1 minute ago, sungod said:

Get your crayons out mate

You used yours all up. No biggie I get it. Ill go buy a box for you free of charge.

8 minutes ago, blaze master said:

No silly. I mean these images. UK passport on top. Canadian on bottom.

Well, I would not call those images Porn, exactly.

2 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Well, I would not call those images Porn, exactly.

To many Canadians the Stanley cup is basically porn. 😁

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

In IMO - passports are outdated...

- Passports are fragile - water, bent pages, wear and tear can easily damage them. For the most important document we carry, thats a bit ridiculous.

- They are bulky - its a booklet that doesnt fit properly in a wallet.

- Pages run out because of stamps and visas - so people end up replacing a passport that is still valid.

- Border control still rely a lot on someone just looking at it - slow and easy for mistakes.

- A modern ID card could hold biometrics - fingerprints, face scan, encrypted data.

- A card format would make automated border gates faster - less queues, less manual checks.

- Digital verification could remove a lot of paperwork for visas and entry records.

- Cards would be cheaper and easier to replace if lost or damaged.

- Many countries already use national ID cards - extending that for travel makes sense.

- A modern travel ID could link with secure digital identity systems - you wouldnt need to keep showing documents everywhere.

- Airports already use biometric gates anyway - the system is already there.

- A strong plastic ID card would last far longer than a paper booklet that gets battered in bags and pockets.

- The whole passport system feels outdated now - its like something designed for the 1950s not today.

Feck me, have you gone all @KhunLA on us. Bring it back man, you are on the verge. Check yourself.

The best passport in the world to have would be the Swiss passport. Not so much for it's design, like it or not ... more for the neutrality of that very rich country. The Swiss never meddle in others business and like it or not, Swiss nationals are usually accepted worldwide with no political rivalry. I would definately trade in my EU passport anytime for the Swiss one.

1 hour ago, blaze master said:

To many Canadians the Stanley cup is basically porn. 😁

Yo ... don't be dissing the Stanley Cup. I even went to the museum, HHoF at Toronto.

18 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Yo ... don't be dissing the Stanley Cup. I even went to the museum, HHoF at Toronto.

The cup has been brought to my hometown more times than I can remember. No diss here. 😁

13 hours ago, KhunLA said:

USA interfered with Korea & Vietnam's peace process.

Cheney's administration and the invasion of Iraq & Afghanistan ... the worse

USAid / CIA regime changes, too many, and most simply rushed the normal process of change.

Aside from that, USA bought most of it's expansion, from Spain, France & Russia. Even the Virgin Islands. Not sure about Micronesia + area.

As far as the 'natives' living there before the New World was discovered, well, they were pretty brutal to each other, had their little conflicts going, rape, pillage & slavery. Them spoils of war.

An OK history, especially compared to other oppressive 'empires'.

Ah, half of Mexico taken as a result of Mexican War ... not purchased.

2 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

Ah, half of Mexico taken as a result of Mexican War ... not purchased.

Reading comprehension ... 'most' 🙄

13 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Aside from that, USA bought ... "most" ... of it's expansion, from Spain, France & Russia. Even the Virgin Islands. Not sure about Micronesia + area.

Here we go again. What did the Romans ever do for us?

22 hours ago, KhunLA said:

The last thing I would want, is the Crown's 'Code of Arms' on anything, as simply represent their elitist birthright oppression they've exercised for centuries over their subjects.

Not much different than Thai emblem on PP.

USA represents 'Peace & Strength', Olive branch & Eagle w/arrows.

Although there may be a change in the future ...

Lighten up.

4 minutes ago, Dionigi said:

Here we go again. What did the Romans ever do for us?

Aqueducts come to mind right away. Though would think, other thought of it on a smaller scale, along with sewers, maybe.

Like the 'innocent till proven guilty', though not sure how that worked beyond theory. Corruption always rules.

21 hours ago, KhunLA said:

USA history is bad enough, I certainly wouldn't want centuries of oppressing so many other cultures / countries. Bad enough the New World had to tolerate it for ~100+ yrs.

British Empire nothing to be proud of ... IMHO

Sadly, not alone in that aspect.

The British empire was the most widespread and powerful of all time. There was a lot wrong with it, but It was not all bad.

5 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Aqueducts come to mind right away. Though would think, other thought of it on a smaller scale, along with sewers, maybe.

Like the 'innocent till proven guilty', though not sure how that worked beyond theory. Corruption always rules.

https://youtu.be/9foi342LXQE?si=3cHYcQin6px7R7gw

On 3/17/2026 at 7:34 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

US passport, not because it’s the most envied passport on the planet, it’s because it’s the only one I’ll ever need.

22 hours ago, KhunLA said:

The last thing I would want, is the Crown's 'Code of Arms' on anything, as simply represent their elitist birthright oppression they've exercised for centuries over their subjects.

Not much different than Thai emblem on PP.

USA represents 'Peace & Strength', Olive branch & Eagle w/arrows.

Although there may be a change in the future ...

Maybe you have not noticed but the future is already here.

Why do you think some US citizens are claiming they are Canadian?

TPenguin Island?

Which country's passport is most beautiful? And, why?

Who cares,it's only a ID document Not a picture/painting to display on a wall.

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

The British empire was the most widespread and powerful of all time. There was a lot wrong with it, but It was not all bad.

Agree, and didn't say it was, all bad, just pointed out, wouldn't want to be reminded of the 'Crown's' birthright, on my PP, and the past's tyrannical rule, over own subjects and other cultures.

Luckily, USA hasn't had that long to screw up, though may be making up for lost time, especially this century. 25 yrs in, and 20 have been nothing but corporate conflicts for big oil & defense contractors.

Only Iran seems like it might have been needed, and that certainly is debatable. I'm not a fan of US military being there. Considering control of the region affects the whole world, debatable, it shouldn't be in the hands of terrorist nations, or any one superpower.

7 hours ago, novacova said:

US passport, not because it’s the most envied passport on the planet, it’s because it’s the only one I’ll ever need.

The US passport is 'not' the most envied passport on the planet - someone would have be a brainwashed US citizen for that... but that also depends on the context and understanding of 'envied'..

Statistically - the Singaporean passport is the most powerful - there are 23 passports ahead of the US.

Top 10 Strongest Passports (2026 Henley Passport Index)

1. Singapore (192-195 destinations)

2. Japan, South Korea

3. Germany, Spain, France, Italy

4. Austria , Belgium, Finland, Luxembourg, Norway, Netherlands, Denmark

5. Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hungary, United Arab Emirates

6. Croatia, Czechia, Estonia, Malta, Poland, New Zealand

7. Australia, Latvia, Liechtenstein, United Kingdom

8. Canada, Iceland, Lithuania

9. Malaysia

10. United States

https://www.henleyglobal.com/passport-index/ranking

23 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Aqueducts come to mind right away. Though would think, other thought of it on a smaller scale, along with sewers, maybe.

Like the 'innocent till proven guilty', though not sure how that worked beyond theory. Corruption always rules.

You didn't watch Monty Python then.

2 minutes ago, Dionigi said:

You didn't watch Monty Python then.

Started to, but seen it before. When I was a pot head, use to be funny. Not so much any more, but most comedy usually isn't the 2nd time around. Not sure if it's the comedy, or the weed, that made it funny. Pretty sure it was the weed.

15 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

The US passport is 'not' the most envied passport on the planet - someone would have be a brainwashed US citizen for that... but that also depends on the context and understanding of 'envied'..

Statistically - the Singaporean passport is the most powerful - there are 23 passports ahead of the US.

Top 10 Strongest Passports (2026 Henley Passport Index)

1. Singapore (192-195 destinations)

2. Japan, South Korea

3. Germany, Spain, France, Italy

4. Austria , Belgium, Finland, Luxembourg, Norway, Netherlands, Denmark

5. Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hungary, United Arab Emirates

6. Croatia, Czechia, Estonia, Malta, Poland, New Zealand

7. Australia, Latvia, Liechtenstein, United Kingdom

8. Canada, Iceland, Lithuania

9. Malaysia

10. United States

https://www.henleyglobal.com/passport-index/ranking

Mixed thoughts on that. Visas use to be for security, now they seem more of a revenue stream. Although, due to past open border policy, USA now known to have unvetted illegal immigrants, getting IDs in some states, maybe some countries now, Europe in particular, since later this year, more countries will require a visa to visit, are now going back to needing a visa, for security concerns.

Or still, just a revenue stream, as govts try to find ways to pay those deficits.

In the grand scale of things, if USA is such a sh!thole, then why do so many want to live there ...

Not my choice of course, but not because it's a sh!thole, but more, been there, done that, got the hat. Now a bit too expensive just to have that right, to live there. Tax someone else to death. Can't avoid death, but can avoid being over taxed.

On 3/19/2026 at 9:13 AM, KhunLA said:

Reading comprehension ... 'most' 🙄

yes, agreed correct. "most" = reading comprehension. "it's" = grammatical comprehension ...

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

The US passport is 'not' the most envied passport on the planet - someone would have be a brainwashed US citizen for that... but that also depends on the context and understanding of 'envied'..

Statistically - the Singaporean passport is the most powerful - there are 23 passports ahead of the US.

Top 10 Strongest Passports (2026 Henley Passport Index)

1. Singapore (192-195 destinations)

2. Japan, South Korea

3. Germany, Spain, France, Italy

4. Austria , Belgium, Finland, Luxembourg, Norway, Netherlands, Denmark

5. Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Hungary, United Arab Emirates

6. Croatia, Czechia, Estonia, Malta, Poland, New Zealand

7. Australia, Latvia, Liechtenstein, United Kingdom

8. Canada, Iceland, Lithuania

9. Malaysia

10. United States

https://www.henleyglobal.com/passport-index/ranking

On 3/18/2026 at 7:49 PM, richard_smith237 said:

- A modern ID card could hold biometrics - fingerprints, face scan, encrypted data.

This might sound good to some.

However, how would I be able to check the information in my passport if it were reduced to a machine-readable electromagnetic card,...

During one of the many power blackouts we have here, at the oddest moments.

How could I read the visa stamps without a reader?

You want I should mind-meld with my passport-card?

On 3/17/2026 at 10:34 PM, GammaGlobulin said:

Dear Folks,

I have, for many years, been so envious of the beauty of the British Passport.

It is far more lovely than my own.

For example:

If you could buy one, which one would you buy?

Alternatively, out of all countries on Planet Earth, which country has...

\The most beautiful passport.... Aesthetically speaking, of course.

How much would you pay for one of these, by the way?

Best regards,

Gamma

On 3/18/2026 at 12:28 AM, sungod said:

Wrong, the UK passport and coat of arms represents centuries of history, something young countries like yours doesn’t have.

yes, but sadly look at Britain now. Britain used to overtake over countries, now immigrants are overtaking Britain.

On 3/18/2026 at 2:16 AM, johnnybangkok said:

I literally sat with 2 young Americans last night (one aged 26, the other 34) who both said they no longer admit to being American when they first meet people and say they are Canadian as they don't want YET another discussion about the $hit America is subjecting the world to.

P.S. I'm not a royalist (I'm Scottish so very few of us are) so not disagreeing on your anti-monarchist views.

dont talk to stupid woke collage kids from the US. Did you ask if they were ashamed of being white too??

The kids in collages have been brainwashed to thinking they are bad because they are from the US and white and should be ashamed of themselves because the US has had salves in the past.

They are also being taught there is not such thing as two genders, you can be what you want to be.

3 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

This might sound good to some.

However, how would I be able to check the information in my passport if it were reduced to a machine-readable electromagnetic card,...

During one of the many power blackouts we have here, at the oddest moments.

How could I read the visa stamps without a reader?

You want I should mind-meld with my passport-card?

You forget how long you can stay for ? thought you had superior intelligence GG.

A lot of countries no longer put the permission until stamp in your entry stamp in your passport these days.

Nearly every country has this information digitised and you can access it online - logging in with your passport details - extensions can be applied for online etc.

So - its not a huge leap forwards to go fully digital - systems are already most of the way there.

Power cuts - IF its that 'critical' to your permission date and cant wait to find out the following day - you are already cutting it too fine.

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

You forget how long you can stay for ? thought you had superior intelligence GG.

A lot of countries no longer put the permission until stamp in your entry stamp in your passport these days.

Nearly every country has this information digitised and you can access it online - logging in with your passport details - extensions can be applied for online etc.

So - its not a huge leap forwards to go fully digital - systems are already most of the way there.

Power cuts - IF its that 'critical' to your permission date and cant wait to find out the following day - you are already cutting it too fine.

I would not trust the encryption.

I might be in North Korea, and not be able to use a computer for weeks.

I like the convenience of being able to open my passport and see all my stamps, at anytime, even without resorting to an electronic device.

No encryption will be safe, soon.

I also save my passports, and I would not be interested in saving a plastic card.

10 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Mixed thoughts on that. Visas use to be for security, now they seem more of a revenue stream. Although, due to past open border policy, USA now known to have unvetted illegal immigrants, getting IDs in some states, maybe some countries now, Europe in particular, since later this year, more countries will require a visa to visit, are now going back to needing a visa, for security concerns.

Or still, just a revenue stream, as govts try to find ways to pay those deficits.

In the grand scale of things, if USA is such a sh!thole, then why do so many want to live there ...

Not my choice of course, but not because it's a sh!thole, but more, been there, done that, got the hat. Now a bit too expensive just to have that right, to live there. Tax someone else to death. Can't avoid death, but can avoid being over taxed.

In that case - Canada is the most desirable.