1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Most political violence in the U.S. comes from the right.

Not on colleges. Charlie would tour colleges as do Ben and Milo used to. 

Like all of you, I am utterly stunned and heartbroken and sick to my soul today. It is unimaginable to write these words. I met Charlie Kirk when he was 18 years old, a young man so eager and determined that I immediately turned to a friend and said, “That kid is going to be the head of the RNC one day.” Charlie became even bigger and more important than that. It was a privilege to watch this principled man stand up for his beliefs and create the single most important conservative political organization in America. But more importantly, Charlie was a good man, a man who believed in right and wrong, who stood by his Biblical values. All of us will miss him, and I can’t imagine the pain of his beautiful young family, and we must all pray for them. And we must pick up the baton where Charlie left it, fighting for the things he believed in so passionately. And we must fight for a better America - an America where good people can speak truth and debate passionately without fear of a bullet. I weep for Charlie’s family, and I weep for my country today. Most of all, I weep for Charlie.

 

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2 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

The left needs to stop promoting violence on colleges. Been happening for years. Ben spends millions a year on security cause of it.

They won’t because they live in denial…

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Jeeze Louise. Special on tin foil hats in Aisle 6!

 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Most political violence in the U.S. comes from the right.

…and that denial will only further inspire the malleable extremest on the left to incite more violence and will use this murder as an opening/excuse/pass for violence. You watch you wait you’ll see.

27 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

People said stupid things during moment of pique. Remember this during Biden's tenure by GOP?

 

 "The war has begun. Citizens take arms! Drumroll please….. Civil War or No Civil War?”

 

 

 

Both sides feel oppressed  by the result of elections. That's kind of the end of the country is it not? Every 4 years it's mass hysteria from 50% of the country, no one believes the results, calls of civil war, political violence becomes more regular etc...  etc... until the whole system breaks down.

11 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Violence is caused by bad people with no self control. Charlie had silly arguments over what a woman is. Killed for what? Stating facts. 

 

 

Though violence is too often caused by bad people who make calculated decisions statements and actions to incite violence amongst others.

 

 

Jimmy Carr says way more offensive stuff than Charlie ever did but he's a centreist. Charlie being a right Christian made him a target. 

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Though violence is too often caused by bad people who make calculated decisions statements and actions to incite violence amongst others.

 

 

Every outspoken right winger is the target of violence. Why is that? Cause the left has some serious bad guys on it. 

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Geeze Louise. Special on tin foil hats in Aisle 6!

 

what's so crazy about that? If Epstein was doing what he says it makes perfect sense to me. 

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

To suggest it was anyone other than a leftist extremist is idiotic.

Divisive rhetoric, amplified by social media echo chambers, and easy access to firearms lead to increased tension and the potential for violence. It is what it is in mericah.

2 hours ago, riclag said:

I wasn't selling it to you or anyone from the other side . Take what you want of it. Charlie is hated by the left & dems. He's consoling a nation and he's calling out the radical left hatred

The fact you posted it means you were trying to sell 47 as a good man. C'mon now, you've been doing real good on this thread up until now.

1 hour ago, ChiTownEric said:

I DARE you to watch the video of what happened in the House today during this, so called, "force".

A Republican arose and was beginning to make a motion (which they have to vote on) to have a prayer.  Some people from the Left started screaming "NOOOOO".

Since when is a politician attempting to make a motion the same as FORCING people to do anything.

p.s.  I misspoke previously, you didn't say 'demand', you said 'force', but that doesn't change the facts of what actually happened on the House floor today

You do realize that came from the Daily Mail, not me?

"One unidentified Democrat in the room shouted out something about a school shooting at Evergreen High School, Colorado, on Wednesday, asking why no prayers had been offered for that tragedy, which happened within hours of Kirk's."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15086223/democrats-reject-prayers-charlie-kirk-house-shouting.html 

 

BTW, the Constitution has something called, "The separation of church and state."

Holding prayers on the floor of Congress? Really? 

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Most political violence in the U.S. comes from the right.

 

where does that come from? I see the right wing as people who basically want to be left alone and pay lower taxes, not be flooded with illegal immigrants etc.... The left wing however always has grand political motivations and want sweeping changes to the system in order to upset existing power structures. Of the two sides one clearly has greater motivations to commit political violence.

2 hours ago, bubblegum said:

People on both sides are now talking about stocking up on ammo and we are at war. Poor banana republic.

Kind of thinking about the Mini 14, how about you?

56 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

One shot to the head and neck area means the shooter is highly skilled.

 

No, it means the exact opposite. Skilled military snipers NEVER EVER target the head or neck. They target the chest. The neck shot means this is a non-military amateur.

3 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

where does that come from? I see the right wing as people who basically want to be left alone and pay lower taxes, not be flooded with illegal immigrants etc.... The left wing however always has grand political motivations and want sweeping changes to the system in order to upset existing power structures. Of the two sides one clearly has greater motivations to commit political violence.

The vast majority of politically-motivated murders in America are done by white supremacists. Fact.

 

Claiming white supremacists are left wing is logically absurd.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, it means the exact opposite. Skilled military snipers NEVER EVER target the head or neck. They target the chest. The neck shot means this is a non-military amateur.

Could the wind move the bullet 1 foot higher?

8 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Every outspoken right winger is the target of violence. Why is that? Cause the left has some serious bad guys on it. 

I have no idea if that is true, I therefore can’t explain to you why you think it is.

 

I suspect it not true, but then it’s not me making the claim.

 

Moreover I have no idea if it’s something only the rightwing are subjected to, or indeed what to source of threats might be.

 

 

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

He was one of the brightest young stars on the conservative firmament. A young activist who helped Trump win the younger vote.

 

Now silenced forever by a leftist extremist.

If I was an enemy of America I would first fuel the divisons and help get Trump elected (twice) and having achieved that result by using the social media space to skew democracy in a badly failing economy I would pour petrol on the bonfire to hope that the place goes up in flames. They didn't do it directly I am sure of that but in Moscow and Beijing today they are cheering on the demise of their enemy. Russiagate was not a hoax and Musk's X is a toxic brew spewing hatred. 

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The vast majority of politically-motivated murders in America are done by white supremacists. Fact.

 

Claiming white supremacists are left wing is logically absurd.

Most murders per capita are done by blacks not whites.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

I have no idea if that is true, I therefore can’t explain to you why you think it is.

 

I suspect it not true, but then it’s not me making the claim.

 

Moreover I have no idea if it’s something only the rightwing are subjected to, or indeed what to source of threats might be.

 

 

So you don't know that Ben, Milo and Charlie were the target of violence from the left.

 

What a bizarre posting from you.

14 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 Every 4 years it's mass hysteria from 50% of the country, no one believes the results, calls of civil war, political violence becomes more regular etc...  etc... until the whole system breaks down.

That's every day on AN, and a thread like this one, proves a new low bar can be reached.  Some of the comments, how low can you go 

 

R I P

1 hour ago, connda said:

Honestly, I have no idea who Charlie Kirk is.

Hardly anyone but the nut jobs did - it's example of how far we have fallen worshipping the false gods of social media not people who have changed the world in good ways. 

9 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Both sides feel oppressed  by the result of elections. That's kind of the end of the country is it not? Every 4 years it's mass hysteria from 50% of the country, no one believes the results, calls of civil war, political violence becomes more regular etc...  etc... until the whole system breaks down.

So true. The leaders of the winning party must do more to calm the post election situation. What we are seeing now is just the opposite. I fear the political, electoral and economic system are disfunctional and more widespread dissatisfaction among  Americans. Guns exacerbate the bad situation and I don't really see this volatile political situation getting any better.  

1 minute ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Hardly anyone but the nut jobs did - it's example of how far we have fallen worshipping the false gods of social media not people who have changed the world in good ways. 

Charlie has been famous for 3 years. A layman's Ben Shapiro. People who follow US politics know him.

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, it means the exact opposite. Skilled military snipers NEVER EVER target the head or neck. They target the chest. The neck shot means this is a non-military amateur.

What part of the body is easier to hit? Torso or head? I have seen SWAT team sniper  aim for the head.  Also, I have talked to a military snipers has aimed for the head.  Why target the head? Where woud one aim if the enemy or suspect was a suicide bomber? Impacting the torso might not be the best idea. Also, the shooter was in an elevated position. The angle to hit the torsoe would be more difficult than aiming for the head. A straight and level shot would mean a center torso shot would have been more appropriate. 

In Thailand 

1 minute ago, Harrisfan said:

Charlie has been famous for 3 years. A layman's Ben Shapiro. People who follow US politics know him.

I spend a lot of time wasted on the internet going down various rabbit holes - have heard of Ben Shapiro and many other nut jobs (Nic Fuentes anyone) but not him. I won £100 on the US election as well from a friend who bet me Trump wouldn't win and I said I read a  lot of <deleted> so you don't have to and he will win bigly. But his death seems to have been his most famous moment. 

1 minute ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

In Thailand 

I spend a lot of time wasted on the internet going down various rabbit holes - have heard of Ben Shapiro and many other nut jobs (Nic Fuentes anyone) but not him. I won £100 on the US election as well from a friend who bet me Trump wouldn't win and I said I read a  lot of <deleted> so you don't have to and he will win bigly. But his death seems to have been his most famous moment. 

He was mostly famous among under 35yos. 

Just now, Harrisfan said:

He was mostly famous among under 35yos. 

I'm 30 years too late for that party. 

9 hours ago, shdmn said:

The crime rate in red states like Utah is out of control.  They need to send in the National Guard.

 

Always classy the left.