CheckMate evidence ! Commands :Get out of the car 4X. while impeding LE.

What do you think ?

23 minutes ago, riclag said:

What do you think ?

The poor woman was executed. Zero threat to the LEO who deliberately stepped in front of the car which was turning away and shot the driver.

I wouldn't go ra-ra over this whatever your political leaning. You or I could be in a deadly "accidental" confrontation with LE despite our best intentions.

USA's becoming one of those shi*hole countries it points fingers at. Not that wild horses could drag me back there.

12 minutes ago, Autocan said:

The poor woman was executed. Zero threat to the LEO who deliberately stepped in front of the car which was turning away and shot the driver.

I wouldn't go ra-ra over this whatever your political leaning. You or I could be in a deadly "accidental" confrontation with LE despite our best intentions.

USA's becoming one of those shi*hole countries it points fingers at. Not that wild horses could drag me back there.

She was a woman , I'm not privy to her economic status. That being said,she's also a far left radical extremists. Im not radicalized/stupid enough to purposely put my car in a position to intentionally block off a road for the soul purpose to impede.obstruct LE. I also obey police commands ,I don't have to be told 4x, to get out of my car by a LE . I have no sympathy for her . I have researched her activities , she was trained activist, trained by ,"ICEwatch network "as a legal observer, legal observer is code language for a activist,according to reports. Many of these groups are associated with Communism(National Lawyers Guild). The expert in counter terrorism in the video explains all this.

Google AI overview:

Renee Nicole "Ms." Good was acting as a volunteer legal observer associated with a grassroots network, likely affiliated with groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) or the National Lawyers Guild (NLG). These organizations train volunteers to monitor interactions between protesters and law enforcement".

Google ai overview:the National Lawyers Guild (NLG) has a significant history intertwined with communism.

13 minutes ago, riclag said:

That being said,she's also a far left radical extremists. Im not radicalized/stupid enough to purposely put my car in a position to intentionally block off a road for the soul purpose to impede.obstruct LE.

It doesn't matter if she was a convicted axe-murderer. This wasn't why she was shot dead. Plenty of footage shows that, yes, she disobeyed LEO command to stop and was turning the car onto the road in a manner not threatening the safety of the LEO who stepped in front of the car and shot her through the front window.

Lethal force wasn't justified in any way. Heck, they had her plate number and could have apprehended her in hours. But, no, they decided to execute her.

Think how scary this is. Say you are in the US and being in the wrong place at the wrong time are caught up in an ICE dragnet. You protest that you are a law-abiding citizen minding his own business. But the ICE agent you are talking to for some reason or who is just having a bad day takes offense to the tone of your voice, doesn't like your face and shoots you through the head for allegedly threatening violence. And, then, FBI and DOJ back him up and local LE is barred from investigating your death, while MAGA media paints you as violent criminal who deserved what he got. North Korea, man!

Just very sad. She did not have to be shot. The gunshots did not stop the car moving into the direction it was heading or the speed.

They could have de-esculated and arrested her later.

There is clearly a wrong culture amongst these people at ICE.

2 hours ago, riclag said:

CheckMate evidence ! Commands :Get out of the car 4X. while impeding LE.

What do you think ?

If anything things makes it even worst for ICE. She was in no way a threat to them. Disobeying commands does not constitute killing someone. That is some low barrier training.

He could have just move aside, got out of the road, instead of reaching for his gun.

13 minutes ago, DonniePeverley said:

If anything things makes it even worst for ICE. She was in no way a threat to them. Disobeying commands does not constitute killing someone. That is some low barrier training.

He could have just move aside, got out of the road, instead of reaching for his gun.

Why does he have to move ? She was told to get out of the car.

And what of her gf encouraging her to leave after repeatedly being told to get out of the car ?

Drive baby drive.

31 minutes ago, Autocan said:

It doesn't matter if she was a convicted axe-murderer. This wasn't why she was shot dead. Plenty of footage shows that, yes, she disobeyed LEO command to stop and was turning the car onto the road in a manner not threatening the safety of the LEO who stepped in front of the car and shot her through the front window.

Lethal force wasn't justified in any way. Heck, they had her plate number and could have apprehended her in hours. But, no, they decided to execute her.

It looks that way... But why didn't she 'simply' just stop when told to ???

Why try and drive away ?? - just why ?

31 minutes ago, Autocan said:

Think how scary this is. Say you are in the US and being in the wrong place at the wrong time are caught up in an ICE dragnet. You protest that you are a law-abiding citizen minding his own business.

Very scary - Police, come, they have weapons (whether they have weapons or not is irrelevent) - is there any reason to escalate ?... unless someone wants escalation.

Comply... do what they say... Or is someone looking for 'media attention' ?

I don't know what LEO's have been through the days or weeks before - just comply - the requests were simple...

... "Get out of the car"... so why not turn off the car and sit there.... hands on the wheel... or get out out of the car as asked ... what was she trying to escape ?? why try and run ?... they're at the end of their game already...

31 minutes ago, Autocan said:

But the ICE agent you are talking to for some reason or who is just having a bad day takes offense to the tone of your voice, doesn't like your face and shoots you through the head for allegedly threatening violence.

Agreed - the reaction seems excessive...

ICE Watch - is that why she was killed ? because such activists are a thorn in the side of ICE ?

What was she trying to drive away from ?...

... If the Police say 'get out of the car' - isn't it just that simple ?... stop and get out.

It seems she believed they would do nothing... her reactions to try and drive away were delusional.

Not worthy of being shot - but, she was told to stop !!

No - she didn't try and run over the ICE officer, he could easily have stood out of the way, he could easily have withheld his fire, he should have (in hindsight).... BUT... why did she try and drive off...

Through her own flawed response the woman is complicit in her own downfall - she miscalculated.

Tragic for both parties and unnecessary event - triggered by an overreactive ICE officer and an woman under the delusion that she could ignore police (ICE).

31 minutes ago, Autocan said:

And, then, FBI and DOJ back him up and local LE is barred from investigating your death, while MAGA media paints you as violent criminal who deserved what he got. North Korea, man!

She tried to run.. He shot when he shouldn't have... Both made major errors...

She didn't deserve to be shot - but neither was she an innocent bystander - arguably she was the master of the escalation that led to the over-reaction that led to her downfall.

As tragic as it is - she holds much of the responsibility for the escalation which led to her death.

6 minutes ago, blaze master said:

Why does he have to move ? She was told to get out of the car.

And what of her gf encouraging her to leave after repeatedly being told to get out of the car ?

Drive baby drive.

The left is trying to tell me my eyes don't see or I don't hear a far left extremists hell bent on impeiding ,provoking ,obstructing ,(resisting 4x) Law Enforcement and then hitting them with a car.

ICE agent who fatally shot woman in Minneapolis was dragged by car in earlier incident

The agent, Jonathan Ross, was injured last year by a fleeing driver during an arrest, according to court records.

09 JAN 2026 -- A law enforcement source, who is not authorized to speak publicly, confirmed that Ross is the shooter.

(VP Vance) also defended the agent’s actions.

“That very ICE officer nearly had his life ended … six months ago,” Vance said, referring to the earlier car-dragging incident.

“You think maybe he’s a little bit * sensitive about somebody ramming him?”

https://www.startribune.com/ice-agent-who-fatally-shot-woman-in-minneapolis-is-identified/601560214

*NB or maybe overly sensitive

57 minutes ago, riclag said:

The left is trying to tell me my eyes don't see or I don't hear a far left extremists hell bent on impeiding ,provoking ,obstructing ,(resisting 4x) Law Enforcement and then hitting them with a car.

The driver in the car who was shot dead speaks softly to the shooter who is filming her.

Her friend indulges in some banter with the killer about not changing the number plate every morning.

One Ice agent shouts, 'Get out of the f...ING car'.'

As the driver pulls away to the left of the shooter, he fires three times at her, killing her.

Police all over the civilised world are trained to accept being filmed in a public place, and are trained to accept banter. A policeman cannot lose his cool over mild baiting.

But this agent pumps three bullets into the woman.

And the car didn't knock him down, he simply switched his phone for his gun and fired three times.

21 minutes ago, bannork said:

The driver in the car who was shot dead speaks softly to the shooter who is filming her.

Her friend indulges in some banter with the killer about not changing the number plate every morning.

One Ice agent shouts, 'Get out of the f...ING car'.'

As the driver pulls away to the left of the shooter, he fires three times at her, killing her.

Police all over the civilised world are trained to accept being filmed in a public place, and are trained to accept banter. A policeman cannot lose his cool over mild baiting.

But this agent pumps three bullets into the woman.

And the car didn't knock him down, he simply switched his phone for his gun and fired three times.

From a police perspective in my country .time stamp 0:42, "Lets look at the event"

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

From a police perspective in my country .time stamp 0:42, "Lets look at the event"

But she didn't drive directly at him otherwise he would have been run over.

The car went to the right and because the killer was leaning on the far left side of the car he edged out of the way and pumped two more shots into her.

You can see his legs/ feet move slightly in the other video taken from behind the car.

Yes, the mayor shouldn't have sworn but he was angry at the lies Trump said ( the shooter was seriously injured, he went to hospital, etc).

Absolute lies as always from Trump

5 minutes ago, bannork said:

But she didn't drive directly at him otherwise he would have been run over.

The car went to the right and because the killer was leaning on the far left side of the car he edged out of the way and pumped two more shots into her.

You can see his legs/ feet move slightly in the other video taken from behind the car.

Yes, the mayor shouldn't have sworn but he was angry at the lies Trump said ( the shooter was seriously injured, he went to hospital, etc).

Absolute lies as always from Trump

She hit the Fed with the car, end of story!

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

She hit the Fed with the car, end of story!

It's not the end of the story

10 minutes ago, bannork said:

It's not the end of the story

For me it is! Cnn Josh Campbell x FBI left the FBI in 2018 voiced a opinion piece in the NYT cause he didn't like the attacks on the Russia Russia mueller probe scandal at the time,especially being a close side partner with Comey.

3 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

It looks that way... But why didn't she 'simply' just stop when told to ???

Why try and drive away ?? - just why ?

Very scary - Police, come, they have weapons (whether they have weapons or not is irrelevent) - is there any reason to escalate ?... unless someone wants escalation.

Comply... do what they say... Or is someone looking for 'media attention' ?

I don't know what LEO's have been through the days or weeks before - just comply - the requests were simple...

... "Get out of the car"... so why not turn off the car and sit there.... hands on the wheel... or get out out of the car as asked ... what was she trying to escape ?? why try and run ?... they're at the end of their game already...

Agreed - the reaction seems excessive...

ICE Watch - is that why she was killed ? because such activists are a thorn in the side of ICE ?

What was she trying to drive away from ?...

... If the Police say 'get out of the car' - isn't it just that simple ?... stop and get out.

It seems she believed they would do nothing... her reactions to try and drive away were delusional.

Not worthy of being shot - but, she was told to stop !!

No - she didn't try and run over the ICE officer, he could easily have stood out of the way, he could easily have withheld his fire, he should have (in hindsight).... BUT... why did she try and drive off...

Through her own flawed response the woman is complicit in her own downfall - she miscalculated.

Tragic for both parties and unnecessary event - triggered by an overreactive ICE officer and an woman under the delusion that she could ignore police (ICE).

She tried to run.. He shot when he shouldn't have... Both made major errors...

She didn't deserve to be shot - but neither was she an innocent bystander - arguably she was the master of the escalation that led to the over-reaction that led to her downfall.

As tragic as it is - she holds much of the responsibility for the escalation which led to her death.

Someone gave you a boo hoo emoji for this well balanced analysis of what happened.

Thanks for the comment.

1 hour ago, riclag said:

She hit the Fed with the car, end of story!

Whether it is the end of the story in any criminal sense or not, the next story may start with a wrongful death civil action.

Such action could be based not on the decision of the shooter, but based on the decision of his superiors including DHS Sec. Noem if it is established that this guy was still in PTSD / "unresolved fear" mode from a prior well documented incident and should have still been assigned to a desk job and not out on the street.

_________________________

In his December (2025) court testimony, which spanned two days, Ross said he was afraid he was going to be pulled under the tire. “I was fearing for my life,” Ross told the court. “I knew I was going to get drug. And the fact I couldn’t get my arm out, I didn’t know how long I would be drugged. So I was kind of running with the vehicle.”

Ross testified that he screamed at Muñoz to stop and fired 10 Taser rounds at him, the maximum number. “I did see the impacts on his face,” he said. But court records show the impact did not incapacitate Muñoz, who was arrested shortly after the incident.

https://archive.ph/YjqMw#selection-599.0-619.255

6 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Even as a security in Norway, we knew and been trained not to get in front of a suspects car, this pure stupidity. Of course she drives away when he pulls the gun, which you see he is already ready to use when she starts driving.

6 hours ago, riclag said:

CheckMate evidence ! Commands :Get out of the car 4X. while impeding LE.

What do you think ?

If she had obeyed the commands to vacate the vehicle, she would not have been shot, but she didn't and we know what happened!

6 hours ago, riclag said:

CheckMate evidence ! Commands :Get out of the car 4X. while impeding LE.

What do you think ?

ICE have no authority over US Citizens.

4 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

If she had obeyed the commands to vacate the vehicle, she would not have been shot, but she didn't and we know what happened!

What we know is she was shot dead.

We do not know that any other action would not have resulted in her being shot dead.

The language being used by suggests clear hate towards the victim.

5 hours ago, riclag said:

She was a woman , I'm not privy to her economic status. That being said,she's also a far left radical extremists. Im not radicalized/stupid enough to purposely put my car in a position to intentionally block off a road for the soul purpose to impede.obstruct LE. I also obey police commands ,I don't have to be told 4x, to get out of my car by a LE . I have no sympathy for her . I have researched her activities , she was trained activist, trained by ,"ICEwatch network "as a legal observer, legal observer is code language for a activist,according to reports. Many of these groups are associated with Communism(National Lawyers Guild). The expert in counter terrorism in the video explains all this.

Google AI overview:

Renee Nicole "Ms." Good was acting as a volunteer legal observer associated with a grassroots network, likely affiliated with groups such as the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) or the National Lawyers Guild (NLG). These organizations train volunteers to monitor interactions between protesters and law enforcement".

Google ai overview:the National Lawyers Guild (NLG) has a significant history intertwined with communism.

Another thing I don't like about the West thesedays. Look at those 'protestors'. No police or armed forces around to protect those dysgenic gimpiods and 5-6 actual men could wade through them all. Very pathetic. Embarrassing.

14 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

If she had obeyed the commands to vacate the vehicle, she would not have been shot, but she didn't and we know what happened!

Do you understand people do stupid things when they get scared and panicking and out of those reasons have a problem or can not obey commands? It is a natural reaction normal people who are not trained for certain situations reacts.

Police and law enforcement duty is to serve and protect but Americans seems to have a completely different idea about those commandments.

When law enforcement becomes terror, ,,,,

23 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

If she had obeyed the commands to vacate the vehicle, she would not have been shot, but she didn't and we know what happened!

You see, I can also use thumbs down ;-) 👎

20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

What we know is she was shot dead.

We do not know that any other action would not have resulted in her being shot dead.

The language being used by suggests clear hate towards the victim.

Multiple videos (including the agent's cellphone footage released Jan. 9) show the sequence: agents demand "Get out of the <deleted> car," one grabs at the door/handle, Good says things like "That's fine, dude, I'm not mad at you," then the vehicle moves.

If she had complied by exiting the vehicle as ordered—instead of attempting to drive away—the confrontation almost certainly ends without gunfire. No shots are fired in similar de-escalated encounters where drivers exit peacefully.

14 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Do you understand people do stupid things when they get scared and panicking and out of those reasons have a problem or can not obey commands? It is a natural reaction normal people who are not trained for certain situations reacts.

Police and law enforcement duty is to serve and protect but Americans seems to have a completely different idea about those commandments.

When law enforcement becomes terror, ,,,,

I agree people do stupid things when they get scared, goes for the cops/ICE agents also.

Three kids just lost their mother, its very sad

But actions have consequences.

When you attack, resist, or charge at ICE agents — the situation explodes in seconds.

These officers are trained to react to sudden aggression as a deadly threat, because that’s exactly how officers end up dead on the job.

People online love to pretend that “just resisting” or “just charging at officers” is no big deal…but in the REAL world, it’s life-or-death in a fraction of a second.

This didn’t have to happen.

This could have been avoided.

But once you escalate — you LOSE control of the outcome.

Tragic situation — but a brutal reminder:

Don’t escalate. Don’t attack officers. Don’t gamble with your life.

 

3 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:

I agree people do stupid things when they get scared, goes for the cops/ICE agents also.

Three kids just lost their mother, its very sad

But actions have consequences.

When you attack, resist, or charge at ICE agents — the situation explodes in seconds.

These officers are trained to react to sudden aggression as a deadly threat, because that’s exactly how officers end up dead on the job.

People online love to pretend that “just resisting” or “just charging at officers” is no big deal…but in the REAL world, it’s life-or-death in a fraction of a second.

This didn’t have to happen.

This could have been avoided.

But once you escalate — you LOSE control of the outcome.

Tragic situation — but a brutal reminder:

Don’t escalate. Don’t attack officers. Don’t gamble with your life.

 

Well, I disagree this was an attack, and you get that from one who have faced knives, axes and weapons and also military training, where we learn to do as little damage as possible when needed against civilians. We where Training for specific situations ss a daily task, and for law enforcement in most civilized counties do this often, but doesnt seem to be in USA, where shoot first is the first rule.

Ai says when I look up my answer to you

Research and expert analysis as of January 2026 highlight significant differences between U.S. law enforcement training and that of many European nations, often supporting your observation regarding the duration and focus of training

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Training Disparities

• Duration: In the U.S., basic police training typically lasts about 20–21 weeks (roughly 833 hours). In contrast, countries like Norway, Finland, and Germany require three years of training, often including university-level degrees in criminal justice.

• Focus on Force vs. Communication: U.S. academies historically prioritize firearms and physical force training (averaging 71 hours) over de-escalation and communication (averaging 21 hours).

• Legal Standards: U.S. law does not require officers to prove that lethal force was a "last resort" or strictly proportional, whereas many European nations have much more rigorous rules for what constitutes a justified use of force

3 hours ago, bannork said:

The driver in the car who was shot dead speaks softly to the shooter who is filming her.

Her friend indulges in some banter with the killer about not changing the number plate every morning.

One Ice agent shouts, 'Get out of the f...ING car'.'

As the driver pulls away to the left of the shooter, he fires three times at her, killing her.

Police all over the civilised world are trained to accept being filmed in a public place, and are trained to accept banter. A policeman cannot lose his cool over mild baiting.

But this agent pumps three bullets into the woman.

And the car didn't knock him down, he simply switched his phone for his gun and fired three times.

He also pulled his gun before she started moving forward. She backed up to make the turn. He pulled his gun while she was stationary, changing gears.