Putin took Donbass?

 

In both cases, BTW, the local population actually voted to stay with Russia.

 

How many parts of Ukraine did Putin take while Trump 45 was in the White House? 

 

That's not a MAGA truth.  Those are facts.

 

 

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Where are all the MAGA fans this morning telling us all Trump is  " Winning " maybe there Internets crashed. I posted some time ago Trump fails on every Ceasefire he tries to end. This is yet another failure. Zelenski is going to the Whitehouse on Monday where Trump and his Clones will belittle Zelenski again and will blame him for carrying on the war against Russia. Has Trump got the backbone to travel to Kiev or is he to frightened to fly there.

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2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Who was in the White House in 2014 when Putin took Crimea?

 

Who was in the White House in 2022 when Putin took Donbass?

 

In both cases, BTW, the local population actually voted to stay with Russia.

 

How many parts of Ukraine did Putin take while Trump 45 was in the White House? 

 

That's not a MAGA truth.  Those are facts.

 

 

How many ceasefires has Trump ended ? why do you go on and on about past Presidents Impulse ? post on this thread and its heading instead of your Trump propaganda.

Just now, BarraMarra said:

How many ceasefires has Trump ended ? why do you go on and on about past Presidents Impulse ? post on this thread and its heading instead of your Trump propaganda.

End ceasefire? So you want war lol

33 minutes ago, connda said:

instead of being on the brink of nuclear war because of these juveniles dick-wagging about who is winning or losing.

If we're on the brink of a nuclear war it's because a dictator invaded another country. Not because of a commentator wagging on winning or losing.

 

Winning, isn't that something trump thinks terribly important and brags about continuously? Glad to see you don't agree with him on that one.

26 minutes ago, AlexRich said:


What has anything you’ve said above have to do with my comment? 
 

Did Q tell you all that? 
 

:cheesy:

Because you are just parrotting discreditted msm narrative. Their narratives, in case you didnt notice, are only hating Trump at any cost. Whatever he does they say its wrong. So your parrotting the nonsensical Ride Putin Hard narrative(because Trump is trying to win peace through diplomacy) is both dumb and dangerous.

 

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

How many ceasefires has Trump ended ? why do you go on and on about past Presidents Impulse ? post on this thread and its heading instead of your Trump propaganda.

 

This thread is about Trump cleaning up a mess left by those past presidents.  Obama and Biden own the Ukraine tragedy.  Both attacks happened on their watch.  None on Trump's.  He's just gotta clean it up.

 

10 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Who was in the White House in 2014 when Putin took Crimea?

 

Who was in the White House in 2022 when Putin took Donbass?

 

In both cases, BTW, the local population actually voted to stay with Russia.

 

How many parts of Ukraine did Putin take while Trump 45 was in the White House? 

 

That's not a MAGA truth.  Those are facts.

 

 

 

There is no doubt who was in office, but the narrative you are boosting, I do not agree with.

 

However here is quite a sober article who gives you partly right and also explains the complexity of world order  and foreign Affairs securing allies and also needed resources to keep the west floating as the leader of the Free world, and why Trump is not.

 

All Empires serves oranges and lemons, which side do you want to be on? 

 

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/03/02/putin-invade-ukraine-trump-00012897

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5 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

This thread is about Trump cleaning up a mess left by those past presidents.  Obama and Biden own the Ukraine tragedy.  Both attacks happened on their watch.  None on Trump's.  He's just gotta clean it up.

 

He couldn't clean a kitchen floor.

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If the bluffer had any balls he would have had an armed guard with him to arrest Putin as he has on an arrest warrent on him for war crimes.

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2 hours ago, Screaming said:

Putin Says Ukraine War Would Not Have Started If Trump Were President

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/15/putin-says-ukraine-war-would-not-have-started-if-trump-were-president/

 

And what were the "pundits" saying when old dementia Joe was President? There are millions the world over that are applauding President Trump for his effort in trying to end the war in the Ukraine. Even Hillary has claimed that she will nominate President Trump for the Peace Prize if he is successful in negotiating peace. 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/08/15/hillary-clinton-says-trump-could-win-nobel-peace-prize-if-he-ends-war-ukraine-i-d-nominate-him/

What Putin says? Really 🤣

 

Well Putin is smart, he says what suits Him and Russia to make Trump Shine, doesn't he, especially remembering the Zelensky meeting at the White House Putin owned him that part. At least to confirm it for now

 

An useful idiot comes to mind

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

You used to work as a taxi driver my file says

🤣......No, I have never been a taxi driver.............🤣

 

Been warned members, all Malcy lives on is master-baiting..........🤥........🤭

14 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

He couldn't clean a kitchen floor.

 

He's sure doing a hell of a job on that border.   

 

And bulldozers have started clearing 75 homeless camps in DC.  I'll bet that reduces the poop on the sidewalks...  Literal and figurative.

 

 

23 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

End ceasefire? So you want war lol

Oh, dear........:coffee1:

5 hours ago, simple1 said:

Why bother ... 

 

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