So all indicators point to a worsening economy. It's so bad that not even Fox can hide it! Inflation is up, prices are up, property market in the stink.

And while all this takes place Trump is focusing on the Epstein ballroom. Great work, MAGA fanboys!😆

 

 

 

 

Inflation at 3%. Another win?

 

 

 

 

So true.

 

 

 

 

No one believes the leftist media anymore.  

Where's @Danderman123 when you need him? He and @Lacessit are both Trump economic experts 

The US economy shows signs of resilience and improvement in 2025, with steady growth and low unemployment, though some indicators suggest potential moderation ahead. Real GDP grew at an annualized rate of 3.8% in Q2 2025, and estimates for Q3 range from 2.3% to 3.8%. The unemployment rate stood at 4.3% in August 2025, with September estimates also around 4.3%—up slightly from earlier in the year but still near historic lows. Inflation rose to 3% year-over-year in September, driven partly by energy and food, but remains well below 2022 peaks. Forecasts for full-year 2025 GDP growth have been upgraded to around 1.8%, reflecting stronger-than-expected performance, though risks like tariffs could temper momentum into 2026. Overall, the economy is strengthening relative to earlier recession fears, supported by consumer spending and labor market stability. And the economy is still recovering from the Biden economic disaster.

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No one believes the leftist media anymore.  

So do you now include Fox among the "leftist media"?

Interesting.

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Where's @Danderman123 when you need him? He and @Lacessit are both Trump economic experts 

!0% return in 5 months. Oh the horror.

 

Dow Index

47,207.12

Change

+ 472.51 1.01% 

S&P 500 Index

6,791.69

Change

+ 53.25 0.79% 

NASDAQ Index

23,204.87

Change

+ 263.07 1.15% 

It's silly to link macro economic cycles and problems to a current president to begin with, these issues exist and keep existing until they are solved. Virtually the only solution to that is a major global economic crisis and collapse. 

1 minute ago, novacova said:

The US economy shows signs of resilience and improvement in 2025, with steady growth and low unemployment, though some indicators suggest potential moderation ahead. Real GDP grew at an annualized rate of 3.8% in Q2 2025, and estimates for Q3 range from 2.3% to 3.8%. The unemployment rate stood at 4.3% in August 2025, with September estimates also around 4.3%—up slightly from earlier in the year but still near historic lows. Inflation rose to 3% year-over-year in September, driven partly by energy and food, but remains well below 2022 peaks. Forecasts for full-year 2025 GDP growth have been upgraded to around 1.8%, reflecting stronger-than-expected performance, though risks like tariffs could temper momentum into 2026. Overall, the economy is strengthening relative to earlier recession fears, supported by consumer spending and labor market stability. 

 

So you copy and paste without a link. Dishonest and against forum rules.

 

 

"According to Krugman, the Trump’s economy is experiencing a “K-shaped expansion.”

Essentially, while the economy is growing overall, only the most affluent Americans are actually seeing their wages grow, while middle and lower-income Americans are feeling the pressure of inflation and unemployment."

 

Nobel-Winning Economist Warns Trump’s Economy Is In ‘Worse Shape Than It Looks’

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nobel-winning-economist-warns-trump-164749985.html

3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

!0% return in 5 months. Oh the horror.

 

Dow Index

47,207.12

Change

+ 472.51 1.01% 

S&P 500 Index

6,791.69

Change

+ 53.25 0.79% 

NASDAQ Index

23,204.87

Change

+ 263.07 1.15% 

That's nothing significant if looking at the increased amount of dollars in circulating, which appear to be increased again soon. Like the supply in covid alone doubled it, interesting to know and easy to forget is that the Deutsche bank was about to crash, and then covid came allowing for the biggest print in history.

From this same perspective Bitcoin in reality never really reached a new high since the old 60K high. As money supply is double a price of 120K is the same as 60K before covid. The stupidity is to think one president term changes this reality.

 

Meanwhile wages and pensions are almost the same, and on a next collapse it's the stock markets, house market and pension funds that all crash at once. AKA the big reset in 2030 to then come up with some virtual ID and virtual money only, apparently given straight from central banks to individuals (basic income) + work whatever you work on top or not.

1 minute ago, ChaiyaTH said:

It's silly to link macro economic cycles and problems to a current president to begin with, these issues exist and keep existing until they are solved.

 

Unless someone goes ahead and introduces massive tariffs all across the board. Then it's definitively on the genius who introduced them, right?

2 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

 

Unless someone goes ahead and introduces massive tariffs all across the board. Then it's definitively on the genius who introduced them, right?

It would not change the same problematic outcomes, every measure is just a distraction. Same Thailand tries to fix deficits by introducing the 300b arrival tax etc etc. Fundamental issues persist and only get worse over time. It's a global issue btw, anyone in any country just tries to buy time.

13 minutes ago, novacova said:

The US economy shows signs of resilience and improvement in 2025, with steady growth and low unemployment, though some indicators suggest potential moderation ahead. Real GDP grew at an annualized rate of 3.8% in Q2 2025, and estimates for Q3 range from 2.3% to 3.8%. The unemployment rate stood at 4.3% in August 2025, with September estimates also around 4.3%—up slightly from earlier in the year but still near historic lows. Inflation rose to 3% year-over-year in September, driven partly by energy and food, but remains well below 2022 peaks. Forecasts for full-year 2025 GDP growth have been upgraded to around 1.8%, reflecting stronger-than-expected performance, though risks like tariffs could temper momentum into 2026. Overall, the economy is strengthening relative to earlier recession fears, supported by consumer spending and labor market stability. And the economy is still recovering from the Biden economic disaster.

 

Shame on you for such blatant cherry-picking. 2022 inflation was driven my supply-chain disruption. Inflation now is driven my DT;'s fatuous tariffs. DT knows nothing about economics, and should have left matters to knowledgeable, experienced advisors, not a bunch of toadies and yes-men

7 minutes ago, candide said:

 

 

"According to Krugman, the Trump’s economy is experiencing a “K-shaped expansion.”

Essentially, while the economy is growing overall, only the most affluent Americans are actually seeing their wages grow, while middle and lower-income Americans are feeling the pressure of inflation and unemployment."

 

Nobel-Winning Economist Warns Trump’s Economy Is In ‘Worse Shape Than It Looks’

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nobel-winning-economist-warns-trump-164749985.html

Paul Krugman is a genius.  All his predictions are away true. 

 

The basic point is that the recession of 2001 wasn't a typical postwar slump, brought on when an inflation-fighting Fed raises interest rates and easily ended by a snapback in housing and consumer spending when the Fed brings rates back down again. This was a prewar-style recession, a morning after brought on by irrational exuberance.To fight this recession the Fed needs more than a snapback; it needs soaring household spending to offset moribund business investment. And to do that, as Paul McCulley of Pimco put it, Alan Greenspan needs to create a housing bubble to replace the Nasdaq bubble.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/02/opinion/dubya-s-double-dip.html

The tariffs haven't really started to bite yet. A lot of stock was bought before they were imposed.

 

Inflation will be nearer 4% by the end of the year, jobs numbers crashing and farmers selling up at pennies on the dollar to the Trump billionaires.

 

It's all going to plan.

 

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer (and sicker in the US)

2 minutes ago, nick supreme said:

Paul Krugman is a genius.  All his predictions are away true. 

 

The basic point is that the recession of 2001 wasn't a typical postwar slump, brought on when an inflation-fighting Fed raises interest rates and easily ended by a snapback in housing and consumer spending when the Fed brings rates back down again. This was a prewar-style recession, a morning after brought on by irrational exuberance.To fight this recession the Fed needs more than a snapback; it needs soaring household spending to offset moribund business investment. And to do that, as Paul McCulley of Pimco put it, Alan Greenspan needs to create a housing bubble to replace the Nasdaq bubble.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/02/opinion/dubya-s-double-dip.html

 

An opinion piece written 23 years ago. Well done, buddy. You've really out-trolled yourself this time!

40 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So all indicators point to a worsening economy. It's so bad that not even Fox can hide it! Inflation is up, prices are up, property market in the stink.

And while all this takes place Trump is focusing on the Epstein ballroom. Great work, MAGA fanboys!😆

 

 

 

 

There is delusional thinking, and then there are posts from you...which is beyond delusional thinking.

"On election night, as markets plunged in initial reaction to the Trump victory, Krugman wrote, "If the question is when markets will recover, a first-pass answer is never". The prediction proved incorrect as the market recovered and continued a bull run.

 

 

27 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

 

So you copy and paste without a link. Dishonest and against forum rules.

BLM, talking about Dishonesty and Rules 🤭☺️

31 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So do you now include Fox among the "leftist media"?

Interesting.

Just like you believing CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, and NBC are credible news sources.

15 minutes ago, howlee101 said:

There is delusional thinking, and then there are posts from you...which is beyond delusional thinking.

 

Wow, so impressed by your post. Really killed it with your cold, hard facts!😄

58 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

So all indicators point to a worsening economy

 

Hardly. Stock market just reached a record high.

56 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Inflation at 3%. Another win?

 

Ummm, inflation rose less than expected, so lower than most economists expected.

 

US inflation rose less than expected to 3 per cent in September, paving the way for the Federal Reserve to continue cutting interest rates when it meets next week.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/1d108859-6ad3-467e-84b6-d6c9f3480571

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Hardly. Stock market just reached a record high.

 

Well, that's not good, is it. Stock markets have always seen record highs before every crash all the ways since 1900, buddy.

8 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

 

Wow, so impressed by your post. Really killed it with your cold, hard facts!😄

I try and keep it simple when replying to uneducated minds....and those who flood the forum with anti-Trump posts.

For Bush, but still applies, even more so.

Just now, howlee101 said:

I try and keep it simple when replying to uneducated minds....and those who flood the forum with anti-Trump posts.

I agree that those are two very different groups, and applaud the fact that you try to keep it simple so as to not confuse your MAGA buds!👍

4 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

 

Well, that's not good, is it. Stock markets have always seen record highs before every crash all the ways since 1900, buddy.

 

Hahahahahaha....okay, so if the stock market reaches a record high it's bad news, and if it's low it's bad news...

 

Lol.

 

So what would make you happy, BLM? If all companies are expropriated and handed over to black-feminist collectives?