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Interchange station names
One of the issues to highlight are station names at interchange stations. The nominal name of BTS Latphrao Intersection station prompted me to mention this.
 
The general international practice is to have the same station name for different lines in the same geographic location, especially where they interchange. You don't see Hong Kong or Singapore using diff names and in Paris or London for example you can have anywhere between 3 to 5 diff lines interchanging at one location using the same station name.
 
Here with the lack of integration and different operators, the practice has not been implemented even though the BMA acknowledged that it is an issue a couple of years ago.
 
egs. BTS Mo Chit and MRT Chatuchak
BTS Asoke and MRT Sukhumvit
BTS Sala Daeng and MRT Silom
We do have a BTS Phaya Thai and an ARL Phaya Thai though and we will have an MRT Blue line Bang Wah which will interchange with BTS Bang Wah.
 
This will become more of a problem as more lines open. For example, the Yellow line will start at Ratchada station directly above MRT Latphrao. Similarly, the Yellow line Pattanakhan station will interchange with ARL Hua Mark. There is inconsistency which currently causes confusion for pax and will do more so in the future.
They should change it now.
The earlier the better.
It might cause some confusion though the network is still small yet so it might be easier to introduce.
And also easier for people to remember
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Another thing, on the MRTA busses I saw a advertising about a Hino Hybrid bus purchased with help of Jica Agency.
Does someone know more about this?

Being pessimistic / realistic I would guess they just purchased one demonstration model while for a public service with hybrid busses we'll probably have to wait for a decade.

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1 hour ago, CLW said:

Another thing, on the MRTA busses I saw a advertising about a Hino Hybrid bus purchased with help of Jica Agency.
Does someone know more about this?

Being pessimistic / realistic I would guess they just purchased one demonstration model while for a public service with hybrid busses we'll probably have to wait for a decade.

Do they have public hybrid buses in germany?

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I may have missed it in News, but the first of BTS's new trains has arrived.

 

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Current planning puts the new trains in service when the extension past Samrong opens in December.

 

Made by Siemens and taking a lead from the MRT these 4-car trains have at least one "seatless" car.

 

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How will this station Tha Pra work as an interchange station? It has three blue lines merging on it. Does everyone get off and change trains to proceed? Is one line a through line (and if so, which one?)?

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How will this station Tha Pra work as an interchange station? It has three blue lines merging on it. Does everyone get off and change trains to proceed? Is one line a through line (and if so, which one?)?

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Another thing, on the MRTA busses I saw a advertising about a Hino Hybrid bus purchased with help of Jica Agency.
Does someone know more about this?

Being pessimistic / realistic I would guess they just purchased one demonstration model while for a public service with hybrid busses we'll probably have to wait for a decade.
Hybrid bus (or busses) now in Service passing Chatuchak Park. I think it was bus line #164
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I may have missed it in News, but the first of BTS's new trains has arrived.
 
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Current planning puts the new trains in service when the extension past Samrong opens in December.
 
Made by Siemens and taking a lead from the MRT these 4-car trains have at least one "seatless" car.
 
I read in the news this week that soon also one new MRT train will arrive. Followed by more next year.

It's been quiet about ARL purchases. The last news I heard that they plan to change some express line trains to commuter trains. Are those the missing trains that had some problems about the maintenance contract?
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1 hour ago, Number 6 said:

How much do these cars cost? Such as a subway or new BTS car?

There were issues about payments to Siemens when the whole skytrain was built.

 

So i guess they might cost a little more this time.

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On 9/23/2014 at 11:06 AM, Lakegeneve said:
Blue Line extension - Tha Phra station

 

A great pic here of Blue Line extension Tha Phra station construction site. It will be built above the intersection of Phetkasem rd & Charan Sanit Wong rd (Inner Ring rd) which has a flyover.

 

 

Tha Phra station is unique as it is an interchange station for the same line - very rare in the world. Both levels serve the Blue Line, which is a fake loop line. The design also means that the Blue line can be extended further south along the Inner Ring rd in the future if required. (See the following post regarding the Grey line).

 

 

 

Although, an extension west further along Phetkasem rd is currently being evaluated and will the first priority for any possible future extensions of this line once this extension is complete.

 

 

 

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How will this station Tha Pra work as an interchange station? It has three blue lines merging on it. Does everyone get off and change trains to proceed? Is one line a through line (and if so, which one?)?

Crossy already answered you, but I have quoted an old post which shows the station design and render which may also help.

 

There is also this recent MRTA PR video filmed at Tha Pra station which starts with a still of a birds eye view of the station;. Thankfully, the music is a little better than normal too;

 
 

 

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On 6/5/2018 at 1:23 PM, Lakegeneve said:

ARL update:

The Eastern HSR tender is out and the expectation is that a winning bid will be awarded by July/August with work commencing by the end of the year ....if all goes smoothly - which it never does! http://www.railway.co.th/download/2561/Invitation-to-Tender-HSR3Airports.pdf

 

The Transport Ministry has decided that whoever wins the bid to build and run the Eastern HSR will also take over operating the ARL. The SRTET will be abolished and a new SRT entity will be established to manage the 4 planned HSR lines.

 

I now estimate that any new rolling stock for the ARL will not be available until 2022 at the earliest unless the previously mentioned leasing plan come to fruition - knowing the SRT it probably won't.

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I read in the news this week that soon also one new MRT train will arrive. Followed by more next year.

It's been quiet about ARL purchases. The last news I heard that they plan to change some express line trains to commuter trains. Are those the missing trains that had some problems about the maintenance contract?

CLW, no change to what I posted a few months ago. Expect not to see any new rolling stock before 2022..............

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5 hours ago, Lakegeneve said:

Crossy already answered you, but I have quoted an old post which shows the station design and render which may also help.

 

There is also this recent MRTA PR video filmed at Tha Pra station which starts with a still of a birds eye view of the station;. Thankfully, the music is a little better than normal too;

 
 

 

Thanks for an informative post, as always.

 

It looks like a really well designed station!  Wide concourses, plenty of space, and decent sized lifts.  Have they finally got the hang of designing these things now and have learnt from experience?  Or is it just that this is an interchange station so they have more space?

 

I am a great fan of all the mass transit systems here and think they are great for the city, although aware of their shortfalls.  Looks like they have been addressed here.

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And I find it fascinating that such thin pillars can support such enormous weight and such an enormous structure above - it just looks so strange.  Kudos to the engineers and designers.  Pretty sure the shop house owners wouldn't be quite so awestruck though.

 

 

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Reading some of the previous posts again, I see what is the light green line on one map is called dark green elsewhere so not before 2020?

 

I hope it's better engineered than its website... ?  This Domain Name Has Expired    

 

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On 8/29/2018 at 4:54 PM, josephbloggs said:

 

I am a great fan of all the mass transit systems here and think they are great for the city, although aware of their shortfalls.  Looks like they have been addressed here.

 

 

I am also a fan of mass transit systems. But I have some serious doubts re the wisdom of what they are doing in BKK ++.

I am reasonably sure they will strongly regret this within 10 years.

 

Several new transport systems are being designed and built, all incompatible,

electric light

skytrain

mrt-underground

srt

monorail

and I am sure there are more

 

If you look at BKK, you do not need to go far from the city centre before you find large areas of undeveloped land,

can be used for housing can be used for business or both.

When that happens a major shift in transport requirements will surface. In order to cater for that you need flexibility

in the transport network. You dont have that. Too many incompatible systems.

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