3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No, abuse the child, create an abuser.

 

Exactly, they try to justify it by saying their mum did it to them.

 

And when everyone in the village does it, it seems normal 

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

I did the same thing most men do , especially to women here. Have you seen what Thai women look like outside the bar environment? Attraction does all men in, and most don't marry a childhood sweetheart or virgin.

Most men do not marry women who have children to other men.

As their stepfather do you help raise them? 
What is her career?

1 minute ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Exactly, they try to justify it by saying their mum did it to them.

 

And when everyone in the village does it, it seems normal 

Yes, and from what I've seen living here 7 years, many hit their kids, and a lot carry sticks. And her teacher's from here.

1 hour ago, ChaiyaTH said:

You talk a lot of BS, I got it myself last year without issues and met many others in the progress (trough my lawyer, at the court and outside). They all won like me. It is about what is best for the child, it has zero to do with the parents or parent being a foreigner.

 

It was actually this freaking forum that made me delay that move, as everyone claims ghost stories and that it can't be done. It also costed just 30K.

Abolutely correct most of the above statements are completely incorrect.

1 hour ago, connda said:

The concept of "kidnapping" your own child is nonsense.  It's his child too and he deserves to be able to raise that child.  The court system is 100% biased and he'll never obtain custody here.  Taking the child back to his home country and then lawyering up to the max is probably the best outcome for the child. 

Not quite so, many Thai courts if both are responsible parents tend to award the son to the mother in the expectation that the son could grow to protect the mother from  a new abusive husband, while daughters tend to be placed with the father who will hopefully protector her , gather than a new husband of the mother. Simple thinking but that often is the case.

Also as others have stated the Thai children courts do tend to look at who would be the best parent for the child.

It’s also been shown throughout the years that a negligent mother in Thailand will be open to a financial agreement to relinquish her right to the child.

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

Most men do not marry women who have children to other men.

As their stepfather do you help raise them? 
What is her career?

Malcolm, again, you know nothing about families with children, nor about the children themselves, so why ask? Her first daughter was living with a man, her eventual husband, at 14. Her second daughter was 5 when I met her, and her dad didn't care. When I moved here, she put her daughter with grandma 1/2 kilo away because she didn't want to take care of her. She is now living with the first daughter. My daughter told me last week, her sister, the second daughter, wants to live with me, as she was close to me when I was married to her mom, but "don't tell mom I said that". Now this time try to remember so you don't twist this around later.

11 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Most men do not marry women who have children to other men.

As their stepfather do you help raise them? 
What is her career?

 

Have you ever actually dated in Thailand?

How old are you?

Unless you're 25 and getting 20 year old girls, a lot of Thai women (most) are divorced with children. 

 

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Have you ever actually dated in Thailand?

How old are you?

Unless you're 25 and getting 20 year old girls, a lot of Thai women (most) are divorced with children. 

 

Single mother families in Thailand are the majority. In the US it's 21%.

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

 

I would tend to believe this.

 

 

If indeed this character has simply taken a small child without permission from its mother (who in Thailand has 100% custodial rights), a child who appears to have not even met him in the past, then he has proven himself unfit to be a parent.

49 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Bald and overweight 

Weeell, it would seem that is why you have to use those girlie venues for your willy exercise....😘

9 hours ago, thesetat said:

The story header is quite misleading by not stating he is the paternal father. He has just as much right to the child as the mother does. To claim he took her child is wrong. 

I do not and hope the police do not get involved in this other than setting up a custody hearing to settle who gets custody. 

Although the drug charge for the foreigner previously should not affect the custody settlement drastically. it may affect his visa status if true. 

 

You've never been thru custody with children in the courts then... 

 

But I see someone else has tried to point you in the right direction. 

 

What a father/husband thinks is fair or common sense isn't usually the way it goes.   

 

She has the legal rights on her side.  

2 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Were you married to this woman at the time or was the child born out of wedlock?

Married

1 minute ago, MalcolmB said:

Similar situation to yourself.

Do you get along with the kids real father? 
I think it is important that you make the effort for the sake of the children’s mental health.

It is hard enough as it is if they are from a broken home.

One day you may well find out yourself, when you eventually find a soulmate, but you are leaving it a bit late, cobber.........🤫

4 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Similar situation to yourself.

Do you get along with the kids real father? 
I think it is important that you make the effort for the sake of the children’s mental health.

It is hard enough as it is if they are from a broken home.

Fishing again for your files and dribbling, I see.......

3 hours ago, Vlada Floric said:

Why is she reaching out to the "community" whatever that is. If anyone took my kid the first people I would be pestering is the cops!

Thai law gives parental rights to the parent that has the child.

Snatching by one parent from the other is entirely normal.

The Thai police will have nothing to do with these sort of domestic disputes.

13 minutes ago, MalcolmB said:

Similar situation to yourself.

Do you get along with the kids real father? 
I think it is important that you make the effort for the sake of the children’s mental health.

It is hard enough as it is if they are from a broken home.

Seeing you've mentioned "broken home" so many times, possibly thinking it's a prerequisite for future bad behavior, I can ask you a few questions, seeing you're always wanting to know what other people are doing in their lives.

 

Firstly, coming from an intact or broken home is no guarantee of future adult behavior. Many come from intact homes and are abusive, neglective, narcissistic, cheating,lying manipulators that damage others. Some come from broken homes and end up being good dads and partners, which is my case. And everything in between, as no one thing makes a person's habits.

 

Are you from a broken home? If not, then why do you buy women all the time and drive drunk and think it's okay? Obviously how an adult acts mirrors their upbringing, unless they really step aside and realize it might have not been good. The main things about how a child acts in adulthood is how they related to their parents, especially the father.

 

A girl growing up without a father, or with an abusive and neglective one, will look at herself as a victim, used and taken for granted, because either her dad wasn't good to her, or wasn't around while she was growing up. A boy is much the same, but will tend to look at women as objects, especially if his dad did or if he also wasn't around, looked to his dopey peers on how to treat women.

 

Seeing you look at women as objects, where did you learn this?

 

Why do you keep getting involved with other members who are married and have children if you haven't been married and have no children? Do you know if a man isn't married by the time he's 35, there's something ingrained in him about women. Misogynist thinking, or fear or hatred of them if he hated his own mom. Let us know where your thinking originated. 

I don’t think the views of the online community, including this forum, are relevant because none of them know the whole story, nor which if any accusations and counter accusations are true.

 

Clearly there needs to be an unbiased review by the relevant authorities to assess what is best for THE CHILD.

 

Whether that ever happens in Thailand and if there is an established process in place, I have no idea.

 

Meantime it seems possession is 9/10ths of the law. 

This woman actually has HIV and worked at the bar in Pattaya. Don’t know why these important details are missing in Aseannow report.

1 minute ago, wensiensheng said:

I don’t think the views of the online community, including this forum, are relevant because none of them know the whole story, nor which if any accusations and counter accusations are true.

 

Clearly there needs to be an unbiased review by the relevant authorities to assess what is best for THE CHILD.

 

Whether that ever happens in Thailand and if there is an established process in place, I have no idea.

 

Meantime it seems possession is 9/10ths of the law. 

True, in Thailand who has the child in possession has them, and if they take off, the other parent has to go looking. In most other countries, it's parental kidnapping, where the kidnapper will lose the child, custody, be jailed and have limited visitation afterwards. The courts here are supposed to put the child where it's best interests are served, but they usually give the child to the mother, no matter how screwed up she might be. In the west, they look a lot more at where the best interests are served, and the men get them more now than ever before. 

2 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

No. He has as much right of access to the child if he is a satisfactory parent and if he is the father. Access is not the equivalent of "right to a child". The child is not property. The burden of proof is on the plaintiff parent and the state to show that the mother is unfit. Until such time, if the mother is stable and financially capable, custody will almost always remain with the mother.

The mother is almost always the most suitable person to retain primary custody of a young child. The exception is made when the mother is unfit, e.g. a drug addict, a criminal, mentally ill.

 

A drug conviction most certainly influence the awarding of child custody. Family court does not want a child to be in a drug convict home. All we have seen so far are unsubstantiated allegations of  the woman being a sex worker and the father being a druggie. It is the he said, she said family dispute.  The man is in a difficult  position because he has acted without  a legal right to take the child. If he felt the child was neglected he should have gone to family services and obtained custody legally. Now he is just another bully stealing a Thai child. Yanking a child away from the mother and putting it in an unfamiliar environment is frowned upon by family court. This man is going to get a serious smack when the courts catch up to him.

So so so many assumptions. What do they say about making assumptions....

12 hours ago, Hellfire said:

This woman actually has HIV and worked at the bar in Pattaya. Don’t know why these important details are missing in Aseannow report.

 

yeah, you have access to her medical records

 

1 hour ago, thjames007 said:

You've never been thru custody with children in the courts then... 

 

But I see someone else has tried to point you in the right direction. 

 

What a father/husband thinks is fair or common sense isn't usually the way it goes.   

 

She has the legal rights on her side.  

That may depend on if she sent the child to stay with him then he refused to return it.. I would think there is more to this story than is being said here. Not many Gf would want another womans child to come live with her and the childs daddy...  They accept the child is not there when theygot together. But to have him move in later in the relationship is unusual for the woman to encourage and accept unless.... there is more to this story about the mother. 

11 hours ago, thesetat said:

The story header is quite misleading by not stating he is the paternal father. He has just as much right to the child as the mother does. To claim he took her child is wrong. 

 

You're completely wrong and obviously clueless about what you're talking about. 🙂 

1 hour ago, Hellfire said:

This woman actually has HIV and worked at the bar in Pattaya. Don’t know why these important details are missing in Aseannow report.

 

Because when it comes to an alleged child abduction, the alleged diseases and occupation of a parent are quite irrelevant.

4 hours ago, save the frogs said:

 

Have you ever actually dated in Thailand?

How old are you?

Unless you're 25 and getting 20 year old girls, a lot of Thai women (most) are divorced with children. 

 

 

Most got pregnant once or twice before their 18th birthday....at least out in the rural areas.

3 hours ago, gravity101 said:

So so so many assumptions. What do they say about making assumptions....

 

I dunno what do they say?

I am willing to bet she'll let him take care of the kid.

 

She probably can't do it herself due to antisocial barwork hours, also probably totally feckless anyway and would have shipped the kid off to her hometown to be raised by someone else before too long. 

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On 10/31/2025 at 4:18 PM, snoop1130 said:

A Thai woman in Pattaya

 

No guesses as to the nature of their relationship. 

14 hours ago, thesetat said:

He has just as much right to the child as the mother does.

Does he?  Are you sure about that?