4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

One day in the not too distant future people will be able to walk into a pharmacy and say I'm ready for the pod, go out back and have a pleasant death - not some awful suicide involving condo flying or some other way

The sooner, the better.

 

The world is becoming over populated 

Suicide is a GODsend for those that don't want to hang around any more, for what ever reason.  My demise will probably be ...

... Suicide

... or just not wake up from a sound sleep

 

Prefer the latter obviously, but if suicide, that means my body just isn't playing nice any more, and time to check out   ...  pain free.

For those fed up in life, they could start getting serviced by the Ladyboys or prostitutes,  with no condom. 

11 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Good, get 10 delivered there ASAP

 

Business opportunity. 

There were a lot of suicides during Covid.

Sometimes it's just based on false perceptions. They probably thought it was the end of the world. 

 

4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

There were a lot of suicides during Covid.

Sometimes it's just based on false perceptions. They probably thought it was the end of the world. 

 

 

Or their livelihood was taken from then due to closing the planet for 2 years. Money is a powerful part of emotional reactions in humans. 

A post has been removed asking about how to effect suicide.

 

Do not ask or suggest any means, please

 

This could be construed as 'assisting', which illegal in Thailand.

11 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

Or their livelihood was taken from then due to closing the planet for 2 years. Money is a powerful part of emotional reactions in humans. 

 

Yeah, Thais have no safety net. 

But even in the West. Maybe wasn't related only to business loss. I think some people went into panic mode and thought the world was ending. 

 

7 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Many live good lives, around good family and friends, with a support system, good diet and exercise, then still take their lives. Most of it, besides environmental and seasonal, is genetics. Depression does come and go, but for some it gets like a dark cloud that doesn't go away, and when they are that low, nothing besides professional help will stop what they think is the best endgame. 

You are referring to the exceptions as research and experts have shown.  People with a good family and friends, with a support system, good diet and exercise rarely kill themselves.

 

Seeking professional help is not a bad idea for most but far from the only solution.  You've been around long enough to see people that are suicidal turn things around without meds or professional help.  Yes?

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@Peter Crow

14 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Oh and that's the problem with people like you trying to sweep this tragedy under the carpet !!!

How dare you !

 

We shouldn't be reporting it ?

it's negativity  so we must not talk about it ?

How dare you Sir ,how dare you ,it needs to be spoke about to prevent it 

 

Yes it does Greta, but please speak about it somewhere else, ok?

 

There's already more than enough other stuff "under the carpet" in Pattaya already.

 

 

Another post discussing the implementation of suicide has been removed.

 

A prior advisory was already issued against this.

 

Please make sure this does not happen again.

 

9 hours ago, atpeace said:

You are referring to the exceptions as research and experts have shown.  People with a good family and friends, with a support system, good diet and exercise rarely kill themselves.

 

Seeking professional help is not a bad idea for most but far from the only solution.  You've been around long enough to see people that are suicidal turn things around without meds or professional help.  Yes?

I've known three that took their own lives. All with good support, houses, wives, friends, money and other things. What they didn't have was a doctor or medications, even though some were available when it happened. About 75% of suicides happen in low to middle class areas, the rest with the well off. Diet and exercise can help some, but people who have clinical depression don't really care about exercising and some either eat a lot or very little. I've read what the professionals say for over 30 years, and what's improved are those medications, along with early diagnosis, where that exercise and healthy diet can help more. A person acknowledging they need help is the best first thing. 

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

I've known three that took their own lives. All with good support, houses, wives, friends, money and other things. What they didn't have was a doctor or medications, even though some were available when it happened. About 75% of suicides happen in low to middle class areas, the rest with the well off. Diet and exercise can help some, but people who have clinical depression don't really care about exercising and some either eat a lot or very little. I've read what the professionals say for over 30 years, and what's improved are those medications, along with early diagnosis, where that exercise and healthy diet can help more. A person acknowledging they need help is the best first thing. 

I agree with most of the above but have seen some really struggle with the meds and some just give up regardless.  We have more meds and professionals than ever yet the suicide rate keeps increasing. 

 

Could meds be part of the issue?  I don't know but life can be challenging for young people that are extremely unhealthy in many cases.  Throwing more meds at them isn't the answer and a quick fix that obviously isn't working.  Time and place for everything but meds IMO shouldn't be the default solution.  

 

We need to question the experts and also respect their views.  They do understand more in their fields than us but the no questions allowed attitude is not productive.  It creates frustration and irrational beliefs as this forum exemplifies.

 

 

4 minutes ago, atpeace said:

I agree with most of the above but have seen some really struggle with the meds and some just give up regardless.  We have more meds and professionals than ever yet the suicide rate keeps increasing. 

 

Could meds be part of the issue?  I don't know but life can be challenging for young people that are extremely unhealthy in many cases.  Throwing more meds at them isn't the answer and a quick fix that obviously isn't working.  Time and place for everything but meds IMO shouldn't be the default solution.  

 

We need to question the experts and also respect their views.  They do understand more in their fields than us but the no questions allowed attitude is not productive.  It creates frustration and irrational beliefs as this forum exemplifies.

 

 

The wrong medication surely causes problems. I've seen this with a girlfriend who tried one and got worse. The need for a competent, caring doctor who will monitor them along the way and ask how their lives are doing, so they can either stay with the same meds or change them to a more appropriate one is very important. the problem lies in finding one that is caring. The meds are only to alleviate the symptoms, and therapy, helping the person help themselves is more important. The brain and how it works is a very challenging obstacle, and no matter how far advanced they've become, it's still not enough .

 

We're assuming they're suicides, but what percentage of these flights into the void are actually suicides?
Aren't some/many of them "Putin-style" suicides?

Is the suicide rate in Pattaya really that high? And they always do it by jumping into the void.

In the rest of the world, it's rare for people to jump into the void, even in much larger cities, but here it seems to happen almost daily.

News reports about these suicides always end with "the police will investigate the cause of the crash," but then nothing more is heard about it.

 

 

32 minutes ago, Espanol said:

 

We're assuming they're suicides, but what percentage of these flights into the void are actually suicides?
Aren't some/many of them "Putin-style" suicides?

Is the suicide rate in Pattaya really that high? And they always do it by jumping into the void.

In the rest of the world, it's rare for people to jump into the void, even in much larger cities, but here it seems to happen almost daily.

News reports about these suicides always end with "the police will investigate the cause of the crash," but then nothing more is heard about it.

 

 

 

I know two jumpers that were "assisted" suicides..... pays to not piss of shady  people ya dodgy bussiness deals with !

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@Harrisfan

 

It is not appropriate,in a  subject such as this, to troll, flame or make flippant comments.

 

@Cameroni

I would guess that in most instances it's financial desperation, and I would think the secondary reason might be just an inability to cope with the ravages and the inherent indignities within the aging process. 

 

And certainly loneliness might also play a factor. 

9 hours ago, Espanol said:

In the rest of the world, it's rare for people to jump into the void, even in much larger cities, but here it seems to happen almost daily.

 

Many countries keep suicides out of the news

On 10/13/2025 at 12:26 PM, Will B Good said:

 

 

Could be tricky separating out accidents and murders from your data.......pretty there must be some mixed in with the 'suicides'

He hasn't got any data!

11 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I would guess that in most instances it's financial desperation, and I would think the secondary reason might be just an inability to cope with the ravages and the inherent indignities within the aging process. 

 

And certainly loneliness might also play a factor. 

Very interesting your point inability to cope with the ageing process 

But ..."loneliness might play a factor " and many on here say ....how can one be lonely in Pattaya ????

 

But it's very true ...the single farang moves to Pattaya and finds that only company he has (without a wife ) is PAID company,that soon wears off !

 

....next thing he is living in the Flybird condominium or Nirun condominium in a 21sqm room by himself listening to that Lemon tree song by Fools garden everyday !!

Finally he is lonely and depressed ,he can't go back to farangland ,maybe he sold everything 

42 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He hasn't got any data!

That's because I'm still researching!!

Thankyou very much !!!

It takes time as a amateur analyst & to compile  statistical data 

For your information I was the one who published data on how many dentists in Pattaya have the word "Smile " in their name , 

 

27 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Very interesting your point inability to cope with the ageing process 

But ..."loneliness might play a factor " and many on here say ....how can one be lonely in Pattaya ????

 

But it's very true ...the single farang moves to Pattaya and finds that only company he has (without a wife ) is PAID company,that soon wears off !

 

....next thing he is living in the Flybird condominium or Nirun condominium in a 21sqm room by himself listening to that Lemon tree song by Fools garden everyday !!

Finally he is lonely and depressed ,he can't go back to farangland ,maybe he sold everything 

There are a lot of prostitutes living in those dingy buildings as well. He ends up getting frustrated in a small room and paying to bang someone next door all the time, then drinking beer in the room.

 

He can't resist because it's being offered on the doorstep or he is listening to her do it all the time with other residents. It turns into an unescapable situation.

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@Liverpool Lou

36 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

 

For your information I was the one who published data on how many dentists in Pattaya have the word "Smile " in their name , 

Impressive!

On 10/13/2025 at 11:47 AM, georgegeorgia said:

Just read in Pattaya news another suicide by a American man in Jomtien who left a letter of suicide 

 

Absolutely sad this is going on, terrible no counselling is available 

 

But I would like to complete studies & analysis on this ,where could I get a list maybe of Pattaya Suicides on 2025?

I'm only interested in farang/foreigners suicides 

 

Do you personally know of a farang who committed suicide in Pattaya ?

 

They say the people can be acting "normal " days before their suicide some  even in a happy state ?

 

Yes, it is sad.

We are all waiting for news, after the vicious attack by a monkey and later a ladyboy.

The shame must be getting to you 

On 10/13/2025 at 11:47 AM, georgegeorgia said:

Do you personally know of a farang who committed suicide in Pattaya ?

Rob Astbury who sold a lot of Bruno’s 91 storey Jomtien fantasy units with everyone losing their money sadly did.

I don’t think it was depression, more shame and frustration of dealing with so many who lost their life savings.

 

 

On 10/13/2025 at 12:40 PM, georgegeorgia said:

Oh and that's the problem with people like you trying to sweep this tragedy under the carpet !!!

How dare you !

 

We shouldn't be reporting it ?

it's negativity  so we must not talk about it ?

How dare you Sir ,how dare you ,it needs to be spoke about to prevent it 

Someone seems to have lost their handbag 

Maybe the guy ran out of money in pattaya and could not get laid.

 

Imagine sitting around in a small room, watching everyone else walk around with freelancers and partying and not being able to do much.

 

That pretty much leaves stroking your pud in a small fan room and drinking unless he was working or had hobbies. If he went out drinking he was probably flying solo most of the time when he was at a bar if he was a cheapskate. No ladydrinks, etc.

 

Everyone's friendly if they think you have money. When that appears to no longer be the case he may find people tend to "move on" and kind of disappear into the woodwork.