1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

because you appear oblivious to the narcissistic and controlling behavior you displayed.

 

Fine, I can't ask my girlfriend to go on a walk outside with me. Okay.

 

Ask by all means - but don't throw a tantrum because another person doesn't want to do what you want all the time...  

... Thats a basic level of maturity you seem to be missing.

 

 

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

who'd lay in bed all day and watch TikTok - make your mind up.

 

She was literally on the couch just now watching Tiktok on her Ipad. If I hadn't set up a profile on on my four laptops for her and introduced her to microsoft, she'd still be watching TikTok. At least now she's learning something useful.

 

If controlling is for the better, is it really bad?

 

"at least now she's learning something useful"...   

 

... obviously you are oblivious to your own narcism - Its bad that you have to even ask !!!...      

 

... are you going to put her on specific food diet next.. then make her work out in the gym to strengthen up ?

 

 

 

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

but don't throw a tantrum because another person doesn't want to do what you want all the time...  

 

I didn't "Throw a tantrum". I just told her in firm terms to be ready in 10 minutes. Which she did not appreciate.

 

I won't even bother tomorrow. I jokingly told her she has to go cycle one hour tomorrow morning. She took it well.

 

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

.. are you going to put her on specific food diet next.. then make her work out in the gym to strengthen up ?

 

 

Actually our diets are beautifully in sync, sort of, and she eats anything. That will all be fine.

16 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

There will always be conflicts, it would be silly to pretend there will never be any.

 

We've resolved both issues now.

 

No you haven't... 

 

You are controlling and want her to do what you want to do - you think she is weak, needs sunlight and strengthening up.. 

 

She wants to improve her appearance (in her view) her, ex paid for previous plastic surgery - you are clearly being lined up for more 'costs'...

 

Issues are not resolved - they've hardly started.

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

You are controlling and want her to do what you want to do - you think she is weak, needs sunlight and strengthening up.

 

Perhaps mildly, but not to my benefit, to hers...

 

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

She wants to improve her appearance (in her view) her, ex paid for previous plastic surgery - you are clearly being lined up for more 'costs'...

 

Well, I made clear in no uncertain terms I am massively against plastic surgery on her nose, and God forbid, her perfect breasts.

 

I find this desire for plastic surgery rather strange. It's pure vanity. She cares exceptionally much what others think of her.

4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Issues are not resolved - they've hardly started.

 

The plastic surgery demon raised its ugly head and I cut off of its head forcefully and without mercy.

 

She's back to singing in the living room now. 

 

Sometimes a bit of drama is a good thing. As is showing a firm hand.

 

This has all worked out very well.

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She won't even tell you her age - how can you believe anything she says ?

 

Don't be ridiculous. She even showed me her Thai ID card. She changed track on that one very quickly.

 

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

BTW: she's obviously Mid to late 30's - so if she tells you she's 25, she's lying.

 

Lol, all the armchair experts, I've seen her Thai ID card. Born in 2001.

 

Wow - she must have had a very tough paper round... 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

She took money from boyfriends

 

Perfectly normal, every girl does that.

 

Interesting perspective - All girls will 'stay with you for money' but they are not freelancers - got it.

 

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

she has slept with you within hours of meeting you for the first time

 

Not just that, but her gusto and pleasure in doing it I have to say were unusual.

 

Nothing unusual for an industry girl...

 

Quite unusual for a girl who's claimed to have 3 sexual partners.

 

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

12 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

When she asks you for money - what will she be then ? - Not a freelancer but a paid for girlfriend, right ?

 

Girlfriends need help with their finances, and ask for money, it's normal, she'll still be a girlfriend.

 

 

Your version of 'normal' seems very 'pay for play' orientated... 

 

Having been here for nearly 30 years - I never gave any girlfriend money...   they had their own income.

 

 

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

The plastic surgery demon raised its ugly head and I cut off of its head forcefully and without mercy.

 

She's back to singing in the living room now. 

 

Sometimes a bit of drama is a good thing. As is showing a firm hand.

 

This has all worked out very well.

 

"cut off its head forcefully"

 

"Showing a firm hand"

 

Yup - narcissistic alright...      you think its working out well - you are already instilling resentment and you are completely unaware.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

YOU are the one being tested.... 

 

You're absolutely right on this one. She just moaned "I'm hungreeee".

 

Me: "But you just ate? Really?"

 

She: "Yes".

 

Me "I can cook now".

 

She: "I'm joooooking"..

 

God give me strength.

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I find this desire for plastic surgery rather strange. It's pure vanity. She cares exceptionally much what others think of her.

 

Bigger boobs = bigger income...           

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Wow - she must have had a very tough paper round... 

 

Comment of the day!

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Quite unusual for a girl who's claimed to have 3 sexual partners.

 

 

I'm not gonna lie. That has me worried. Her sexually liberated habit and manner are unlike anything I've seen before.

 

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Your version of 'normal' seems very 'pay for play' orientated... 

 

Not at all. I avoid that. But given the economic disparity, it always happens they need some sort of help. Which is fine. Your implications are silly. Even in the West my ex-wife got household money ,until she got a good job from my law firm. If the girlfriend has a need, you fix it. It's just common courtesy.

She's back to her sweetest self now. Just asked for snacks. Me "what kind of snacks?"...She "Everything".

 

So I got out the salted peanuts, popcorn, grapes, banans, cocount cake, coffe cake, banana cake, Toblerone, Snap, Twix...

 

And got a deep wet french kiss and hug as reward.

 

Thank God it's back to normal.

13 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

she must have had a very tough paper round... 

 

She's from Isaan. They're rough around the edges. But soft in the centre.

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Quite unusual for a girl who's claimed to have 3 sexual partners.

 

 

I'm not gonna lie. That has me worried. Her sexually liberated habit and manner are unlike anything I've seen before.

 

Sensible that you mentioned HIV testing.

 

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

9 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Your version of 'normal' seems very 'pay for play' orientated... 

 

Not at all. I avoid that. But given the economic disparity, it always happens they need some sort of help. Which is fine. Your implications are silly. Even in the West my ex-wife got household money ,until she got a good job from my law firm. If the girlfriend has a need, you fix it. It's just common courtesy.

 

Given the 'economic disparity'  you are choosing females who are younger and who will be with you more out of a financial security than a truly emotional attachment.

 

And... my implications are far from silly - they are fact and representative of every relationship I know of here (personally) - with friends who are dating / married to women of similar socio-economic status - they have their own work, their own financial independence...   The only time this changes is when 'children' are born and the Wife will give up work to look after the child. 

 

["If the girlfriend has a need you fix it" ] - thats a very polished way of saying you are paying for a girlfriend - you are pulling the wool over you own eyes... 

 

... It fine - if thats the way things work for you - but  its not 'a common courtesy' - its paying for a partner who is with with you for money - so call a spade a spade.

 

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Sensible that you mentioned HIV testing.

 

Yes, I'm going to a clinic tomorrow to her get her tested. Just to be on the safe side. Not that I expect anything is wrong, or that she was a freelancer or bargirl, but I just want to make sure.

 

11 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Given the 'economic disparity'  you are choosing females who are younger and who will be with you more out of a financial security than a truly emotional attachment.

 

No, no, no, these young girls develop MAJOR and I do mean very MAJOR emotional attachments. In part, not all of course. But I do try to weed out anyone who's just looking for financial security as that is a major turn off for me. But as these girls are so young, it would be foolish to expect them to have a similar economic purchasing power, so you do end up helping out. But I make a very hard effort to eliminate those only interested in financial improvement.

13 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

thats a very polished way of saying you are paying for a girlfriend - you are pulling the wool over you own eyes..

 

No, I think you are pulling the wool over your own eyes if you start pretending that you or your friends do not pay for your girlfriends because they have jobs. I don't believe that for a second. Like I said, my wife had an excellent job in a law firm, paying 60000 USD per year, and I stil ended up paying the mortgage, food etc, so even when you don't pay a direct allowance anymore, you stil pay. I doubt you and your friend are different in this regard.

 

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

its not 'a common courtesy' - its paying for a partner who is with with you for money - so call a spade a spade.

 

No, you're not calling a spade a spade, you're calling a spade a fork. What you are saying is false. You can pay a partner and help them financially. It does not mean they are with you for money. One does not imply the other.

A comment on moderation was removed. Please stay on topic. Thank you. 

Glad to say, happy hug and kiss time is back now.

 

54 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Yes, I'm going to a clinic tomorrow to her get her tested. Just to be on the safe side. Not that I expect anything is wrong, or that she was a freelancer or bargirl, but I just want to make sure.

 

check for everything......including chlamydia

So I'm sitting on the couch with her. She starts french kissing and moves her glutes on top of my crotch and starts bouncing up and down gently. Sits on top of me, deep french kissing.

 

Then sits next to me again and puts her hand inside my trousers and does what is done in some massage shops, quite expertly.

 

I am  really concerned about this. I've never had any girl be this sexual, out of her own initiative. It's off the charts. I had to tear myself away because I have to work.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, I'm going to a clinic tomorrow to her get her tested. Just to be on the safe side. Not that I expect anything is wrong, or that she was a freelancer or bargirl, but I just want to make sure.

 

 

No, no, no, these young girls develop MAJOR and I do mean very MAJOR emotional attachments. In part, not all of course. But I do try to weed out anyone who's just looking for financial security as that is a major turn off for me. But as these girls are so young, it would be foolish to expect them to have a similar economic purchasing power, so you do end up helping out. But I make a very hard effort to eliminate those only interested in financial improvement.

 

Major attachment because they are so attracted to the potential security... 

 

 

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

No, I think you are pulling the wool over your own eyes if you start pretending that you or your friends do not pay for your girlfriends because they have jobs. I don't believe that for a second. Like I said, my wife had an excellent job in a law firm, paying 60000 USD per year, and I stil ended up paying the mortgage, food etc, so even when you don't pay a direct allowance anymore, you stil pay. I doubt you and your friend are different in this regard.

 

You don't believe it because it seems so far removed from your exposure here - it's not abnormal for couple here to be financial independent at least at the early stages of a relationship.

 

The relationships I'm describing are closer to the Western approach - they have not originated with an underlying financial disparity.

When dating a poor girl half their age - a person would be foolish to believe attraction is a primary drive, it's likely barely a tolerance of the other person & a lot of acting... 

 

In the UK friends & family do not start a relationship with financial expectations (in most cases) - that's the same with the relationships I see here...  Obviously once children are on the scene that changes & financial responsibility evolves... 

...But that is a very far cry from a poor girl dating an old girl.. & that's fine, o judgement if both are happy - but it is comical to see a guy oblivious & thinking the girl has not made a conscious decision underlined by financial need... 

 

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

No, you're not calling a spade a spade, you're calling a spade a fork. What you are saying is false. You can pay a partner and help them financially. It does not mean they are with you for money. One does not imply the other.

 

One does not imply the other - except for when it does !!! 

33 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Major attachment because they are so attracted to the potential security... 

 

Yes, I'm sure you can remote-diagnose why a girl gets attached emotionally in a particular relationsihp. Without knowing full facts. Always a good idea.

 

33 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

You don't believe it because it seems so far removed from your exposure here -

 

No, again, this claim "I don't pay for my girlfriend" has been made a lot of times on here, and each time you scratch the surface turns out the guy is paying her food, rent or holidays. I'm almost certain it's the same with you and your friends. But this discussion has been done to death and is ultra tedious now.  The reality is EVERYONE goes into a relationship because they want something. In the case of women, it's almost always money, in the case of men sex. Perhaps in your case your gf/wife, did not want any money from you, and this is the case for all your friends, perhaps you don't want sex from your gf either. Maybe you're a very special and likeable person. There's a lot of those on AN.

 

33 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

The relationships I'm describing are closer to the Western approach

 

It's a total fantasy that these things are different in the West. It is the norm for wives to get household money in the West, it's no different, if the wife works and doesn' t get an allowance, the husband still pays the mortgage, food, holidays, always assuming he makes more money. There's actually not much difference between the West and Thailand in this regard.

 

There's always financial disparity. It's extremely unlikely both partners earn exactly the same. West or Thailand.

 

33 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

but it is comical to see a guy oblivious & thinking the girl has not made a conscious decision underlined by financial need... 

 

It's comical to see a guy who thinks this is not the case in the west. But the key here is "underline" the financial  aspects are NEVER EVER the key or sole aspect. Unless she's a whore of course.

 

33 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

One does not imply the other - except for when it does !!! 

 

That's what I'm saying it CAN imply it, but NEED not imply it. I was with a woman for 23 years and helped her out financially no end. She stayed with me in the hospital to sleep there  and ensure I was well taken care of when I had my gall bladder removed. She proved beyond any shred of doubt that she was loving and loyal, not for money, but as a matter of course. So your claim that when you pay a woman she is only there because of money is obviously false. Now, would she have been there if the underlying financial framework had not been to her benefit, unlikely, but that does not mean that they are with you "for money". That's a big leap. A non-countenanced unbalanced and unsophisticated argument that ignores that women are about much more than money. No woman ever said "He wears a Gucci shirt, I must marry him".

You are 54, she is way younger 24, you could be her dad !

SO dont try to behave like a dad and force her to do things, like the walk.

YOU want it, she doesnt, only if she wants. You force her now like a child, she is an ADULT !

Adults have understandings. SO grow up and treat her right.

She already told you, she is lazy.

Told you , from anti conception, she can have moodswings.

 

A woman, who is craving for food, is the devil. You witnessed now, keep putting food in it.

You can do later eating? SHE DOESNT, CANT and it will show ! It is a women's fact !

 

Testing for HIV is a little bit too late now, you poked her already all weekend.

If she is tested positive, you could also end up with same, Incredible you dont know.

You were thinking with the wrong head.

 

You changed your attitude? More domination? You didnt do with CM girl, but looks you do now.

DOnt forget , she is an adult ! NOT your daughter.

Dont forget Thai culture, a Thai woman doesnt want to be brown ! White, It is status !

I think a CM girl would refuse you as well  in doing walks outside, almost any Thai woman.

You are somehow grumpy , as you keep on with your "old" contacts? Non focussed on PG.

You should be the experienced adult, as you are older, normally. But do and are you?

Patience, as you DONT know her, it has been only 3 days, learn.

 

 

52 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

A woman, who is craving for food, is the devil. You witnessed now, keep putting food in it.

You can do later eating? SHE DOESNT, CANT and it will show ! It is a women's fact !

 

Yes, her not having eaten made the difference. After she ate, what a difference, things got back to normal fairly quickly.

 

52 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Testing for HIV is a little bit too late now, you poked her already all weekend.

If she is tested positive, you could also end up with same, Incredible you dont know.

You were thinking with the wrong head.

 

Yes. but she came on very strong on the first day. But it will be good to have confirmation that she is clean. Which I suspect she is.

 

53 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Dont forget Thai culture, a Thai woman doesnt want to be brown ! White, It is status !

 

I offered sun cream!

 

53 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

You are somehow grumpy , as you keep on with your "old" contacts? Non focussed on PG.

 

Well, it's been three days. Okay, two of those were amazing. But today I saw Thunderclouds.

 

54 minutes ago, xtrnuno41 said:

Patience, as you DONT know her, it has been only 3 days, learn.

 

Yes, patience will be required here, I can see that already.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Major attachment because they are so attracted to the potential security... 

 

Yes, I'm sure you can remote-diagnose why a girl gets attached emotionally in a particular relationsihp. Without knowing full facts. Always a good idea.

 

You've put so much out there about the 'girls' and yourself - the opinions on this thread about your relationship are far from 'remote' - the readers of this forum have arguably been sullied to the extend we should also be joining you at the clinic tomorrow !!! 

 

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

You don't believe it because it seems so far removed from your exposure here -

 

No, again, this claim "I don't pay for my girlfriend" has been made a lot of times on here, and each time you scratch the surface turns out the guy is paying her food, rent or holidays. I'm almost certain it's the same with you and your friends. But this discussion has been done to death and is ultra tedious now.  The reality is EVERYONE goes into a relationship because they want something. In the case of women, it's almost always money, in the case of men sex. Perhaps in your case your gf/wife, did not want any money from you, and this is the case for all your friends, perhaps you don't want sex from your gf either. Maybe you're a very special and likeable person. There's a lot of those on AN.

 

This is the stock rebuttal from men who simply can’t accept that some / many of us date women here exactly as we would in the West - without stipends, allowances, or covert sponsorships.

 

You’re pretending that meeting a financially independent woman - someone who can stand on her own and chooses a partner out of desire, not survival - is the same as meeting someone living on the breadline. It isn’t remotely comparable.

 

When a woman is extremely poor, her choices are understandably shaped by security first. Affection may grow afterwards, yes. That doesn’t make her a bad person - it makes her human. But let’s not kid ourselves: that dynamic is fundamentally different, and sometimes undeniably mercenary.

 

The issue isn’t that such arrangements exist. It’s pretending they’re identical to relationships formed between two people who don’t need each other for money or basic survival. That’s the delusion - its one you can't seem to see beyond.

 

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

The relationships I'm describing are closer to the Western approach

 

It's a total fantasy that these things are different in the West. It is the norm for wives to get household money in the West, it's no different, if the wife works and doesn' t get an allowance, the husband still pays the mortgage, food, holidays, always assuming he makes more money. There's actually not much difference between the West and Thailand in this regard.

 

There's always financial disparity. It's extremely unlikely both partners earn exactly the same. West or Thailand.

 

You’re jumping ahead to full relationships, where a man covering most costs is usually just about earnings, family roles, or shared life - perfectly normal. But that’s nothing like paying a girlfriend 20–30,000 baht a month simply to be your girlfriend.

 

No one in the UK pays their partner £500 a month as a standard fee for companionship and then pretends it’s “normal”. It isn’t. It’s only been normalised in Thailand because many Western men sponsor women who are financially vulnerable...

... and that’s fine if both parties are happy - but let’s not pretend it resembles the emotional dynamics of a typical relationship. In this setup, the money isn’t incidental; it’s the foundation. That alone puts it in a completely different category.

 

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

but it is comical to see a guy oblivious & thinking the girl has not made a conscious decision underlined by financial need... 

 

It's comical to see a guy who thinks this is not the case in the west. But the key here is "underline" the financial  aspects are NEVER EVER the key or sole aspect. Unless she's a whore of course.

 

Agreed - but the real question is this: was the financial aspect the kicker? Was it a deciding factor in her choice to enter into that relationship? And more pointedly, does the financial incentive carry far more weight than emotional or physical attraction?

 

Perhaps the lines are blurred - there may well be some overlap. But that blur only exists because the financial element is so central to the arrangement. In what we’d call a normal relationship - setting aside the occasional gold-digger - those lines are not blurred at all. Emotional connection, shared values, mutual attraction and compatibility form the core. Financial support may exist, but it is not the entry ticket, nor the underlying motivation.

 

In contrast, when a young woman engages with an older man who pays her from the outset, the financial component isn’t incidental - it’s structural. It frames the dynamic before emotions even have a chance to take root. To treat it as though it carries the same emotional weight as a relationship formed without that economic imbalance is, again, a distortion of reality.

 

Yes, humans are complex. Yes, people can care for one another even within transactional arrangements. But that doesn’t erase the fact that the primary lever in such a relationship is financial, not emotional. And that alone places it in an entirely different category from relationships where attraction and affection come first and money, if it matters at all, comes much later.

 

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

One does not imply the other - except for when it does !!! 

 

That's what I'm saying it CAN imply it, but NEED not imply it. I was with a woman for 23 years and helped her out financially no end. She stayed with me in the hospital to sleep there  and ensure I was well taken care of when I had my gall bladder removed. She proved beyond any shred of doubt that she was loving and loyal, not for money, but as a matter of course. So your claim that when you pay a woman she is only there because of money is obviously false. Now, would she have been there if the underlying financial framework had not been to her benefit, unlikely, but that does not mean that they are with you "for money". That's a big leap. A non-countenanced unbalanced and unsophisticated argument that ignores that women are about much more than money. No woman ever said "He wears a Gucci shirt, I must marry him".

 

When you met the woman who became your partner for twenty-three years, she was - I’m quite certain - already financially independent. Her decision to be with you wasn’t shaped or swayed by any financial security you might have offered. The emotional dynamic there is worlds apart from that of a woman half a man’s age who, by sheer circumstance, will almost inevitably depend on him financially. In those arrangements, a financial stipend isn’t a by-product of the relationship - it’s part of the foundation from the very beginning. It’s woven into the unspoken contract.

 

If you genuinely can’t see that the difference isn’t subtle, isn’t nuanced, but absolutely glaring, then you’re deluding yourself by trying to frame these two situations as versions of the same emotional process. They’re not. One sits firmly on the transactional end of the spectrum, where companionship is intertwined with economic support. The other is built on something far less conditional, far less contingent, and far more emotionally autonomous.

 

To pretend the two are equivalent is to ignore power dynamics, agency, and the very different motivations at play. And that’s not insight - it’s convenient blindness.

22 hours ago, Cameroni said:

She never worked in bar. 

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

But it will be good to have confirmation that she is clean.

 

 

No further comment required....     

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

In what we’d call a normal relationship - setting aside the occasional gold-digger - those lines are not blurred at all. Emotional connection, shared values, mutual attraction and compatibility form the core.

 

Well said , RS .     I would say that even in a great percentage of "normal relationships", that "core"  is not always what the couple have prioritized .   There are many factors that go into "what went wrong"  , meaning the 50% or so of relationships that go sour. The list is too long to start naming.   "Things/People change "  is often offered as the reason.

 

Probably those "things"  were there from the start.   Just not recognized, or considered to be a major detriment .   

 

Those who somehow find that core : "Emotional connection, shared values, mutual attraction and compatibility "........ have a 99% better chance for a continuing happy relationship , especially when compared to one's that start out with "how much?"

 

4 minutes ago, rumak said:

 

Well said , RS .     I would say that even in a great percentage of "normal relationships", that "core"  is not always what the couple have prioritized .   There are many factors that go into "what went wrong"  , meaning the 50% or so of relationships that go sour. The list is too long to start naming.   "Things/People change "  is often offered as the reason.

 

Probably those "things"  were there from the start.   Just not recognized, or considered to be a major detriment .   

 

Those who somehow find that core : "Emotional connection, shared values, mutual attraction and compatibility "........ have a 99% better chance for a continuing happy relationship , especially when compared to one's that start out with "how much?"

 

 

Indeed, & I’m certainly not here to judge those who are happy in relationships with women who have made the sensible choice of prioritising security. It’s entirely understandable - especially if both parties are respectful, genuinely happy, and under no illusions, then why not?

 

But those who refuse to acknowledge the simple reality - and delude themselves into thinking that financial vulnerability isn’t central when they are paying a “monthly girlfriend fee,” even suggesting it’s the same as paying a mortgage - are profoundly mistaken.

 

It’s naive, almost child-like, yet in a strangely perverse way. The transactional element in such arrangements cannot simply be ignored.

 

Of course, the OP will insist he hasn’t paid anything.....                                 Yet…

 

 

We’ve already seen the hot-and-cold spats and the silent treatment surfaced far sooner than anyone would expect - Phuket girl is on fast track mode now she's realised the Op might be gullible...   

 

Either the monetary demand is coming next, or the same cycles of surliness will continue with increasing frequency until the relationship breaks down and Cameroni ends up posting about how “CM girl wouldn’t have done this” or how a non-virgin claiming virginity from the Philippines would never have betrayed his feelings like this...   

 

 

 

8 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Glad to say, happy hug and kiss time is back now.

 

 

In  Cameroni world 3 is 8, but in normal world this is called being CATFISHED

16 hours ago, Cameroni said:

but he was impressed with her photos, not the ones I posted here, but much better ones admittedly,

 

You send pictures of the prostitutes you are dating to your father? Weird.

 

But no one believes for a moment you would not post the absolute best picture on the forum that already judges you and thinks you are a joke.

 

However, if you you are happy with the face that looks like where collagen goes to retire then more power to you. You are taking one for the team 🙄 

 

 

8 hours ago, Cameroni said:

I am  really concerned about this. I've never had any girl be this sexual, out of her own initiative. It's off the charts. I had to tear myself away because I have to w̶o̶r̶k̶ update the forum.