Kawasaki Er6-f

[ScubaBuddha]

Yes I have book and plate. Your explanation makes as much sense as any.

I've checked and the book matches the numbers on the bike.

If the book matches both engine and frame.. Then we are once again into weird territory.. Have a look at the page 18 info and see if it has taxes paid on the bike as import as parts and see if the same frame and engine numbers are listed.

14k sounds high to fix that.. Even if it needs engine taxes paid that seems high for a second hand imported engine.

Good luck

EDIT :: It just clicked.. Your on Phuket are you not ?? Suddenly everything is becoming clear.. The most unfriendly big bike province in the country strikes again !!

Lol yes. Thanks for the info LILOS.

I'm going to stray OT again for a minute, but I don't really want to start a new topic because many of you here are aware of my situation and have already helped me out.

As you may know, I have had numerous problems getting my '93 CBR 400RR registered which I bought from a supposed "reputable" shop in Chang Mai. The initial issue was the lack of import tax paid (page 18) which appears to be a problem only here in Phuket. Well my situation has taken a stomach churning turn. After I found a potential buyer in Samui and thought I had the page 18 problem solved, I thought I would do a double transfer. First into my name (since I already signed transfer papers from old owner at the urging of Phuket Land Transport Department (LTD)) Indeed they didn't seem to care about import taxes at the in Surathani LTD, even the old owner/sellers visa being expired was no problem. However, once we got to the point where we had the bike inspected, they told me that the engine is not original, and thus the book is fake/no good and it can not be registered or sold legally in Thailand. Thinking back now, I believe this was also a problem my fixer guy was trying to explain to me when I originally tried to get it registered in Phuket. That time he wanted 14k baht to do it. I have decided it is pointless to pay the 14k baht because, although that will get it into my name, it still will be an illegal bike, and technically unsellable. As best as I could tell, the fact that engine number ends in 370 and the frame ends in 366 is the problem. (See picture) The Surrathani LTD said my only option is to take the bike to the police to have it inspected. Since I'm not big on donations to the Royal Thai Police, I declined. And yes, I asked how much to fix the problem, and they wouldn't go for it.

One potential solution, if I sell it to someone outside of Thailand, will these problems prevent me from de-registering it in Thailand? It seems that is what all these rules are aimed at doing anyway, getting these bikes off Thai roads so they don't compete with the new big bikes being made here now.

I am shocked that a "reputable" shop would be selling illegal bikes like this. Any suggestions what direction I should take? I'm thinking first step is make a report with Chang Mai police before pursuing legal action.

[soundman]

I'm going to stray OT again for a minute, but I don't really want to start a new topic because many of you here are aware of my situation and have already helped me out.

As you may know, I have had numerous problems getting my '93 CBR 400RR registered which I bought from a supposed "reputable" shop in Chang Mai. The initial issue was the lack of import tax paid (page 18) which appears to be a problem only here in Phuket. Well my situation has taken a stomach churning turn. After I found a potential buyer in Samui and thought I had the page 18 problem solved, I thought I would do a double transfer. First into my name (since I already signed transfer papers from old owner at the urging of Phuket Land Transport Department (LTD)) Indeed they didn't seem to care about import taxes at the in Surathani LTD, even the old owner/sellers visa being expired was no problem. However, once we got to the point where we had the bike inspected, they told me that the engine is not original, and thus the book is fake/no good and it can not be registered or sold legally in Thailand. Thinking back now, I believe this was also a problem my fixer guy was trying to explain to me when I originally tried to get it registered in Phuket. That time he wanted 14k baht to do it. I have decided it is pointless to pay the 14k baht because, although that will get it into my name, it still will be an illegal bike, and technically unsellable. As best as I could tell, the fact that engine number ends in 370 and the frame ends in 366 is the problem. (See picture) The Surrathani LTD said my only option is to take the bike to the police to have it inspected. Since I'm not big on donations to the Royal Thai Police, I declined. And yes, I asked how much to fix the problem, and they wouldn't go for it.

One potential solution, if I sell it to someone outside of Thailand, will these problems prevent me from de-registering it in Thailand? It seems that is what all these rules are aimed at doing anyway, getting these bikes off Thai roads so they don't compete with the new big bikes being made here now.

I am shocked that a "reputable" shop would be selling illegal bikes like this. Any suggestions what direction I should take? I'm thinking first step is make a report with Chang Mai police before pursuing legal action.

Another giveaway about the authenticity is the engine spec. being a singal cylinder 400cc engine on that book...

[ScubaBuddha]

I'm going to stray OT again for a minute, but I don't really want to start a new topic because many of you here are aware of my situation and have already helped me out.

As you may know, I have had numerous problems getting my '93 CBR 400RR registered which I bought from a supposed "reputable" shop in Chang Mai. The initial issue was the lack of import tax paid (page 18) which appears to be a problem only here in Phuket. Well my situation has taken a stomach churning turn. After I found a potential buyer in Samui and thought I had the page 18 problem solved, I thought I would do a double transfer. First into my name (since I already signed transfer papers from old owner at the urging of Phuket Land Transport Department (LTD)) Indeed they didn't seem to care about import taxes at the in Surathani LTD, even the old owner/sellers visa being expired was no problem. However, once we got to the point where we had the bike inspected, they told me that the engine is not original, and thus the book is fake/no good and it can not be registered or sold legally in Thailand. Thinking back now, I believe this was also a problem my fixer guy was trying to explain to me when I originally tried to get it registered in Phuket. That time he wanted 14k baht to do it. I have decided it is pointless to pay the 14k baht because, although that will get it into my name, it still will be an illegal bike, and technically unsellable. As best as I could tell, the fact that engine number ends in 370 and the frame ends in 366 is the problem. (See picture) The Surrathani LTD said my only option is to take the bike to the police to have it inspected. Since I'm not big on donations to the Royal Thai Police, I declined. And yes, I asked how much to fix the problem, and they wouldn't go for it.

One potential solution, if I sell it to someone outside of Thailand, will these problems prevent me from de-registering it in Thailand? It seems that is what all these rules are aimed at doing anyway, getting these bikes off Thai roads so they don't compete with the new big bikes being made here now.

I am shocked that a "reputable" shop would be selling illegal bikes like this. Any suggestions what direction I should take? I'm thinking first step is make a report with Chang Mai police before pursuing legal action.

Another giveaway about the authenticity is the engine spec. being a singal cylinder 400cc engine on that book...

Hmm..that is very interesting. Didn't realize that.

[thaicbr]

I would go back to the shop and tell him the problems. Maybe he will buy it back from you. the Engine and frame numbers are correct and are from a 92 or 93 cbr400 the initial registration was 14 years ago supposedly. I would try the original dealer 1st. Good luck Allan

[ScubaBuddha]

I would go back to the shop and tell him the problems. Maybe he will buy it back from you. the Engine and frame numbers are correct and are from a 92 or 93 cbr400 the initial registration was 14 years ago supposedly. I would try the original dealer 1st. Good luck Allan

Thanks Allen, and for you help previously on this. I sent email to them today. I PM'ed it to you. I thought the same thing, of selling it back to them, but unfortunately I stupidly spent the better part of 60,000 baht getting the thing to run properly. It was a near complete wreck when I got it. I have replaced or repaired dam_n near everything, so I would be selling them back a bike in very good condition. To their credit when I complained about the condition they actually sent me 10,000 baht. That's 10,000 baht more than I had expected to get from them. I will have to rationalize it by asking myself what would it have cost to rent such a bike for 9 months.

To keep my post partially on topic, here is a spec PDF and a couple pics of the ER6f I hadn't seen before. God, it's like porn this.

ER_6f.pdf

[LivinLOS]

Yes I have book and plate. Your explanation makes as much sense as any.

I've checked and the book matches the numbers on the bike.

If the book matches both engine and frame.. Then we are once again into weird territory.. Have a look at the page 18 info and see if it has taxes paid on the bike as import as parts and see if the same frame and engine numbers are listed.

14k sounds high to fix that.. Even if it needs engine taxes paid that seems high for a second hand imported engine.

Good luck

EDIT :: It just clicked.. Your on Phuket are you not ?? Suddenly everything is becoming clear.. The most unfriendly big bike province in the country strikes again !!

Lol yes. Thanks for the info LILOS.

I'm going to stray OT again for a minute, but I don't really want to start a new topic because many of you here are aware of my situation and have already helped me out.

As you may know, I have had numerous problems getting my '93 CBR 400RR registered which I bought from a supposed "reputable" shop in Chang Mai. The initial issue was the lack of import tax paid (page 18) which appears to be a problem only here in Phuket. Well my situation has taken a stomach churning turn. After I found a potential buyer in Samui and thought I had the page 18 problem solved, I thought I would do a double transfer. First into my name (since I already signed transfer papers from old owner at the urging of Phuket Land Transport Department (LTD)) Indeed they didn't seem to care about import taxes at the in Surathani LTD, even the old owner/sellers visa being expired was no problem. However, once we got to the point where we had the bike inspected, they told me that the engine is not original, and thus the book is fake/no good and it can not be registered or sold legally in Thailand. Thinking back now, I believe this was also a problem my fixer guy was trying to explain to me when I originally tried to get it registered in Phuket. That time he wanted 14k baht to do it. I have decided it is pointless to pay the 14k baht because, although that will get it into my name, it still will be an illegal bike, and technically unsellable. As best as I could tell, the fact that engine number ends in 370 and the frame ends in 366 is the problem. (See picture) The Surrathani LTD said my only option is to take the bike to the police to have it inspected. Since I'm not big on donations to the Royal Thai Police, I declined. And yes, I asked how much to fix the problem, and they wouldn't go for it.

One potential solution, if I sell it to someone outside of Thailand, will these problems prevent me from de-registering it in Thailand? It seems that is what all these rules are aimed at doing anyway, getting these bikes off Thai roads so they don't compete with the new big bikes being made here now.

I am shocked that a "reputable" shop would be selling illegal bikes like this. Any suggestions what direction I should take? I'm thinking first step is make a report with Chang Mai police before pursuing legal action.

Hiya,

Sorry its taken a turn like this.. I did suggest just cutting your losses and selling it for what you can get, booked as it is, or ride it till the wheels fall off.. I know thats not ideal but really you cant be talking much money and the time involved is just not worth it to me.

Secondly if you were being asked for 14k for an engine change registration that sounds like the tax required and it should then be legal ?? Of course that needs to be found from the fixer but a 'look the other way' change is usually much less. I would also ask did you not check engine number and frame number versus whats in the book ??

Am I right in understanding you now signed the old transfer docs you had thereby screwing them up or later use ?? Thats the kind of sh1t phuket pull I know... Just sign that and all will be fine, then it gets used and invalidated and they turn around and go "oh no its not" 5 mins later and your docs are screwed. It took me 3 months to et my 100% legal bike into my name through them with multiple docs done over and over and them being dicks at every stage. If the sellers wife wasnt a paralegal from a well known local law office it would never have happened. If you still had the docs I would try the sale on Samui or up north and see if it can go through there, Phuket are known to be awful.

You can export it but will anyone buy it at a price that makes sense ?? I mean shipping it somewhere is the value of an old CBR ??

As to police reports.. I cant imagine they would do anything more than laugh.. A farang ripped off on a bike with a pony book ?? WOW really ?? Its a clear buyer beware market.

EDIT :: as stated that book is for something wildly different to your bike.. Its a clear open and shut case of a pony book.. Phuket are well within thier remit to not allow its transfer. Give it away or ride it till it dies. Its worth 30k or less.

[ScubaBuddha]

Am I right in understanding you now signed the old transfer docs you had thereby screwing them up or later use ??

Yes, correct. In Phuket they told me "no problem" and told me to sign. Then next day, "Oh sorry, I didn't see it was 400cc." I am pretty sure, however, a double transfer to a new buyer would have been a possibility if I didn't have the frame/engine number issue. This is what we nearly did in Surrithani.

You can export it but will anyone buy it at a price that makes sense ?? I mean shipping it somewhere is the value of an old CBR ??

Actually, I have had a few legitimate inquiries from overseas. Some are likely scammers, but some are from known established board members of other forums so probably legit. Of course this is IF I am able to even de-register it for export, which is my next question for you all since it seems my only option. I received a few shipping quotes and they are not quite the cost of the bike itself. 23,000 baht to Mexico. 32,000 baht to N America.

As to police reports.. I cant imagine they would do anything more than laugh.. A farang ripped off on a bike with a pony book ?? WOW really ?? Its a clear buyer beware market.

Yeah but ripped off from a big, "reputable" shop? I did my research, they had a good, long reputation. The police can laugh all they want, but I would hope even the Royal Thai Police aren't so utterly useless as to turn me away when I ask for police report. <deleted> are they here for anyway? Yeah, I know I'm going to get some heat for that comment.

I had another local buyer that was willing to buy the bike even after I explained all the issues as long as I could get it in his name. So today I contacted my fixer guy to inquire again about the 14,000 baht he said it would cost to put in my name a few months ago. He told me things have changed in the last couple months, and someone with a similar problem as me just tried to pay 30,000 baht and could not get the bike changed to Phuket or name changed. I was planning on discounting the 14k off the price, but now that's not even an option. I'm back to square one. Now my only option is to "drive the wheels off it" as you put it, export it, or sell it as it is.

So my questions now are, (then I'll stay OT, promise):

1) If I or someone else keeps riding it, will we be able to buy the insurance/tax "sticker" each year that we used to have displayed on the bike?

2.) Is a phony book going to prohibit me from de-registering the bike for export?

I was really hoping to use the money from the sale for the down payment on the ER6f (See how it's all on-topic now?)

[LivinLOS]

1) If I or someone else keeps riding it, will we be able to buy the insurance/tax "sticker" each year that we used to have displayed on the bike?

2.) Is a phony book going to prohibit me from de-registering the bike for export?

1) no they really do not currently check books and bikes.. You can even use the 'free agents' around who do the running to the DMV so the bike never goes there. However if you have an accident I would expect insurance to try to not pay.

2) I dont know what de-registering you can be forced to do.. I mean ride out to KL if thats a problem ?? I would just ship it out and leave it registered, not like its in your name to haunt you is it ?? How do they know its not smashed, died, etc.

I am amazed that it has enough value to ship personally tho.

[ScubaBuddha]

1) no they really do not currently check books and bikes.. You can even use the 'free agents' around who do the running to the DMV so the bike never goes there. However if you have an accident I would expect insurance to try to not pay.

Good to hear.

2) I dont know what de-registering you can be forced to do.. I mean ride out to KL if thats a problem ?? I would just ship it out and leave it registered, not like its in your name to haunt you is it ?? How do they know its not smashed, died, etc.

According to some sources I found, it's required before it can be shipped out. Not sure who requires it or why, but that's what I've been told by 2 shipping companies and from a TVBM. They fill in the last page in the book with some kind of notation. I just moments ago gave all my documents to the shipping company rep and she is going to make sure we can de-register it. She seems to think so.

To quote you in another post, it's "value to the buyer." My experience has been lots of people are looking for these bikes in markets where they were never sold. Usually they tell me that even with shipping it's a way better deal then something they can get locally. Time will tell if this is true.

[thaicbr]

Scuba. one thing to think of is you cannot deregister a bike that is not legally registered. Also LIVIN. if ya look at the book in post 181. the engine and frame number are in the greenbook. What Scuba has been told is that these numbers have to have the last three digits matching as on Thai made bikes.

Livin...Maybe have a look at your bike and book do the last three numbers match both the frame and the engine.

[LivinLOS]

Scuba. one thing to think of is you cannot deregister a bike that is not legally registered. Also LIVIN. if ya look at the book in post 181. the engine and frame number are in the greenbook. What Scuba has been told is that these numbers have to have the last three digits matching as on Thai made bikes.

Livin...Maybe have a look at your bike and book do the last three numbers match both the frame and the engine.

Last 3 numbers dont match on any of my bikes (I think, not there to check).. I am sure thats not the rule.. They dont come matching.

He has a bike with an engine number that doesnt match the book, and the engine says its a single cyl not a 4 cyl.. Thats the objections.

[ScubaBuddha]

Scuba. one thing to think of is you cannot deregister a bike that is not legally registered. Also LIVIN. if ya look at the book in post 181. the engine and frame number are in the greenbook. What Scuba has been told is that these numbers have to have the last three digits matching as on Thai made bikes.

Livin...Maybe have a look at your bike and book do the last three numbers match both the frame and the engine.

Last 3 numbers dont match on any of my bikes (I think, not there to check).. I am sure thats not the rule.. They dont come matching.

He has a bike with an engine number that doesnt match the book, and the engine says its a single cyl not a 4 cyl.. Thats the objections.

LivingLOS, engine and frame number DO match the book, but the last three digits were slightly off from each other. 366 to 370. maybe I assumed too much. I thought they were saying that the numbers had to be the same. But if that is wrong then what I can say for sure is that at least one of the numbers didn't match with the information the Land Trasport Department had on file from Honda for this bike. I was assuming they were telling me they had to match. I had a translator but they weren't very good. It may very well be that the numbers 370 and 366 not matching isn't the problem. They did seem to indicate it was a possibility the numbers had been rubbed off and re-tapped. I still think it's possible the Land Transport has the wrong info in this, because if you look here: http://www.fireblades.org/forums/honda-cbr...ifications.html the fourth model down is mine, and it would appear the numbers fit.

Anyway, I'm so done with it all. I appreciate everyones help, but I dont want to go OT here anymore or think about it anymore or bother others with it anymore. I am going to either ship it out (if I can) or try to sell it with bent book and go after the company that sold it to me in the mean time. I have refrained from mentioning thier name until they indicate to me what they want to do about it.

Thanks again all for your help.

[thaicbr]

Livin. Thai made bikes do match. I checked a Friends Cbr150. I think its just crazy,lazy Thais not sure of what they are doing. So they apply one rule even when there might be 2 or 3 rules.

[LivinLOS]

I cant say with my hand on my heart as not being in Thailand now I dont have any of my books to hand.. But I am 99.9% sure that none of my bikes match frame and engine numbers. I dont recall that ever being that case. If thats really the case then this cannot be a reason Phuket wont transfer.. And what will be a huge reason Phuket wont transfer is the fact they have it as a single cyl engine.

If you look at the scan its not the last 3 digits dont match.. Its the entire numbers NC29-1050366 v NC23E-1420370 Its interesting how a legit CBR engine number is in the book with a single cyl rating. It would make more sense if it was an engine number from some single and had been restamped. Also theres something I dont understand (and cant look at the books I hold to check) but theres something there about 2 tyre 2 tube that I dont remember being on my books.

Whats on Page 18 may have a bearing too.. On some of my books that gives the tax paid at import on the engine. and would include the engine number presumably.

[katabeachbum]

There are 2 more pages to check to get the full picture.

But its reason to believe this is a 100cc single sylinder bike, with replaced engine. They forgot to change the sylinders, and I m sure the actual engine is less than 400cc, like 398cc because of japanese tax laws less than 400cc.

At least this book is of similar age as actual bike.

I m afraid I v seen this just too many times.

Scuba, I would contact seller and demand refund for bikes purchase and your costs. The police wont help you here or in CM. Someone else has been supporting them for a long time.

Been there, done that. One of my bikes where 2 years old (every part made in 2005 and 2006) and when book arrived it was 16 years old 100cc rebuild by myself as a 500cc with imported scrap. Got every baht back from seller, and book deregistered. If not i would have handed bike to organized crime unit in BKK, and lost every baht, but at least revenge would have been sweet. And cleared my name out of it.

Cut the losses

Good luck

[LivinLOS]

The frame and engine numbers are both honda numbers for that make / model and approx year.. Its the single cyl being wrong on a correct engine number thats screwey, I mean if it was a single cyl engine number would make sense.. Not this.

[BigBikeBKK]

^ Dudes...

What does any of this have to do with the Kawasaki ER6f?

Perhaps you could start a new thread?

Thanks!

Tony

[katabeachbum]

The frame and engine numbers are both honda numbers for that make / model and approx year.. Its the single cyl being wrong on a correct engine number thats screwey, I mean if it was a single cyl engine number would make sense.. Not this.

Any info including framenumber can be replaced by DMV in book/computer. This time just sloppy with single sylinder and inaccurate with 400cc.

To find the reality, have to check in DMV the origin of this book. I used someone in gouvernors office to do so. Cost me 5 k to get the full history printed, and another 5k to advice the seller and local police. Added these 10 k to my refund claim against seller. Really didnt want this scam in my name, so what the...............

One owner 16 year old yammy 100cc, rebuild by me as Tmax 500cc 2 months after I took delivery of Tmax on redplates and within few days after transfering book to me. Plenty of fake signatures similar to mine

Buying a big bike is all about trust, and in few I trust. Kawasaki LOS is one of them, but not enough for a 50k deposit to Phuket dealer. To get it back on tracks, can we assume 3 months to delivery "f" ?

[LivinLOS]

The frame and engine numbers are both honda numbers for that make / model and approx year.. Its the single cyl being wrong on a correct engine number thats screwey, I mean if it was a single cyl engine number would make sense.. Not this.

Any info including framenumber can be replaced by DMV in book/computer. This time just sloppy with single sylinder and inaccurate with 400cc.

I have been continually told the frame number is not ever under any circumstances, changeable.. Thats been bribeable changes too and engine number is usually possible for a small fee..

^ Dudes...

What does any of this have to do with the Kawasaki ER6f?

Perhaps you could start a new thread?

Thanks!

Tony

Sorry Boss

[BigBikeBKK]

This was posted on www.er6thailand.com today:

"Congratulations on your soon to come new bike. Mr.Saleperson said that in the early of August

Ninja 650R will be available!!!!!!!!!!!"

My reply-

Early August? Really!!!

I will be sooooooo happy!

[ScubaBuddha]

This was posted on www.er6thailand.com today:

"Congratulations on your soon to come new bike. Mr.Saleperson said that in the early of August

Ninja 650R will be available!!!!!!!!!!!"

My reply-

Early August? Really!!!

I will be sooooooo happy!

Kawasaki Phuket strikes again!

[neverdie]

Nice!

[ScubaBuddha]

I've been browsing that forum Tony posted above, er6thailand, using Google translate, and found some interesting threads, all posts posted within the last few days:

http://72.14.213.132/translate_c?hl=EN&amp...hzSwrW477dEzLEQ

http://72.14.213.132/translate_c?hl=EN&amp...7zMPCL11qd9IggQ

These pictures look like they are from Thailand. The bike has Thai written on the tank. Not sure but I think that first link shows a price list with the price of the ER6f at 257k baht, but it says "Ninja 650R." Some one should call that mobile number. Can someone translate?

The topic of the second thread seems to be the contiguous color on the lower fairing. I think someone surmises it's a 2010 ER6f. And why does the bike say Ninja on the side if it's in Thailand? Not that I care, I'm just glad we finally see some light at the end of the tunnel!! Tony should get his call any day now!!!

[BigBikeBKK]

I've been browsing that forum Tony posted above, er6thailand, and found some interesting threads, all posts posted within the last few days:

http://72.14.213.132/translate_c?hl=EN&amp...hzSwrW477dEzLEQ

http://72.14.213.132/translate_c?hl=EN&amp...7zMPCL11qd9IggQ

These pictures look like they are from Thailand. The bike has Thai written on the tank. Not sure but I think that first link shows a price list with the price of the ER6f at 257k baht, but it says "Ninja 650R." Some one should call that mobile number. Can someone translate?

The topic of the second thread seems to be the contiguous color on the lower fairing. I think someone surmises it's a 2010 ER6f. And why does the bike say Ninja on the side if it's in Thailand? Not that I care, I'm just glad we finally see some light at the end of the tunnel!! Tony should get his call any day now!!!

Woohoo!

I'm not waiting for any call- I'm heading down to Kwackerzaki Rama 9 tomorrow morning to find out when I'm getting my new bike! Wonder if it'll be an ER6f or a Ninja 650R? Same same but different

[thaicbr]

also er6n has abs and gone up in price. What with it being the 25th Ninja anniversary this year maybe they decided Ninja 650

[ScubaBuddha]

also er6n has abs and gone up in price. What with it being the 25th Ninja anniversary this year maybe they decided Ninja 650

So are we all getting 2010 models then you think? If the 2009 to 2010 upgrade in price in the N (20,000baht) is equal to that of the f , then the 2009 f should be 237k!

The blackening of the passenger handle is a nice touch. I'de like to see what the all plasma blue fairing looks like. I went by Phuket Kwakers today to check on things but they were closed. Tomorrow for sure.

[neverdie]

Very nice ! I can just see tony bouncing around his house tonight in his underwear....sorry not such a nice image

[ScubaBuddha]

Very nice ! I can just see tony bouncing around his house tonight in his underwear....sorry not such a nice image

Neverdie, there is already video of this:

It even looks like him!!!

[neverdie]

^Yeah thats him alright, the only thing missing is the er6n parked in the main loungeroom and everyone here knows he would of been rubbing himself all over that

[bkktt]

also er6n has abs and gone up in price. What with it being the 25th Ninja anniversary this year maybe they decided Ninja 650

So are we all getting 2010 models then you think? If the 2009 to 2010 upgrade in price in the N (20,000baht) is equal to that of the f , then the 2009 f should be 237k!

The blackening of the passenger handle is a nice touch. I'de like to see what the all plasma blue fairing looks like. I went by Phuket Kwakers today to check on things but they were closed. Tomorrow for sure.

Good day Gents,

I have been in the Kawasaki showroom yesterday and to my BIG surprise I have seen the er6F in their showroom. Never expected it to be there that fast....Has the Thai time-machine finaly been callibrated??

ER6F? Not realy because the salesman told me that the name had been changed into NINJA 650R.

The price of the bike is indeed 258000 Bath and a finance is available. The nice salesman will be more then happy to hand out an A4 paper with all relevant info (if my memory serves me well : 80000 downpayment and then approx 6500 for 2 years give or take and insurance approx 13000)

The new models are 2010 the guy told me with a big smile on his face...."because we(the Thai) make the bike..."

The 2010 model ER6n is now only available in geen/black and no longer in orange. (did not like it anyway....but as you know tastes differ....otherwise we would all be married to the same girl...)

Cheers guys....and keep on dreaming!!!