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Thailand's EV Market Faces Consumer Protection Challenges

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Thailand's electric vehicle (EV) market is confronting significant consumer rights challenges, as highlighted by a new study from the Thailand Consumer Council (TCC). This study uncovers structural gaps, such as battery safety risks, unclear warranty terms, and inadequate after-sales service. Led by Manon Suklamai from King Mongkut's University of Technology Thonburi, the research urges stronger consumer protections, including "lemon laws," to hold manufacturers accountable for defective vehicles.

 

The study involved over 400 EV users and analyzed global regulatory practices. Currently, Thai consumers face multiple risks without effective protections. Lemon laws, found in the US, China, and Singapore, provide consumers recourse for defective vehicles. "A product recall should not be alarming—it's about responsibility," said Mr. Manon. He emphasized the need for comprehensive consumer protections beyond simple replacements, aiming to ensure quality throughout production and post-sale service stages.

 

Three critical areas of concern were identified: safety standards, ambiguous legal frameworks, and economic instability. Specifically, battery safety, fire prevention, warranty vagueness, slow claims, and uncertain manufacturer presence were highlighted. Sudden price cuts on new EV models depreciate secondhand values and increase debt burdens, eroding consumer confidence and affecting the broader industry and financial stability.

 

The study compares Thailand's situation with other regions, noting that Europe, China, and the US have established frameworks, while Japan enforces strict penalties to mitigate issues. In contrast, Thailand lacks preventive mechanisms, resulting in ongoing consumer complaints. The research calls for a policy package involving multiple agencies to enhance fairness, safety, and market stability.

 

Mr. Manon stressed that lawsuits should be a "last resort," advocating for strong preventive measures instead. He emphasized the importance of developing standards for manufacturing, conversions, installations, and ensuring safety measures at charging stations. This, he suggested, would significantly reduce recurring problems. Thailand's transition from a car assembly hub to an EV production base hinges on increased local content and technology transfer to boost domestic industry competitiveness.

 

The report concludes that implementing these measures will enhance consumer confidence and promote fairness in the market. This will reduce safety and debt risks while aiding Thailand in becoming a sustainable regional EV hub. The TCC urges government agencies to integrate their efforts and swiftly adopt these recommendations into policy.

 

Key Takeaways

  • Thailand's EV market faces significant consumer protection issues.
  • Stronger protections, like "lemon laws," are recommended.
  • Market stability depends on improved standards and policies.

 

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  • GreasyFingers
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    This will be "fake news" to some EV owners on here

  • I have multiple EV for many years.   buying Ev is better now a days, but still the corporations are screwing customers.  From my experience, the advertised range is completely BS for almost every

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This will be "fake news" to some EV owners on here

6 minutes ago, GreasyFingers said:

This will be "fake news" to some EV owners on here

Why ?

 

The news itself is quite vague and lacks any real info.  Would assume the same assurances from auto makes should applies to ICEV also.   Just a common sense thing, the govt's consumer protection agency should have already taken care of.   But .... TIT ... and not known for consumer protection as most 3rd world countries are not. 

 

Again, blip has little real info, what if anything is missing or needs to be done.  Why when buying any product, research and know their track record.   Just some of that uncommon common sense most shoppers don't have.  That's pretty, nice turning signal.  How many cup holders ... we'll take it.

 

We had almost 6 months to research our choice of BEV before delivery, though auto maker has been around for long time, with BEV experience.  Researched for months even before ordering.   

 

Happy with our choice and would probably make the same choice, though model has been replaced,  with same specs, and a tweak on styling.  Actually like the uniqueness of our better.

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I have multiple EV for many years.  
buying Ev is better now a days, but still the corporations are screwing customers.
 From my experience, the advertised range is completely BS for almost every brand except for Tesla. BYD for example true range is 50-60% the advertised numbers. And most EVs are. 
 

Also BYD screw owners with SIM card limit of 2 years. They didn’t tell you that you can’t change Sim otherwise the car app stop working, and after 2 years data stops working. And that’s it. 
Also most owners don’t know that a BYD BATTERY costs 600,000 to 900,000 baht to replace. 
Do owners know that the “awesome BYD Blade” battery is not repairable? It’s soldered and sealed with epoxy, opening destroys it. 

How about when MG said the ZS EV had the android and apple car play feature in the brochures but the car didn’t have it. And never came via an update. 
How about Neta failing so bad the safety tests getting 0 stars. Is worse that a pickup from 1999. owners probably don’t know that. 
 

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23 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Why ?

 

The news itself is quite vague and lacks any real info.  Would assume the same assurances from auto makes should applies to ICEV also.   Just a common sense thing, the govt's consumer protection agency should have already taken care of.   But .... TIT ... and not known for consumer protection as most 3rd world countries are not. 

 

Again, blip has little real info, what if anything is missing or needs to be done.  Why when buying any product, research and know their track record.   Just some of that uncommon common sense most shoppers don't have.  That's pretty, nice turning signal.  How many cup holders ... we'll take it.

 

We had almost 6 months to research our choice of BEV before delivery, though auto maker has been around for long time, with BEV experience.  Researched for months even before ordering.   

 

Happy with our choice and would probably make the same choice, though model has been replaced,  with same specs, and a tweak on styling.  Actually like the uniqueness of our better.

Knew you could not help yourself.

1 hour ago, brfsa2 said:

 BYD for example true range is 50-60% the advertised numbers. And most EVs are. 
 

Also BYD screw owners with SIM card limit of 2 years. They didn’t tell you that you can’t change Sim otherwise the car app stop working, and after 2 years data stops working. And that’s it. 
Also most owners don’t know that a BYD BATTERY costs 600,000 to 900,000 baht to replace. 
Do owners know that the “awesome BYD Blade” battery is not repairable? It’s soldered and sealed with epoxy, opening destroys it. 

How about when MG said the ZS EV had the android and apple car play feature in the brochures but the car didn’t have it. And never came via an update. 
How about Neta failing so bad the safety tests getting 0 stars. Is worse that a pickup from 1999. owners probably don’t know that. 
 

I am looking at buying a used BYD seal but is the estimated range really 50-60% ?

Also the BYD battery being 6-900,000 baht sounds crazy but should last at least 10 years 

the main concern is nobody really knows how long they will last although my wife is going to get either a Tesla or the Blade only because i told her i will not being driving the Good Cat or Neta 

1 hour ago, GreasyFingers said:

Knew you could not help yourself.

How's that ???

 

You said us EV fanboys would think it's fake news.   Actually it's no news.  I just thought I'd point that out.

 

Your first reply is a bit telling.   Did you even read the OP ?

2 hours ago, brfsa2 said:

I have multiple EV for many years.  
buying Ev is better now a days, but still the corporations are screwing customers.
 From my experience, the advertised range is completely BS for almost every brand except for Tesla. BYD for example true range is 50-60% the advertised numbers. And most EVs are. 
 

Also BYD screw owners with SIM card limit of 2 years. They didn’t tell you that you can’t change Sim otherwise the car app stop working, and after 2 years data stops working. And that’s it. 
Also most owners don’t know that a BYD BATTERY costs 600,000 to 900,000 baht to replace. 
Do owners know that the “awesome BYD Blade” battery is not repairable? It’s soldered and sealed with epoxy, opening destroys it. 

How about when MG said the ZS EV had the android and apple car play feature in the brochures but the car didn’t have it. And never came via an update. 
How about Neta failing so bad the safety tests getting 0 stars. Is worse that a pickup from 1999. owners probably don’t know that. 
 

What are you on about ?   Hard to believe you own any BEV.

 

BYD only gets 50-60% range ... false (in TH),  Daughter has the Atto 3, loves it, and visited us without stopping to charge, which is shy of 300 kms, with nice reserve when arrived.

 

I've even gotten the NEDC 403 range with our MG ZS, once or twice, actually driving the very low test speeds of the test.

 

The WLTP range of 320 is wrong, as we get 340 kms on the highway at speed (90 kph, when possible) almost 2X that of the average test speed  of  WLTP testing.  We get about 360 kms around town, with varied speeds of 30-60-90 kph

 

MG ZG does have Google & Apple play available, but need to download the update, which we still haven't done, as we won't use.   Use to get reminders, but think the wife cancelled those notifications.

 

@kwak250

What would you expect an 8 yr old (warranty length, if not MG), costing 600k-1M THB to be worth ?   Depending on the car, I doubt if I'd spend 200k to replace any battery.  Probably cost more than the value of any 8 yr old car.

 

Along from the petrol savings over those 8 yrs, ~40k a year if driving ~20k kms a yr, I'm seeing much of a financial risk owning a BEV.

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2 hours ago, brfsa2 said:

From my experience, the advertised range is completely BS for almost every brand except for Tesla. BYD for example true range is 50-60% the advertised numbers. And most EVs are. 

i do call your range claim a big BS. i get with my performance byd the advertised range, even driving sometimes sporty ... have more than 12'000km on the odo ... :smile:

the range / consummation depends the same as for ICE mostly on your driving style ...

 

42 minutes ago, kwak250 said:

I am looking at buying a used BYD seal but is the estimated range really 50-60% ?

 

If you hark back to the EPA ranges quoted for ICE vehicles they would be lucky to get near published figures. 

There are three different or maybe now two standards for rages given. They are real road test numbers vary up to 63%. So the claims of 50 - 60%  sound credible. I've seen 2km / kWh through 2.5 up to 3.5 depending upon driving conditions . Then in Thailand everyone has the AC on max; that energy has to come from somewhere. Again back to the old EP{A ICE numbers. as I said no one ever got near them either but there was less planning required to replenish the tank. Ev's will just require a bit more route/trip planning. 

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2 hours ago, brfsa2 said:

I have multiple EV for many years.  
buying Ev is better now a days, but still the corporations are screwing customers.
 From my experience, the advertised range is completely BS for almost every brand except for Tesla. BYD for example true range is 50-60% the advertised numbers. And most EVs are. 
 

Also BYD screw owners with SIM card limit of 2 years. They didn’t tell you that you can’t change Sim otherwise the car app stop working, and after 2 years data stops working. And that’s it. 
Also most owners don’t know that a BYD BATTERY costs 600,000 to 900,000 baht to replace. 
Do owners know that the “awesome BYD Blade” battery is not repairable? It’s soldered and sealed with epoxy, opening destroys it. 

How about when MG said the ZS EV had the android and apple car play feature in the brochures but the car didn’t have it. And never came via an update. 
How about Neta failing so bad the safety tests getting 0 stars. Is worse that a pickup from 1999. owners probably don’t know that. 
 


If you are only achieving 50 to 60% range from your BYD EV i suggest you seek some additional assistance to improve your driving style.

Most EV drivers will achieve a 20% drop from the stated NEDC range by driving how they want.

By driving economically that figure can drop to 10% or less.

Thailand Consumers Council addresses rising EV complaints, proposes policies on after-sales service and transparency to restore consumer confidence

The proposed policy measures for protecting consumers include:

Setting clear guidelines for quality assurance and after-sales service before approving any subsidies. For example, requiring service centres to be available in major areas within 1 year, and ensuring spare parts availability in Thailand for at least 5 years.

Establishing a special complaint centre for EV-related issues, in collaboration with the OCPB and the Department of Land Transport, to handle issues efficiently.

Providing transparent information for consumers about brand history, service capabilities, and long-term maintenance costs to help the public make informed decisions based on accurate data.

The Council will now present these recommendations to the National Electric Vehicle Committee for approval and then submit them to the Cabinet for consideration.

https://www.nationthailand.com/business/automobile/40055024

I think the majority of complaints are associated with one EV Brand that used to have multiple outlets all over the country but recently sales outlets are limited to the Bangkok and surrronding provinces

service centres are rare

And some customers when entering the dealership over warranty issues were told we just sell anything else not our problem go away

1 hour ago, Andrew Dwyer said:


If you are only achieving 50 to 60% range from your BYD EV i suggest you seek some additional assistance to improve your driving style.

Most EV drivers will achieve a 20% drop from the stated NEDC range by driving how they want.

By driving economically that figure can drop to 10% or less.

He is definitely exaggerating and wonder if he even owns an EV.  Even a Neta gets around ~75%+ of the stated.  It is frustrating though and don't know why China does this with many products.

2 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

 

If you hark back to the EPA ranges quoted for ICE vehicles they would be lucky to get near published figures. 

There are three different or maybe now two standards for rages given. They are real road test numbers vary up to 63%. So the claims of 50 - 60%  sound credible. I've seen 2km / kWh through 2.5 up to 3.5 depending upon driving conditions . Then in Thailand everyone has the AC on max; that energy has to come from somewhere. Again back to the old EP{A ICE numbers. as I said no one ever got near them either but there was less planning required to replenish the tank. Ev's will just require a bit more route/trip planning. 

AC uses very little, and TBH, not even worth mentioning.  Maybe 2 % per hour.   I've left the dog in the car, about 1/2 hr, and used ~1%, with car on full poser, ready to drive.

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1276247-ev-owners-…-real-life-experience-help-thread/page/6/#comment-18100703

 

50-60% is BS in TH.  Maybe cold weather w/heater on.   If you live in that type of climate, check out YTer Bjørn Nyland, as he does reviews in cold weather & TH.

 

I would expect the WLTP range rating to be accurate, or even a negative.  as stated above, ours is rated at 320 kms and we get 360 around town, and 340 on the highway.

 

People, stop listening to all the BS.  I've post many times, actually driving experiences, with photos & numbers to back up what I say, and other 'owners' agree.

8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

AC uses very little, and TBH, not even worth mentioning.  Maybe 2 % per hour.   I've left the dog in the car, about 1/2 hr, and used ~1%, with car on full poser, ready to drive.

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1276247-ev-owners-…-real-life-experience-help-thread/page/6/#comment-18100703

 

50-60% is BS in TH.  Maybe cold weather w/heater on.   If you live in that type of climate, check out YTer Bjørn Nyland, as he does reviews in cold weather & TH.

 

I would expect the WLTP range rating to be accurate, or even a negative.  as stated above, ours is rated at 320 kms and we get 360 around town, and 340 on the highway.

 

People, stop listening to all the BS.  I've post many times, actually driving experiences, with photos & numbers to back up what I say, and other 'owners' agree.

Interesting post. MG seems to have a good rep in regards to stated range.  I bought a Neta to get a feel if an EV would work for me.  I kept my ICE truck that has been a dream.  This is a bare bones EV! Still compared to the truck it is lovely and recently sold the truck and hire help to do the things that can't be accomplished in a hatchback.  Already looking to upgrade to a Seal but fighting the temptation. Possibly waiting a couple years and buying an EV truck would be a better option. 

 

Most of my EV driving is on the highway and I use the scooter in town.  Highway driving is not the Neta's strength as far as range is concerned. Every 10 kph has a huge impact on range.  At 130 kph I would get 60% but I now drive slower than before which is fine. I get 75% of the stated range driving between 90-105 kph.

 

What is obvious is that all these range and battery lifespan arguments will be silly  in a few years time. The ICE crowd has put up a good fight but many are now conceding...

 

 

18 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Interesting post. MG seems to have a good rep in regards to stated range.  I bought a Neta to get a feel if an EV would work for me.  I kept my ICE truck that has been a dream.  This is a bare bones EV! Still compared to the truck it is lovely and recently sold the truck and hire help to do the things that can't be accomplished in a hatchback.  Already looking to upgrade to a Seal but fighting the temptation. Possibly waiting a couple years and buying an EV truck would be a better option. 

 

Most of my EV driving is on the highway and I use the scooter in town.  Highway driving is not the Neta's strength as far as range is concerned. Every 10 kph has a huge impact on range.  At 130 kph I would get 60% but I now drive slower than before which is fine. I get 75% of the stated range driving between 90-105 kph.

 

What is obvious is that all these range and battery lifespan arguments will be silly  in a few years time. The ICE crowd has put up a good fight but many are now conceding...

 

 

Hi, we have a Neta V too and range varies between 3.5 and 4 kms per 1% of battery which suits us fine as it's used mostly for the school run, 120 kms per day. Haven't noticed any drop in battery range in more than 100,000 kms of driving. Biggest downside has been Neta's much publicised financial woes with following production halt. It meant we had a 9 month wait for spare parts and repair after being rear ended last December. Luckily our car was still drivable. Like you I'm waiting for a better choice of ev pickups before getting one....will never go back to an ICE car, they make zero sense to me.

2 minutes ago, atpeace said:

Interesting post. MG seems to have a good rep in regards to stated range.  I bought a Neta to get a feel if an EV would work for me.  I kept my ICE truck that has been a dream.  This is a bare bones EV! Still compared to the truck it is lovely and recently sold the truck and hire help to do the things that can't be accomplished in a hatchback.  Already looking to upgrade to a Seal but fighting the temptation. Possibly waiting a couple years and buying an EV truck would be a better option. 

 

Most of my EV driving is on the highway and I use the scooter in town.  Highway driving is not the Neta's strength as far as range is concerned. Every 10 kph has a huge impact on range.  At 130 kph I would get 60% but I now drive slower than before which is fine. I get 75% of the stated range driving between 90-105 kph.

 

What is obvious is that all these range and battery lifespan arguments will be silly  in a few years time. The ICE crowd has put up a good fight but many are now conceding...

Yes, higher speed will eat up a bit more electrons.  I was driving rather aggressive on our last O&A, as highways up North seem to be built better for higher speeds, and caught myself in the 100 +/- way more than usual.   Especially passing through 'central area' up to & back down, as pretty flat & boring.

 

We usually cruise 90 +/-, and I did notice about 10% more needed per 100 kms.   Instead of a reading of 13.5 kWh +/- for 100 kms, it was more reading 14.5 per 100 kms, when cruising at higher speed.

 

People don't realize, the average NEDC testing speed is 33 kph, with WLTP testing speed being 47 kph (see below).   So getting the WLTP range is possible, if you drive conservative.   Not sure I do, as I do seem to pull away from traffic lights a bit faster than most, but then the all pass me while I'm cruising at 90 kph.

 

I also don't use CC (cruise control) as much as I used to, as that disengages regen.   Which I utilize as much as possible.   I rarely touch the brakes, and coast up to all slower traffic from a distance.   Amazing how much that sends beck to the battery.   Also why I caught myself doing 100+ quite often up north, and roads are better and everyone seem to be driving a bit faster than down south.

 

The few stretches below Bangkok that allow 120 kph, I don't feel comfortable driving at that speed, as road simply isn't made for it, and too much traffic, as most is 2 lane only, or worse, 4 lanes, with the 80/100/120 signage, and everyone changing lanes.  Rabbit starts in sport mode & braking will eat up electrons.  Especially braking as defeats regen, which is a big part of the tech that affords longer range.

 

Doing 130, on highway for any length of time, then yea, you'd eat up electrons fast.  That's got to be about the max a NETA will do, so the ride can't be that comfy at high speeds.   Also keep an eye on your tire wear, as doubt stock tires are made for that.   They do need to cut some corners to keep the price low, and would thing suspension & tires are an easy way to do that.

 

I've actually gotten the NEDC range of 403 kms, but that was driving at very slow speeds.  Usually when dog & myself are driving countryside, back roads, looking for birds to photograph, or taking a slow ride, surfside.  And that's quite rare.

 

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11 minutes ago, edwinchester said:

Hi, we have a Neta V too and range varies between 3.5 and 4 kms per 1% of battery which suits us fine as it's used mostly for the school run, 120 kms per day. Haven't noticed any drop in battery range in more than 100,000 kms of driving. Biggest downside has been Neta's much publicised financial woes with following production halt. It meant we had a 9 month wait for spare parts and repair after being rear ended last December. Luckily our car was still drivable. Like you I'm waiting for a better choice of ev pickups before getting one....will never go back to an ICE car, they make zero sense to me.

We had an oops in the 2022 MG ZS, and took out rear quarter panel & door.  But main damage was to the wheel hub, and had to be completely replaced.  Inop, and about 5 weeks total till we got it back.  2 weeks of that, was waiting for insurance to approve, and parts were needed to be ordered.

 

Took longer than usual, as thought fixed, until test drove, then they realized they missed something in the hub repair, and had to order another part before it was completely repaired, and that actually added 2 weeks to the repair (approval & part arrival).  Quite happy with that, and we had the E-MC & ebike for transport while waiting, so no real inconvenience.

18 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

We had an oops in the 2022 MG ZS, and took out rear quarter panel & door.  But main damage was to the wheel hub, and had to be completely replaced.  Inop, and about 5 weeks total till we got it back.  2 weeks of that, was waiting for insurance to approve, and parts were needed to be ordered.

 

Took longer than usual, as thought fixed, until test drove, then they realized they missed something in the hub repair, and had to order another part before it was completely repaired, and that actually added 2 weeks to the repair (approval & part arrival).  Quite happy with that, and we had the E-MC & ebike for transport while waiting, so no real inconvenience.

Lesson learned with Neta, next car will come from a financially sound company. Facebook Neta groups show the situation has improved somewhat but there are still serious problems with the official supply chain.

I have done 76,000 km on my Atto 3 already, on the 3rd set of michelin tires, mostly highway, well, ok, 50% is my case only, others are better. sorry for the fuzz. 

I get 240-280km range in highway at 100-120km/h, the range drops dramatically the moment you go over 100km/h.

 

Just look, I took a trip here to the beach the other day,. see photo with "TRIP A 266km" that used 90% (left home at 100%, if you take my word for it) That was kind absurd considering the 30 minutes stop with Air con turned on.

 

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Just now, edwinchester said:

Lesson learned with Neta, next car will come from a financially sound company. Facebook Neta groups show the situation has improved somewhat but there are still serious problems with the official supply chain.

Really is why we stuck with MG.  For me, I rolled the dice with buying the ICE version of the MG, as pre China owned, the MG rep was terrible, this from my brother's experience with his MGBs.  Great fun to drive, when they were drivable.  

 

Really couldn't be happier with the 2020 MG ZS (ICE), especially since owning Vios (2) & a Mazda 2 prior.   Served us well, but really a POS for highway driving, and the Mazda 2 had all kinds of issues after daughter inherited it.  And not her fault for not maintaining, it just broke down every couple months.

 

MG had a good history, well, parent company, SAIC, with a few years of BEV experience and no major complaints.  So when they upgraded the ZS, along with 240k THB govt incentive, and we already had solar contracted for the house, it really was a no brainer.   The only BEV dealer with an already established dealership & CS network.  BYD's Atto 3 had just arrived, and limited to Krung Thep dealers.

 

Only negative,was selling the 2022 ZS, during scamdemic (buyer's market) and only owning for 2yrs / 40k kms.  Really didn't take that bad of a hit, just not the way to get money worth, buying cars ever 2 years, as planned on killing it over 10-20 yrs :cheesy:

 

If estimated numbers are accurate, the ZS EV will outlast us, and the wife is only 49 yrs old, next week.

 

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52 minutes ago, edwinchester said:

Hi, we have a Neta V too and range varies between 3.5 and 4 kms per 1% of battery which suits us fine as it's used mostly for the school run, 120 kms per day. Haven't noticed any drop in battery range in more than 100,000 kms of driving. Biggest downside has been Neta's much publicised financial woes with following production halt. It meant we had a 9 month wait for spare parts and repair after being rear ended last December. Luckily our car was still drivable. Like you I'm waiting for a better choice of ev pickups before getting one....will never go back to an ICE car, they make zero sense to me.

The Toyota Trevo coming in November is supposed to have a BEV option. Considering how Toyota priced the Bz4x, I doubt the trevo will be reasonable. but who knows... I am also looking for a Pickup, but I want diesel and used one, however the new 48V mild hybrid Trevo will be tempting.

 

The only option now is the RIDDARA RD6, I think it's a capable car, but wont do the same mistake again to be the first. 

Just now, brfsa2 said:

I have done 76,000 km on my Atto 3 already, on the 3rd set of michelin tires, mostly highway, well, ok, 50% is my case only, others are better. sorry for the fuzz. 

I get 240-280km range in highway at 100-120km/h, the range drops dramatically the moment you go over 100km/h.

 

Just look, I took a trip here to the beach the other day,. see photo with "TRIP A 266km" that used 90% (left home at 100%, if you take my word for it) That was kind absurd considering the 30 minutes stop with Air con turned on.

 

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That much better & credible, with that added content, (highway at 100-120km/h), and explains your low range ... THANK YOU

 

You're going through tires pretty fast, as we're still on original set, and just over 50k kms, with still some decent tread to go.

57 minutes ago, edwinchester said:

Hi, we have a Neta V too and range varies between 3.5 and 4 kms per 1% of battery which suits us fine as it's used mostly for the school run, 120 kms per day. Haven't noticed any drop in battery range in more than 100,000 kms of driving. Biggest downside has been Neta's much publicised financial woes with following production halt. It meant we had a 9 month wait for spare parts and repair after being rear ended last December. Luckily our car was still drivable. Like you I'm waiting for a better choice of ev pickups before getting one....will never go back to an ICE car, they make zero sense to me.

 

I can feel your pain, the laws in Thailand should definitely improve to protect the customers. I love EVs and want to see adoption, but the laws need to change.

on the good side you already saved a lot of money from Gas doing that 100,000 km of yours on the EV.

 

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

That much better & credible, with that added content, (highway at 100-120km/h), and explains your low range ... THANK YOU

 

You're going through tires pretty fast, as we're still on original set, and just over 50k kms, with still some decent tread to go.

 

well, because I got rid of that stock tires very quickly, I didnt feel it had enough grip on the wet, aquaplaning was happening often and alarming.

 

Also note that I got rid of that original shocks, and installed TEIN Endura pro. it transformed car to something else, it's really amazing how it drives now, super stable and planted on the road. no more bouncy and pogo stick feeling, it handles way better than any car I have had. Now the car is really fun!!!

55 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

 

I had no idea NEDC speed was 33 kph. I could easily get the stated 384 at that speed and bet it would be closer to 500 kilometers. Not going to test it but would be easy enough where I live if time wasn't an issue. Could just wind down country roads following the Mekhong on a long trip up north.

Tesla rolled out its supervised Full Self Drive (FSD) software in Australia and NZ about three weeks ago. These are the first right hand drive countries to use the technology. So far (over 1 million kms driven by Tesla drivers) all is good.

I wonder which Asian country will be the first to try it out. (Singapore probably but that doesn't really count).

If it works FSD will be a game changer. 

Tomorrow just became that little closer

32 minutes ago, edwinchester said:

Lesson learned with Neta, next car will come from a financially sound company. Facebook Neta groups show the situation has improved somewhat but there are still serious problems with the official supply chain.

I was upset but now don't worry at all.  It is a lovely car and the exterior has become a positive and not as ugly as I thought when I bought it.  I really could get by for 3 months if I had to without a car and with rare exception  anything could be fixed in that time frame. My wife's sister's family beats their Neta up with fast charging, accidents and repeated 150 miles trips daily.  No idea about the kilometers  because he somehow had them rolled back but my wild guess is 150k.  No issues in ~2 years of ownership.

30 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Really is why we stuck with MG.  For me, I rolled the dice with buying the ICE version of the MG, as pre China owned, the MG rep was terrible, this from my brother's experience with his MGBs.  Great fun to drive, when they were drivable.  

 

Really couldn't be happier with the 2020 MG ZS (ICE), especially since owning Vios (2) & a Mazda 2 prior.   Served us well, but really a POS for highway driving, and the Mazda 2 had all kinds of issues after daughter inherited it.  And not her fault for not maintaining, it just broke down every couple months.

 

MG had a good history, well, parent company, SAIC, with a few years of BEV experience and no major complaints.  So when they upgraded the ZS, along with 240k THB govt incentive, and we already had solar contracted for the house, it really was a no brainer.   The only BEV dealer with an already established dealership & CS network.  BYD's Atto 3 had just arrived, and limited to Krung Thep dealers.

 

Only negative,was selling the 2022 ZS, during scamdemic (buyer's market) and only owning for 2yrs / 40k kms.  Really didn't take that bad of a hit, just not the way to get money worth, buying cars ever 2 years, as planned on killing it over 10-20 yrs :cheesy:

 

If estimated numbers are accurate, the ZS EV will outlast us, and the wife is only 49 yrs old, next week.

 

LFP Battery cycle.png

 

Here the in laws have an MG3 with 219,000 KM running flawless! it's a slow car, but very reliable and cheap to run.

Any LFP battery will last longer than the car, as long as you dont crash it and as long as the water proof sealing stays for that long. 

 

28 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

well, because I got rid of that stock tires very quickly, I didnt feel it had enough grip on the wet, aquaplaning was happening often and alarming.

Thought all EVs had traction control and ABS.

My NETA certainly does.

30 minutes ago, brfsa2 said:

The Toyota Trevo coming in November is supposed to have a BEV option. Considering how Toyota priced the Bz4x, I doubt the trevo will be reasonable. but who knows... I am also looking for a Pickup, but I want diesel and used one, however the new 48V mild hybrid Trevo will be tempting.

 

The only option now is the RIDDARA RD6, I think it's a capable car, but wont do the same mistake again to be the first. 

Yes the Riddara would be my choice right now but a choice of one isn't really a choice is it 555. It actually looks alot better in the flesh than in pics and the 4wd version is very tempting but I can wait a year to see what else appears.

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