I've visited Chonburi. You'll be travelling into Pattaya at some point. Though there are interesting stops along the way.

iPhones have an interesting function in that you can track the person wherever they are, if they chose to want you to do so. Maybe when you get closer and get yourself an iPhone, she'll happily allow that state of affairs 😊

Normal with my girls. Nothing to hide, happy to share.

Just now, Cameroni said:

Believe what you want to believe. She worked in a factory before. Facts are facts.

You had no issues posting photo's before to prove PG was real...

Post a photo of her working in a factory then.. You said you have one from her FB page.

Of course you won't because you have a new found respect for her privacy.

1 minute ago, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

I've visited Chonburi. You'll be travelling into Pattaya at some point. Though there are interesting stops along the way.

iPhones have an interesting function in that you can track the person wherever they are, if they chose to want you to do so. Maybe when you get closer and get yourself an iPhone, she'll happily allow that state of affairs 😊

Normal with my girls. Nothing to hide, happy to share.

No need, you can share live location using Whatsapp. I asked her to do so, but she says as she's using the Ipad it's not possible to do so, the option is not there.

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

You had no issues posting photo's before to prove PG was real...

Post a photo of her working in a factory then.. You said you have one from her FB page.

Of course you won't because you have a new found respect for her privacy.

I'm not posting photos of her anymore now, after you and Celsius abused her so viciously and slandered her.

That would be crazy.

Just now, FrankieGoesToHolly said:

I've visited Chonburi. You'll be travelling into Pattaya at some point. Though there are interesting stops along the way.

iPhones have an interesting function in that you can track the person wherever they are, if they chose to want you to do so. Maybe when you get closer and get yourself an iPhone, she'll happily allow that state of affairs 😊

Normal MO with my girls. Nothing to hide.

There are also Apps... Life360 - Wife and I can track our son's phone that way / as well as through the 'FindMy App'...

There is no way PG will ever allow Cam to have such access - she simply cannot have him turning up at 'the bar' and catching her out...

Just now, Cameroni said:

I'm not posting photos of her anymore now, after you and Celsius abused her so viciously and slandered her.

That would be crazy.

She's a 9 remember it doesnt matter what we think - beauty transcends opinion... Feel free to blur out her face (probably better for us).

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No need, you can share live location using Whatsapp. I asked her to do so, but she says as she's using the Ipad it's not possible to do so, the option is not there.

Not same. I mean one can check at anytime.

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

There are also Apps... Life360 - Wife and I can track our son's phone that way / as well as through the 'FindMy App'...

There is no way PG will ever allow Cam to have such access - she simply cannot have him turning up at 'the bar' and catching her out...

Yes, I suggested to put those apps on her phone. She refused.

I'm a bit concerned she is' not sharing location via Whatsapp on the Ipad as I know for a fact it's possible. She may just be too illiterate to use it. I will send a video and see if we can get that done.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No need, you can share live location using Whatsapp. I asked her to do so, but she says as she's using the Ipad it's not possible to do so, the option is not there.

WhatsApp used on her iPad cannot share 'live location' but it can share a 'static location' (current location) and give you a 'pin-point'..

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Yes, I suggested to put those apps on her phone. She refused.

Of course she refused - if she didn't mind if you knew where she is, you'd know already.

6 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I'm a bit concerned she is' not sharing location via Whatsapp on the Ipad as I know for a fact it's possible. She may just be to illiterate to use it. I will send a video and see if we can get that done.

"she may just be be too tech illiterate to use it" - you are making up her BS excuses before she even has a chance to BS you !!... totally cuckold...

20 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

WhatsApp used on her iPad cannot share 'live location' but it can share a 'static location' (current location) and give you a 'pin-point'..

Aaahh, maybe she was trying live location...

18 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Of course she refused - if she didn't mind if you knew where she is, you'd know already.

"she may just be be too tech illiterate to use it" - you are making up her BS excuses before she even has a chance to BS you !!... totally cuckold...

I know where she is now. I have the address.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I know where she is now. I have the address.

Hop on a plane, rent a car at Swampy. I am sure she will be wearing a negligee to greet you at the door. Fun times being in love!!!

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I know where she is now. I have the address.

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 she 'told' you the address... she could have told you anything - did she share her location ?

Is this it ?

15 minutes ago, marin said:

Hop on a plane, rent a car at Swampy. I am sure she will be wearing a negligee to greet you at the door. Fun times being in love!!!

She'll be wearing a negligée alright - or whatever the bar uniform is !! 👙

15 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

she 'told' you the address... she could have told you anything - did she share her location ?

That is indeed the concern. I'm asking her to send videos, share the location and just now to do a video call. I was getting irate saying this is what a girl would do that's with another guy. She just said "Up to you. I told you I'm not, you don't believe".

And then gone. Bad Internet, you see?

Funny 😊

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

That is indeed the concern. I'm asking her to send videos, share the location and just now to do a video call. I was getting irate saying this is what a girl would do that's with another guy. She just said "Up to you. I told you I'm not, you don't believe".

And then gone. Bad Internet, you see?

It’s going to be comedy gold when some forum regular clocks her hanging off a sweaty monger on Soi 6 like a chewing-gum stuck to a table...

... At which point we’ll be treated to another fifty pages of Cameroni's mental gymnastics explaining how she was never a bar girl - just “curious”, “people-watching”.... Much like the last time, when good old Cam defended the honour of Chiang Mai girl, convinced she wasn’t an escort selling the deluxe “girlfriend experience”, but merely offering selective affection… right up until a higher bidder appeared and she vanished like a fart in a hurricane....

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Is yer missus OK Cam ??

Summary.

Cameroni yeeted 25k at a low class escort. He knew the menu, read the fine print, signed. The rest is noise.

Just catching up.

I think it is a critical mistake to try to make yourself indispensable to a woman. You are better off investing in them so they can be more free.

This is where intimacy is built, with a strong person making a weaker person stronger. This creates a bond of loyalty that you keep just missing on by being too emotionally needy.

Most people want to be better, even if they are misguided in their attempts. By trying to be indispensable, that is cutting off their chance to be better

If you are indispensable, then that means you are doing everything. That is not healthy for the long run.

In my new thing with China Christian, I am trying to help her write better business proposals in English.

I read about cheap fingerprint scanners in Burundi. I read the economist, so stuff like this is interesting to me.

I believe that girlfriends should be treated like campgrounds.

You should leave them in better shape than you found them.

On 1/10/2026 at 5:19 PM, Cameroni said:

You can't buy "affection". That would always be very short-lived and ineffectual.

What you can do, is become indispensable. If a financial need arises, you take care of it. You can provide a lifestyle that far surpasses what she is used to and she may get accustomed to it. So you can raise your attraction level with resources, however, it's a double edged sword. Women don't like to ask for money. They don't like to be dependent on a man. And you have to be careful that your "usefulness" does not eclipse real attraction.

That's what I have with Phuket Girl. Real attraction that goes both ways. She's very attracted to me. Because her previous boyfriends were unusually unattractive. She's practicing hypergamy in terms of looks. Climbing up the ladder and getting something better. It is HER who suggests we shower together. It is HER who initiates sex.

Out of the blue, she'd jump on my lap and rub herself all over me and kisses me. These are the hallmarks of a woman who is genuinely attracted. I can tell, because I had the opposite before.

Wrong. I've gone on dates with women who owned their own business. They are just as attracted to me as the poorer women. Because you see, at the outset you DON'T know what her economic status is for sure, and neither does she. So it has happened that I've been on dates with a business woman. A very attractive one I remember too. However, they are always far more difficult.

It's not that I'm not "interested" in affluent women. For me it's about attraction. If they'r wealthy or not doesn't really come into it much. It's just I've noticed that these women tend to be more difficult to please, more demanding and a bit of headache.

I'll give you an example. Phuket Girl is not like that. She is ultra lazy. She'd probably never start her own business. She's a homebody who often even refuses to go out, that's how lazy she is. I love that. You don't have to try so hard.

Well, that's true of course, it does make things a lot easier. Colour me lazy.

Yes, I think women have much better game than men do as a rule. Phuket Girl may be an avoidant, so she is extra interesting and prone to play it cool.

On 1/10/2026 at 5:19 PM, Cameroni said:

Anybody can

On 1/10/2026 at 5:19 PM, Cameroni said:

You can't buy "affection". That would always be very short-lived and ineffectual.

What you can do, is become indispensable. If a financial need arises, you take care of it. You can provide a lifestyle that far surpasses what she is used to and she may get accustomed to it. So you can raise your attraction level with resources, however, it's a double edged sword. Women don't like to ask for money. They don't like to be dependent on a man. And you have to be careful that your "usefulness" does not eclipse real attraction.

That's what I have with Phuket Girl. Real attraction that goes both ways. She's very attracted to me. Because her previous boyfriends were unusually unattractive. She's practicing hypergamy in terms of looks. Climbing up the ladder and getting something better. It is HER who suggests we shower together. It is HER who initiates sex.

Out of the blue, she'd jump on my lap and rub herself all over me and kisses me. These are the hallmarks of a woman who is genuinely attracted. I can tell, because I had the opposite before.

Wrong. I've gone on dates with women who owned their own business. They are just as attracted to me as the poorer women. Because you see, at the outset you DON'T know what her economic status is for sure, and neither does she. So it has happened that I've been on dates with a business woman. A very attractive one I remember too. However, they are always far more difficult.

It's not that I'm not "interested" in affluent women. For me it's about attraction. If they'r wealthy or not doesn't really come into it much. It's just I've noticed that these women tend to be more difficult to please, more demanding and a bit of headache.

I'll give you an example. Phuket Girl is not like that. She is ultra lazy. She'd probably never start her own business. She's a homebody who often even refuses to go out, that's how lazy she is. I love that. You don't have to try so hard.

Well, that's true of course, it does make things a lot easier. Colour me lazy.

Yes, I think women have much better game than men do as a rule. Phuket Girl may be an avoidant, so she is extra interesting and prone to play it cool.

On 1/10/2026 at 5:19 PM, Cameroni said:

You can't buy "affection". That would always be very short-lived and ineffectual.

Then you went on to prove the affection was bought by stating her financial bond with you is why she is staying.

6 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

WhatsApp used on her iPad cannot share 'live location' but it can share a 'static location' (current location) and give you a 'pin-point'..

On an iPhone we can open the 'map app' and then press a single button to share the current location of the sender by mail, messages, WhatsApp, Line etc.

Just enter the person you want to send it to, the receiver just opens the link and there it is, the position drawn on a map.

It can be sent several times to simulate movement.

You have given me an idea for an app to design and write.

It could auto send the current latitude and longitude of the sending phone automatically every minute.

The receiver would get notifications every minute which could be automatically read by the receivers all and the new location could be seen almost in real time.

I could then use the data internally to interface with the map app and it should all work.

It is a lot harder to do that it seems, I know by experience.

But if Phuket-Isaan girl did want to send a WhatsApp message, email link etc and the wifi etc was down, it would automatically send the message of the location to lover-boy's phone as soon as the 'weak' connection had come back, so the times she does get back online the message would have been sent automatically, it is all a pack of obviously lies.

But he does now want to face the facts so is making excuses, she really does have him on the hook and is showing us who really is the boss.

I checked with my partner who is register to vote in the Surat Thani area and I asked her if she would get into trouble for not voting and she said no, as it is not a general election we do not have to vote, no consequences.

This email was intended for @richard_smith237 , it shows what a few beers at nearly midnight can do to oneself. 😀

39 minutes ago, Celsius said:

Summary.

Cameroni yeeted 25k at a low class escort. He knew the menu, read the fine print, signed. The rest is noise.

I don't think he's wedged her in yet...

Thats why she was out-of-there faster than dart a fired by the experienced but leathery flaps of madame Tong !!!

... just like CM girl - as soon as the signs were showing that Casanova-Cam was not even going to fork out for a tea-cup, she was gone like turd in a monsoon gutter...

10 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

Anybody can

On an iPhone we can open the 'map app' and then press a single button to share the current location of the sender by mail, messages, WhatsApp, Line etc.

Just enter the person you want to send it to, the receiver just opens the link and there it is, the position drawn on a map.

It can be sent several times to simulate movement.

Please do not use the word 'stimulate' in this thread - we don't want Cam to get too graphic again !!!

10 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

You have given me an idea for an app to design and write.

It could auto send the current latitude and longitude of the sending phone automatically every minute.

The receiver would get notifications every minute which could be automatically read by the receivers all and the new location could be seen almost in real time.

I could then use the data internally to interface with the map app and it should all work.

It is a lot harder to do that it seems, I know by experience.

It exists already - its called Life360

10 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

But if Phuket-Isaan girl did want to send a WhatsApp message, email link etc and the wifi etc was down, it would automatically send the message of the location to lover-boy's phone as soon as the 'weak' connection had come back, so the times she does get back online the message would have been sent automatically, it is all a pack of obviously lies.

100%

10 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

But he does now want to face the facts so is making excuses, she really does have him on the hook and is showing us who really is the boss.

Play along - its more fun ! Cam is the boss !!! don't you know he has a 'pipeline' of desperate women lined up waiting for his money ?

10 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

I checked with my partner who is register to vote in the Surat Thani area and I asked her if she would get into trouble for not voting and she said no, as it is not a general election we do not have to vote, no consequences.

100% - this was a moment of brilliance by Phuket Girl - just the slightest dash of plausibility for a sucker !!!... clearly very experienced that someone gullible is going to give such rubbish the benefit of the doubt and then use it as 'genuine evidence' of her location.

10 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

This email was intended for @richard_smith237 , it shows what a few beers at nearly midnight can do to oneself. 😀

Pop down to Soi 6 if you are nearby - you can guy his missus a shot of water !!!

18 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

This email was intended for @richard_smith237 , it shows what a few beers at nearly midnight can do to oneself. 😀

This thread is gold really - I know its sad... but I keep on coming back...

... its much better than the anti-vax threads for a good pish-take.

Very different, Phil girl has already 2 phones from you and Phuket girl not even 1.

Phil girl, you want to fly to Phil to get her and fly her into Thailand.

Phuket girl is paying a lot and only gets a grumpy old man

You have a strange way in affection.

11 hours ago, Cameroni said:

That is indeed the concern. I'm asking her to send videos, share the location and just now to do a video call. I was getting irate saying this is what a girl would do that's with another guy. She just said "Up to you. I told you I'm not, you don't believe".

And then gone. Bad Internet, you see?

Oh boy, it seems you are all wrapped around her like a lovesick puppy.

Why would she not call you in front of her aunt? If you are someone special to her, if she sees you as the lottery-win future, she would gladly and proudly introduce you to family and friends. (Unless she can’t because she did this already with someone else. In a traditional Isaan village she can do this once – well, maybe every five years 😋).

This “if you have a problem with me, we can break up” is textbook. Drives the hook even deeper.

Seriously, if you are able to provide a generous allowance every month there are thousands of girls who would be happy and treat you like a king. The way she acts seems not worth the trouble.

Why not ghost her for a change? And see how she reacts?

Like I wrote before, it reminds me a lot of a certain special someone from my past. I’ve witnessed firsthand, how she managed her several sponsors, in fact regularly helped her to write emails. Learned a lot in the process. She was literally riding me while on the phone with others, telling them how “good girl” she was. And good she was indeed. Hilarious. Well, that was way before smartphones, age of Nokia bricks, so no video call possible.

It was amazing how much money she could make. Before we met, she used to work Agogo in Phuket until SARS hit 2003, had a substantial list of former customers she kept in contact with. Mindboggling how much money guys sent to her and she did not even need to spread her legs. And the sob stories she could generate. Just wow.

Back to your girl – I don’t say it’s impossible that she could in fact be a gem and only had 5 guys instead of 5km. No tattoos, no kids (stretch marks?), no drugs etc. – there is a shimmer of hope. But everything else you disclosed here sounds a lot like she is a skilled operator. Focus on the facts you KNOW and can VERIFY and not the things she told you and you can’t check.

In any case...good luck!

10 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Is yer missus OK Cam ??

She doesn't use Botox, you cut price Clown, she was blessed with naturally full and luscious lips, she did the opposite opt for a lip reduction.

9 hours ago, Prubangboy said:

Just catching up.

I think it is a critical mistake to try to make yourself indispensable to a woman. You are better off investing in them so they can be more free.

This is where intimacy is built, with a strong person making a weaker person stronger. This creates a bond of loyalty that you keep just missing on by being too emotionally needy.

Most people want to be better, even if they are misguided in their attempts. By trying to be indispensable, that is cutting off their chance to be better

If you are indispensable, then that means you are doing everything. That is not healthy for the long run.

In my new thing with China Christian, I am trying to help her write better business proposals in English.

I read about cheap fingerprint scanners in Burundi. I read the economist, so stuff like this is interesting to me.

I believe that girlfriends should be treated like campgrounds.

You should leave them in better shape than you found them.

When I said you can become indispensable, that was in reference to a poster claiming you can control women with money, which, as we all know, is wrong. So whilst you can't control a woman you can do things that make you more attractive, such as becoming indispensable in various ways, richer, better looking, more high status, more competent, etc.

However, even if you do that, it is not a guarantee of anything, it just increases your attractiveness, so your starting point becomes relevant.

I have a friend in CM who is indispensable to his Thai wife and indeed her whole family. In fact his becoming indispensable and him investing in her are more or less the same thing. He is quite wealthy and gave her so much money she's become a landlord with people working on her land. When she got very, very sick, he paid for expensive treatment that ensured she stays alive. He built a house for her father, he's literally taking care of the entire family.

This has not given him control in any way. However, it has ensured that his bond with the wife continues. The way she treated him if he had not become indispensable, if he had not invested in her they probably would have split up. Their relationship is not great, more like a deep friendship than real love in the traditional sense. By becoming indispensable and investing in her, he managed to keep the bond alive, albeit in a degraded way, but the relationship is not great. So there are no guarantees.

Even if you do both, if you become indispensable AND you invest in her, she may well cheat on you. It is actually no guarantee of loyalty. The only guarantee of loyalty is passionate love, ie she passionately desires you and thinks you're her best option in EVERY way, not just financially. Women are complex and holistic, like us, they don't just care about a few things, they care about a lot of things. Like us.

You're absolutely right that there is a danger in doing TOO MUCH, for the simple reason that YOU will start to feel too entitled, you gave so much, so now you can make a withdrawal, you can ask for this and that. Because you did so much. There's obviously an inherent danger in this.

Ultimately almost all women you meet will be better off by having been with you. Not just due to any financial benefits, think of all the experiences you provided. The only time they become worse off is if you leave and withdraw your benefits maybe. Excluding criminal, psychopathic and other male abberations of course.

Thai girl was totally shemeles