New Models For The Thai Market

[canthai55]

CVT = continuously variable transmission

Key word continuously

Low they know - high they know - middle, what middle ?

[papa al]

21 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

Da, but can't they know the position of the belt and therefor the ratio? it's not like it has no idea about the ratio. It has to control it after all.

Are they & it

the metal cetrifugal rollers?

Or what?

[eisfeld]

12 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

CVT = continuously variable transmission

Key word continuously

Low they know - high they know - middle, what middle ?

 

I know they are continuosly. Surely it can't be so hard to measure the position more granular than the two extremes on the side?

 

10 minutes ago, papa al said:

Are they & it

the metal cetrifugal rollers?

Or what?

 

I don't know how it would work, I just can imagine that measuring the position can't be rocket science ????

 

It was just a thought how they might get the rear wheel speed without having the ABS to piggyback on.

[canthai55]

ABS uses the tone wheel - problem solved.

Don't care what gear the transmission is in, what color shorts you got on, who your GIK is ...

Phases of the moon, alignment of the planets, height of the tide ...

[eisfeld]

3 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

ABS uses the tone wheel - problem solved.

Don't care what gear the transmission is in, what color shorts you got on, who your GIK is ...

Phases of the moon, alignment of the planets, height of the tide ...

The problem is that there doesn't seem to be a tonewheel as the rear wheel has no ABS, yet it has traction control. So we were thinking of alternative ways.

[Agusts]

No point trying to second guess Honda engineers, we just have to wait and see what it has on the back wheel....

[jackdd]

3 hours ago, eisfeld said:

The problem is that there doesn't seem to be a tonewheel as the rear wheel has no ABS, yet it has traction control. So we were thinking of alternative ways.

Could be something as simple as: The Engine RPM spikes (and the rider didn't just rip open the throttle) -> Rear wheel is probably slipping, reduce the power.

[Issanman]

Kawasaki Meguro K3 now being sold in Thailand @ 427,000฿.

This appears to be another version of the W800. So this is a retro-version of an already retro-motorcycle.

But I like it.

 

 

 

[VocalNeal]

58 minutes ago, Issanman said:

Kawasaki Meguro K3 now being sold in Thailand @ 427,000฿.

This appears to be another version of the W800.

 

Meguro Motorcycles was a partner of and later absorbed by Kawasaki. So all they have done is turned the "W" upside down and done a rebadge.

[jackdd]

On 23rd Yamaha will show new bikes, one of them should be a new/updated NMAX: https://www.facebook.com/YamahaSocietyThailand/

Previously the main argument for NMAX over Honda PCX was the ABS, but with the PCX 160 Honda does now also offer ABS.

Let's see if Yamaha has anything on offer to trump the PCX 160.

[papa al]

... a "161"           cc        would be sweet.

????

[jackdd]

As expected, an update for the NMAX: https://www.yamaha-motor.co.th/commuter/nmax-2021/feature

Looks like there are only two new features: Traction control and "Connected".

Traction control comes as standard, to get the "Connected" features you have to pay 4500THB more and then you can connect your phone to the bike and do this:

 

The Honda PCX 160 with ABS costs 91.9k, and the new NMAX with "Connected" costs exactly the same.

Yamaha throws in a 5 year 50k warranty though, no idea what you get from Honda for their PCX, but probably quite a bit less.

At first the NMAX does of course look like more value for the money, but if you plan to sell it after a few years (what probably most people here do) and take resale value into consideration the PCX is cheaper.

[Issanman]

2022 KLR650 magically appeared on the Thai Kawasaki website. Now with fuel-injection.   

268500฿ for the standard model and 299000฿ for the Adventure version.

 

With ABS.

Papa Al has mentioned owning a KLR650 that he keeps in Colorado for his stateside visits.

I think he will find this one hard to resist.

Edited March 31, 2021 by Issanman

[papa al]

KLR650 previously not available in Thailand.

Made here for export.