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British War Veteran in Critical Condition at Thai Hospital

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Here we go again......sorry, I am broke.

 

Not wasting my money on irresponsible people.

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  • As soon as you find out you have serious problems, fly back to your home country, if possible. From my personal experience I do not have much faith in diagnostic skills of most doctors here.

  • 73 years old and was still teaching English in Thailand to try and cover living expenses. Doesn't sound like the guy was very prepared for any eventualities at all. One has to wonder why he didn't go

  • ...same 'ole story..."uninsured"...    "Stupid is as stupid does..."... - Forrest Gump

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1 hour ago, Spock said:

How do you get a visa to teach at 73? Surely he wouldn't be admitting to working without an appropriate visa?

When I was a teacher alongside three other farangs, one of them, an Australian, was well into his seventies, and yes, he was a good teacher.

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1 hour ago, brian69 said:

How does the UK NHS know you have been out of the country? unless your stupid enough to tell them. 

 

and the UK NHS also do not have the authority to ask to see your passport either.

Even if he was insured say with WrLife would they pay for his ongoing daily medical expenses or for any other patient suffering with the same medical condition?  I very much doubt it. 555.

 

 

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52 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Schadenfreude is alive and kicking on ASEAN NOW!

Tell me about it how members here just take enormous pleasures in showing how clever they are while wallowing in the misery of others. What on earth happened to this website?

8 minutes ago, NoshowJones said:

When I was a teacher alongside three other farangs, one of them, an Australian, was well into his seventies, and yes, he was a good teacher.

I can understand how someone over 70 may be offered a teaching job but it's the visa that interests me. I assume he would not have been teaching in a government school. I am over 70 and would be interested in teaching if I could.

1 hour ago, kiwikeith said:

But has billions to fund neo nazis in Ukraine 

and also to allow the boat people to get their hotel expenses etc, etc, paid for at the UK taxpayers expense.

2 hours ago, Alpha84 said:

73 years old and was still teaching English in Thailand to try and cover living expenses. Doesn't sound like the guy was very prepared for any eventualities at all. One has to wonder why he didn't go back and live with family in the UK 10 years ago given his financial situation. Had he been there at least there would have been some form of safety net. Now it looks like a very slippery slope. 

To be honest, it seems in places like CM, that the majority of 50+ people lives on a shoe string budget with risks like these around the next corner. Yet they stay. I would never want to be in that situation at later ages, at very least to have 2-3M baht in savings.

1 hour ago, alanrchase said:

He is not a Royal Navy veteran. The Royal Fleet Auxiliary is a civilian organisation that provides logistical support for the Royal Navy. He should have a civil service pension but how much it pays will depend on his length of employment and his position when he left.

"He should have a civil service pension".  and just how much tax is he paying on that?

So many folks here are on retirement incomes and should not be expected to fork over money for irresponsible people.  

Just now, NoshowJones said:

"He should have a civil service pension".  and just how much tax is he paying on that?

 

 

Normal rates

1 hour ago, LittleBear57 said:

Surely he has some income the forces pay a reasonable pension doesn't he receive that from his time served? Also some pension from the state and past earnings from teaching. Also if teaching he should be in the Thai social security system. Glad to see he is getting some help from forces charities, even if not enough.

Hope he gets through this and learn from it as we all should. It can happen to any of us at any time.

I have to pay my health insurance renewal this month so I know how expensive it is.

You would have thought so - Years back there was hell on in the UK after War Widows of the Falklands "Skirmish" were awarded pensions of hundreds (I think about 200 quid a week at the time) of pounds to these widows, when the widows of those killed in THE WAR were forced to live on the <deleted> scraps handed out by the government. In the end, the War widows won the equal pension - and it WAS A GOOD PENSION! I know as my Grandmother received it after about 40 years of waiting.

1 hour ago, brian69 said:

How does the UK NHS know you have been out of the country? unless your stupid enough to tell them. 

 

In his case the medevac and medical record from a Thai hospital might give them a hint.

11 minutes ago, Spock said:

I can understand how someone over 70 may be offered a teaching job but it's the visa that interests me. I assume he would not have been teaching in a government school. I am over 70 and would be interested in teaching if I could.

It was in a government school and it was all legal.

10 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

Normal rates

and how much is "normal" rates involving the UK tax situation?

Doesn't Thailand make it compulsory to have insurance anymore? They used to. Very logical law to have for everyone

 

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

highlights the risks for British nationals abroad without insurance.

 

Not only British nationals, but ALL nationals living abroad, especially in Thailand - German, French, Russian, Indian, American, Chinese, etc. etc.

3 hours ago, Spock said:

How do you get a visa to teach at 73? Surely he wouldn't be admitting to working without an appropriate visa?

And if you are working as a teacher sahouldn't you have health insurance?

 

Edit: Hadn't seen Classic Ray's response.

3 hours ago, Spock said:

How do you get a visa to teach at 73? Surely he wouldn't be admitting to working without an appropriate visa?

What would the authorities do if he did admit he only had a retirement visa

Put him in prison.

So, within 4 hours he would be in a luxurious room with a view, the same as another pensioner was this year

Even though I have full private health insurance and travel insurance linked to that with full cover for existing illnesses I still go to the " hospital of the poor" as my Thai friend calls public hospitals and I have been impressed by the service and costs involved, better than I receive at home ( waiting time to see a doctor) .

of course if it's a serious illness one must switch to private care , which you cannot do if you are uninsured and broke ! 
At the first indication of a serious health issue one should make tracks for home if uninsured, unless of course you don't have the price of a one way ticket to the UK ?

2 hours ago, brian69 said:
3 hours ago, cdulaney said:

Per your comment about medical and VISA requirements, what is your age? Try not to think in a box as many people do not have Family from their home country and that could be the reason for the person living in Thailand. I must say your requirements for an elderly person Sucks.

How does the UK NHS know you have been out of the country? unless your s66tupid enough to tell them. 

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Delaney not everyboby agrees with me but have you got a better solution ?? His family back home must be stressed out with dad / grandad dying in a foreign country and they don't have a Gold Amex to pay for his return  They are totally helpless and when he dies  they are gonna blame themselves my plan might avoid this suffering.

Should be and I would imagine will be compulsory to show valid health insurance on visa renewal annually  as the thai government hospitals get clogged up with these wannabe retiree ex pats , if you can’t afford to retire here or anywhere else now come to that now we are out the eu then stay at home , Thailand for most is nothing more than a holiday destination and allways will be for the realists 

1 hour ago, NoshowJones said:

and how much is "normal" rates involving the UK tax situation?

 

 

Do you not have Google on your computer?

 

We will get greater detail, and accuracy, on there rather than me telling you it is 20%.

2 hours ago, tmd5855 said:

I am an ex Merchant Navy officer (same as him) and it were compulsory when I went off to sea in 1977 to belong too the Merchant Navy Officers Pension fund.  (MNOPF)

 

Retired in 2015 with 38 yrs in the fund, taking the lump sum and monthly pension.  In the RFA he would have been paying 'Class 1 National Insurance' so have the full (Contracted out), UK, Old Age Pension albeit frozen so should not be short.

 

Something does not add up??  Would like to see the cuff of his uniform photo wearing medals.  

 

 

Maybe he's had a couple of "those" sort of relationships?

 

Maybe he's still chasing skirt like a young whippersnapper?

 

Maybe he's a major alcoholic and pished it all away (literally).

 

Maybe (I like this one), he's been a major giver to charities, giving away his money and time to deserving causes.

 

I wonder if he's a judgemental twerp like a lot on here?

29 minutes ago, terryofcrete said:

Even though I have full private health insurance and travel insurance linked to that with full cover for existing illnesses I still go to the " hospital of the poor" as my Thai friend calls public hospitals and I have been impressed by the service and costs involved, better than I receive at home ( waiting time to see a doctor) .

of course if it's a serious illness one must switch to private care , which you cannot do if you are uninsured and broke ! 
At the first indication of a serious health issue one should make tracks for home if uninsured, unless of course you don't have the price of a one way ticket to the UK ?

 

Back in the day when it was beer and skittles 24/7, a few of us high-rolling oilfield trash invested in a 5 baht gold chain. In the event of over-ringing the bell, and 2 short-times plus 1 long-time every day while on leave, and the job suddenly disappearing, the chain was the means to getting a ticket home to reality. A sort of 'in case of fire, break glass' insurance.

20 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Transferred to King Prajadhipok Memorial Hospital, Parker now requires intensive care as his spleen has collapsed a lung, necessitating daily drainage. Tests suggest an 80% likelihood of lymphoma, but results are not definitive. Facing staggering medical expenses and lacking health insurance, the family is unable to afford private healthcare or the estimated £30,000 to £85,000 cost for medical evacuation to the UK.

Sad, indeed very sad. But, when you don't have an insurance or savings, or is prepared for the finacially affordable care in a government hospital, you really should consider, if Thailand is the right place for you, when you comes from a country with free healthcare. Also, you should make your mind clear, if you are prepared to die in Thailand and let your family know. It can also mean a heavy burden for your family back home, if something happens when uninsured or without enough funds. However, I fully understand that the family try everything – hereunder GoFundMe – and I wish the best for them.

2 hours ago, NoshowJones said:

and the UK NHS also do not have the authority to ask to see your passport either.

Absolutely it's not mandatory to have a passport.

3 hours ago, soalbundy said:

your registered doctor wont have any recent records (in my case he's been dead for years), you wont have your own address.

There are emergency doctors to register, maybe not in his case, but say your on holiday in the UK and get sick, you find them, I got registered just outside Brighton Train Station, when I thought I had a skin cancer node. 

20 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Facing staggering medical expenses and lacking health insurance, t

ahhhh...there you have it...som nom na... 

3 hours ago, brian69 said:

How does the UK NHS know you have been out of the country? unless your stupid enough to tell them. 

 

From 8 April 2015, we will collect information on passengers leaving the UK as we do for those entering.

 In 1998 embarkation checks were scrapped entirely.

Since 2004 the UK has moved to a more sophisticated approach to checks by starting to collect Advance Passenger Information (API) for both inbound and outbound air passengers. API includes the passenger’s full name, nationality, date of birth, gender and travel document number, type and country of issue.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/exit-checks-on-passengers-leaving-the-uk/exit-checks-fact-sheet#:

Government already knows date people have left the uk and the date that they re-enter

So easy for NHS to find out how long a person has been out of the UK

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