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redrus Platinum Member

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Yawn.....

<deleted> grow a pair.

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P45Mustang Gold Member

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It's piling on, I know, but United would have been more competitive this season if they had hired an inspirational manager with a track record of winning something in the EPL and Europe, or my aunty Maureen.wink.png.pagespeed.ce.HJgPQ3U3SA.png

Yep. Not Mourhino, my aunty Maureen.

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redrus Platinum Member

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I think we can officially agree this is a United decline. Your bladdy rubbish ladstongue.png

'You're', you illiterate bitter <deleted>.

Oooh, bitter, no, that seems to be me..:-/

As you were....:)

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StevieH Platinum Member

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"stewards being asked to guard the chosen one banner". jesus the decline of united from champions ten months ago to this is mental.

redrus Platinum Member

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That's not bad for you laa....;)

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Bredbury Blue Platinum Member

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Good to see you’ve kept this subject open for so long during which so much has changed in the Manchester football scene (wouldn't you agree Mrbojangles...good to see you're still giving it to them, well done).

When I started this thread in 2005, I wanted to see did others think as I did that ManU were on the slippery slopes which would come to a head with the impending resignation of Fergie (i.e. knowing what happened after Busby retired and the +26 years between being English champions – seasons 66-67 to 92-93). Well old red nose didn’t retire and fair play to HIM, he kept it going at ManU.

So now Fergie has retired and gone...are we witnessing a decline or will all be right come the summer?

P45Mustang Gold Member

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Bredbury Blue knows what happened after Busby retired.

History looks to be repeating itself:

"Matt Busby called me into his office and said: 'Wilf, I'm retiring and you are to be the next manager of Manchester United'. It was 'wow'. I was just delighted about it."

He recalls the moment he was called into Busby's office "around Christmas time" in 1970.

"He said: 'I'm very sorry, Wilf. You can have your old job back, but I am taking over Manchester United until we get a new manager'.

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Bredbury Blue knows what happened after Busby retired.

History looks to be repeating itself:

"Matt Busby called me into his office and said: 'Wilf, I'm retiring and you are to be the next manager of Manchester United'. It was 'wow'. I was just delighted about it."

He recalls the moment he was called into Busby's office "around Christmas time" in 1970.

"He said: 'I'm very sorry, Wilf. You can have your old job back, but I am taking over Manchester United until we get a new manager'.

Dunno about that lad....I doubt that Everton will take him back!wink.png

mrbojangles Star Member

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Good to see you’ve kept this subject open for so long during which so much has changed in the Manchester football scene (wouldn't you agree Mrbojangles...good to see you're still giving it to them, well done).

When I started this thread in 2005, I wanted to see did others think as I did that ManU were on the slippery slopes which would come to a head with the impending resignation of Fergie (i.e. knowing what happened after Busby retired and the +26 years between being English champions – seasons 66-67 to 92-93). Well old red nose didn’t retire and fair play to HIM, he kept it going at ManU.

So now Fergie has retired and gone...are we witnessing a decline or will all be right come the summer?

Aaaah. Nice to see you again Bred.

Well, it took circa 8 years (due to Fergie extending his retirement plans) but as predicted, the decline has most certainly arrived. All we have to hope now is that they keep Moyes tongue.png

P45Mustang Gold Member

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Ouch!!!!!

But never mind all this historical stuff guys.

The next battle has already begun.

City, Liverpool and Chelsea.thumbsup.gif

United's return? How long is a piece of string.

Interesting to hear Bredbury Blue talk btw.

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redrus Platinum Member

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Good to see you back BB, missed your input fella. Got boring with all the repetitiveness and missing faces.

We were in recline, I fear after Moyes comments last night, we are in decline. I could take the defeats soooo much better, if he would just bloody fight a bit, it's embarrassing and last night, I fear again, was the straw for the dromedaries back.

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P45Mustang Gold Member

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@ redrus

recline, decline?

Whatever you want to call it, it was obvious from day 1 of Moyes appointment.

It was never going to work.

For the reasons that people like carmine have been articulating for months.

Ferguson got it wrong. Badly wrong.

He needs to stand up and be honourable about it.

Cos it won't go away.

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P45Mustang Gold Member

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Man U are fkcd, that's what's new.

A statement of fact: neither wishful thinking or jealousy about the past.coffee1.gif

AYE RIGHT....But we do have a GREAT History don't you agree ???? post-4641-1156694083.gif

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Totally agree. And that is what seems to be holding you back.

Let's just wait and see shall we. We will give him time for sure.

bt

How long?

smokie36 Star Member

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Good to see you back BB, missed your input fella. Got boring with all the repetitiveness and missing faces.

We were in recline, I fear after Moyes comments last night, we are in decline. I could take the defeats soooo much better, if he would just bloody fight a bit, it's embarrassing and last night, I fear again, was the straw for the dromedaries back.

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In my opinion...with a couple of exceptions...that the players are simply not good enough.

I was astonished that at least three quality players didn't arrive last summer and now your team will be playing a huge catch up.

Good luck with that as I don't see the Glazers spending £200m....or even half that amount.

Looks like only Rodgers has the mettle to take on the huge cash cows of the Premiership.

Not much solace in that I suppose rus but its the truth....without the genius of SAF you are just another team chasing at best third.

Bredbury Blue Platinum Member

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Decline Recline...seems to be some acceptance of decline now by our Red colleagues (as represented by redrus clap2.gif )...

So the next questions to the Reds...will Moyes be sacked, and if yes, when?

From a Utd website poll on whether Moyes should stay or go – looks like he’ll be going soon.

http://www.stretford-end.com/2014/03/manchester-united-0-3-manchester-city-tactical-breakdown/?utm_source=newsnow&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=senn

Do you think David Moyes should be sacked?

Yes 61.16% (825 votes)

No 28.17% (380 votes)

Undecided 10.67% (144 votes)

Total Votes: 1,349

redrus Platinum Member

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I would still be behind Moyes 100%, even if we'd lost the same amount of games, and points, if the tactics were better, if there was some life, some spark about him, about the team.

Wins against Olympiakos and West Ham do not fill the gap created by a complete lack of passion.

If the Liverpool and City games had been 0-1's, 2-3 battles to the end, we could cope, improvement would be great, we've shown stanch support for a man that, it seems, is not willing to use the brain he has and, I think that the time is now right to make the change, I mean, it can't get any worse........, can it.:-/ :)

I'm still positive about United as a whole, I certainly don't believe that we'll wait 20+ years for another trophy, we just need the right man, Hiddink, Klopp, Guardiola would be nice.... We'll see, but Moyes time is surly up, and for once, Fergie must eat humble pie..!!

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I would still be behind Moyes 100%, even if we'd lost the same amount of games, and points, if the tactics were better, if there was some life, some spark about him, about the team.

Wins against Olympiakos and West Ham do not fill the gap created by a complete lack of passion.

If the Liverpool and City games had been 0-1's, 2-3 battles to the end, we could cope, improvement would be great, we've shown stanch support for a man that, it seems, is not willing to use the brain he has and, I think that the time is now right to make the change, I mean, it can't get any worse........, can it.:-/ smile.png

I'm still positive about United as a whole, I certainly don't believe that we'll wait 20+ years for another trophy, we just need the right man, Hiddink, Klopp, Guardiola would be nice.... We'll see, but Moyes time is surly up, and for once, Fergie must eat humble pie..!!

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No chance-Moyes will stick it out and turn it round,no problem thumbsup.gif

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B o l l o x

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P45Mustang Gold Member

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I would still be behind Moyes 100%, even if we'd lost the same amount of games, and points, if the tactics were better, if there was some life, some spark about him, about the team.

Wins against Olympiakos and West Ham do not fill the gap created by a complete lack of passion.

If the Liverpool and City games had been 0-1's, 2-3 battles to the end, we could cope, improvement would be great, we've shown stanch support for a man that, it seems, is not willing to use the brain he has and, I think that the time is now right to make the change, I mean, it can't get any worse........, can it.:-/ smile.png

I'm still positive about United as a whole, I certainly don't believe that we'll wait 20+ years for another trophy, we just need the right man, Hiddink, Klopp, Guardiola would be nice.... We'll see, but Moyes time is surly up, and for once, Fergie must eat humble pie..!!

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Tactics and passion were never his strong suits rr.

Rocket science?

Might as well leave it til Bayern send in the zeppelin.

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redrus Platinum Member

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P45, passion should be a given, he was at times passionate and often emotive at Everton, and seriously, if you can't get excited and passionate about managing Manchester United, then you are, in the wrong job, maybe even the wrong career.

Tactics is totally different, Ferigie was no tactician, not one bit, thats why you have staff, and Fergie had lots of them, from Kiddo, to Queroz and McClaren and Phelan.... They were his 'behind every great man, there's a great coach' type, its no coincidence that when he didn't have one, we struggled.

The difference I fear, is man management, and Moyes seems to have lost all his. Fergie just got better and stronger at it. Sad, but Moyes is breaking, he is far too nice for this job, it seems.

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P45Mustang Gold Member

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P45, passion should be a given, he was at times passionate and often emotive at Everton, and seriously, if you can't get excited and passionate about managing Manchester United, then you are, in the wrong job, maybe even the wrong career.

Tactics is totally different, Ferigie was no tactician, not one bit, thats why you have staff, and Fergie had lots of them, from Kiddo, to Queroz and McClaren and Phelan.... They were his 'behind every great man, there's a great coach' type, its no coincidence that when he didn't have one, we struggled.

The difference I fear, is man management, and Moyes seems to have lost all his. Fergie just got better and stronger at it. Sad, but Moyes is breaking, he is far too nice for this job, it seems.

redrus

Understood redrus.

Mourinho does it all. Tremendous pressure at this level.

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