DNA results from Ko Tao village head’s son don't match traces on slain British tourists

[StealthEnergiser]

I think the CSI person has been invited as he is a member of rotary and has been acknowledged for helping people in other situations.

[retsdon]

I feel for families. Hope they found peace one day.

Ive lost meny friends for bikes and normal deaths 2. Yet never i have blamed place where they been at time.

People die and get robbed everyday everywhere at world.

Im pretty shure Koh tao aint top of that list .

Thats all ive tryed to say.

Quess thats hard to understand.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.'

Nobody asks to be cast into the role of 'good men'. Mostly, it's a rotten hand to be dealt. But sometimes, that's just how the cards fall. You either step up or your world, and your children's world, takes a step back into the darkness.

It might be unfair, but that's just how it works.

[SteveFong]

island life made some other asinine comment about people having accidents all over the world, and then blame it ONLY on Thailand when they have an accident here?

tell that to the two British cyclists that were killed by a 25 year old truck driver, who ws charged with killing them and driving recklessly,

and who served no time,

and was fined 300 baht

[retsdon]

island life made some other asinine comment about people having accidents all over the world, and then blame it ONLY on Thailand when they have an accident here?

tell that to the two British cyclists that were killed by a 25 year old truck driver, who ws charged with killing them and driving recklessly,

and who served no time,

and was fined 300 baht

Driving stupidly - I don't know - plenty of us have done it, especially in our youth. There but for the Grace of God, quite honestly. Not comparable with raping someone, smacking their head in, and then re-positioning the corpse to humiliate their memory.

[IslandLover]

SteveFong, on 20 Nov 2014 - 20:52, said:

what astounds me about the people who reply to jdinasia,

he will have no choice but to go away if people stop replying to him,

he has used this name for years, and a simple search showed me what we are dealing with here,

a face like that would never challenge people in real life,

so why do people give him any credibility here, in the faceless world of TV?

a face like that would never challenge people in real life

Oh dear, I see what you mean

[KunMatt]

Not really.

Just wanted to see how far your hypocrisy would go, claiming to know the "truth"

Obviously it is boundless.

Of all people you are the last that should be able to be a judge on where the truth lies, you've been trying to sell the same fairy tale now since the beginning: "Once upon a time there were two drunk child-like small Burmese guys who, for no reason at all, miraculously overcame a fit young 6'3" British guy and a British girl without making a sound for anyone to hear, brutally killing the girl on the spot but for some reason only knocking out the man and dragging his big heavy body into the water to drown instead of brutally killing him on the beach in the same way. And all of the many local thugs and mafia who run the island, and were in no way involved, all lived happily ever after. The end."

Edited November 21, 2014 by KunMatt

[jdinasia]

Not really.

Just wanted to see how far your hypocrisy would go, claiming to know the "truth"

Obviously it is boundless.

Of all people you are the last that should be able to be a judge on where the truth lies, you've been trying to sell the same fairy tale now since the beginning: "Once upon a time there were two drunk child-like small Burmese guys who, for no reason at all, miraculously overcame a fit young 6'3" British guy and a British girl without making a sound for anyone to hear, brutally killing the girl on the spot but for some reason only knocking out the man and dragging his big heavy body into the water to drown instead of brutally killing him on the beach in the same way. And all of the many local thugs and mafia who run the island, and were in no way involved, all lived happily ever after. The end."

Not for me to judge. For some reason I think you may never have been to Koh Tao.

You seem to think that you are a quality detective, and can see what happened by reading some conspiracy theories online. While I think that it falls on the judicial system, not some fantasies concocted on social media.

[thailandchilli]

The UK media has upped the anti and have widespread coverage in major papers taken from the exclusive story that the Guardian ran with yesterday http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/11243931/Suspects-accused-of-British-backpacker-murders-plea-for-familys-help.html

The RTP have also now decided to meet the NHRC regards the allegations of torture, the date, 29th Dec for the meeting!! http://bangkokinformer.com/149446/thai-police-to-defend-against-torture-allegation-of-koh-tao-suspect-to-national-human-rights-commission/

Me thinks all will be over by then regards the B2

The Thai Judicial system, best in the world

Edited November 21, 2014 by thailandchilli

[KunMatt]

Not really.

Just wanted to see how far your hypocrisy would go, claiming to know the "truth"

Obviously it is boundless.

Of all people you are the last that should be able to be a judge on where the truth lies, you've been trying to sell the same fairy tale now since the beginning: "Once upon a time there were two drunk child-like small Burmese guys who, for no reason at all, miraculously overcame a fit young 6'3" British guy and a British girl without making a sound for anyone to hear, brutally killing the girl on the spot but for some reason only knocking out the man and dragging his big heavy body into the water to drown instead of brutally killing him on the beach in the same way. And all of the many local thugs and mafia who run the island, and were in no way involved, all lived happily ever after. The end."

Not for me to judge. For some reason I think you may never have been to Koh Tao.

You seem to think that you are a quality detective, and can see what happened by reading some conspiracy theories online. While I think that it falls on the judicial system, not some fantasies concocted on social media.

I have never been to Koh Tao before, I've stated it plenty of times so that's no big revelation there from you. I also don't think I'm a detective or know the whole facts but I do have my own opinion and I am open to debate it, unlike you who is only here to push your one belief onto everyone and argue against anything or anyone which points out that you may be wrong. You haven't changed your script from the minute you started your defense of the case in spite of the many, many irregularities that have come up since you started.

I've also said that I'm anti-conspiracy theorist. I've had plenty of arguments with conspiracy theorists over MH370 and he McCanns on this forum. The one pushing the conspiracy theory and cover up is you, and your methods of defending and arguing your case are pure conspiracy theorist in that they never ever admit to being wrong on any point, they never change their story or opinion from the outset despite what information comes to light that may prove them wrong and they hail anything that may confirm their theory and blatantly ignore anything that disproves it with a massive positive bias. You try to deflect this by calling everyone else a conspiracy theorist because you know that you are the conspiracy theorist on this case.

[HeijoshinCool]

Not really.

Just wanted to see how far your hypocrisy would go, claiming to know the "truth"

Obviously it is boundless.

Of all people you are the last that should be able to be a judge on where the truth lies, you've been trying to sell the same fairy tale now since the beginning: "Once upon a time there were two drunk child-like small Burmese guys who, for no reason at all, miraculously overcame a fit young 6'3" British guy and a British girl without making a sound for anyone to hear, brutally killing the girl on the spot but for some reason only knocking out the man and dragging his big heavy body into the water to drown instead of brutally killing him on the beach in the same way. And all of the many local thugs and mafia who run the island, and were in no way involved, all lived happily ever after. The end."

Not for me to judge. For some reason I think you may never have been to Koh Tao.

You seem to think that you are a quality detective, and can see what happened by reading some conspiracy theories online. While I think that it falls on the judicial system, not some fantasies concocted on social media.

.

Can't speak for Matt, but I do agree (pretty much) with what he wrote, and I was a quality detective.

[jdinasia]

Not really.

Just wanted to see how far your hypocrisy would go, claiming to know the "truth"

Obviously it is boundless.

Of all people you are the last that should be able to be a judge on where the truth lies, you've been trying to sell the same fairy tale now since the beginning: "Once upon a time there were two drunk child-like small Burmese guys who, for no reason at all, miraculously overcame a fit young 6'3" British guy and a British girl without making a sound for anyone to hear, brutally killing the girl on the spot but for some reason only knocking out the man and dragging his big heavy body into the water to drown instead of brutally killing him on the beach in the same way. And all of the many local thugs and mafia who run the island, and were in no way involved, all lived happily ever after. The end."

Not for me to judge. For some reason I think you may never have been to Koh Tao.

You seem to think that you are a quality detective, and can see what happened by reading some conspiracy theories online. While I think that it falls on the judicial system, not some fantasies concocted on social media.

.

Can't speak for Matt, but I do agree (pretty much) with what he wrote, and I was a quality detective.

Of course you were

[boomerangutang]

You seem to think that you are a quality detective, and can see what happened by reading some conspiracy theories online. While I think that it falls on the judicial system, not some fantasies concocted on social media.

you'll have faith that justice is done if the case 'falls on the judicial system' ? You got more faith than I.

Hmmm, the same Thai justice system which...

>>> Didn't acknowledge that Thaksin hid riches with his maid and chauffeur.

>>> Allowed Chaleum's son to get away with murdering a cop, after the son hid out in Cambodia for several months. The murderer's excuse: "the policeman stepped on my shoe."

>>> Allowed another rich man's son to get away with murdering a cop. I don't even know what the excuse was in that case (drunk and speeding), but it worked like a charm.

Any excuse will work for Thai officials, if the suspect is rich and/or his daddy is very rich and politically powerful. Perhaps that's why cops aren't pursuing the men who should be prime suspects in this case. The suspects are connected to a rich and politically powerful man, and even the cops know any excuse will get suspects (connected to him) off.

[jdinasia]

Not really.

Just wanted to see how far your hypocrisy would go, claiming to know the "truth"

Obviously it is boundless.

Of all people you are the last that should be able to be a judge on where the truth lies, you've been trying to sell the same fairy tale now since the beginning: "Once upon a time there were two drunk child-like small Burmese guys who, for no reason at all, miraculously overcame a fit young 6'3" British guy and a British girl without making a sound for anyone to hear, brutally killing the girl on the spot but for some reason only knocking out the man and dragging his big heavy body into the water to drown instead of brutally killing him on the beach in the same way. And all of the many local thugs and mafia who run the island, and were in no way involved, all lived happily ever after. The end."

Not for me to judge. For some reason I think you may never have been to Koh Tao.

You seem to think that you are a quality detective, and can see what happened by reading some conspiracy theories online. While I think that it falls on the judicial system, not some fantasies concocted on social media.

I have never been to Koh Tao before, I've stated it plenty of times so that's no big revelation there from you. I also don't think I'm a detective or know the whole facts but I do have my own opinion and I am open to debate it, unlike you who is only here to push your one belief onto everyone and argue against anything or anyone which points out that you may be wrong. You haven't changed your script from the minute you started your defense of the case in spite of the many, many irregularities that have come up since you started.

I've also said that I'm anti-conspiracy theorist. I've had plenty of arguments with conspiracy theorists over MH370 and he McCanns on this forum. The one pushing the conspiracy theory and cover up is you, and your methods of defending and arguing your case are pure conspiracy theorist in that they never ever admit to being wrong on any point, they never change their story or opinion from the outset despite what information comes to light that may prove them wrong and they hail anything that may confirm their theory and blatantly ignore anything that disproves it with a massive positive bias. You try to deflect this by calling everyone else a conspiracy theorist because you know that you are the conspiracy theorist on this case.

Actually, yet again you are wrong. I don't think that the 2 Burmese men accused of being the killers conspired to commit rape and murder. I think it was not pre-meditated

[KunMatt]

Actually, yet again you are wrong. I don't think that the 2 Burmese men accused of being the killers conspired to commit rape and murder. I think it was not pre-meditated

Absolutely pathetic way of yours to try and avoid the subject by changing the point and pretend you think it means something else.

[jdinasia]

Actually, yet again you are wrong. I don't think that the 2 Burmese men accused of being the killers conspired to commit rape and murder. I think it was not pre-meditated

Absolutely pathetic way of yours to try and avoid the subject by changing the point and pretend you think it means something else.

You called me a conspiracy theorist, what is the conspiracy I believe in?

[KunMatt]

Actually, yet again you are wrong. I don't think that the 2 Burmese men accused of being the killers conspired to commit rape and murder. I think it was not pre-meditated

Absolutely pathetic way of yours to try and avoid the subject by changing the point and pretend you think it means something else.

You called me a conspiracy theorist, what is the conspiracy I believe in?

This totally proves just how pathetic you are and that you just troll when you cannot argue a point.

[jdinasia]

Actually, yet again you are wrong. I don't think that the 2 Burmese men accused of being the killers conspired to commit rape and murder. I think it was not pre-meditated

Absolutely pathetic way of yours to try and avoid the subject by changing the point and pretend you think it means something else.

You called me a conspiracy theorist, what is the conspiracy I believe in?

This totally proves just how pathetic you are and that you just troll when you cannot argue a point.

Again you called me "the conspiracy theorist".. What is the conspiracy theory I ascribe to?

[KunMatt]

Again you called me "the conspiracy theorist".. What is the conspiracy theory I ascribe to?

Read the original post you replied to again properly cuz you know exactly what I am talking about but you just have to deny, ignore and deflect anything that you cannot argue.

[transam]

Hey, jdinasia........your sale by date has past, and a zillion readers are at your zillion posts as to not get to the bottom of Hannah And Dave's demise..........I for one am looking forward to stuff in the future.......Our kids mean something to some of us......Remember that....

[jdinasia]

Hey, jdinasia........your sale by date has past, and a zillion readers are at your zillion posts as to not get to the bottom of Hannah And Dave's demise..........I for one am looking forward to stuff in the future.......Our kids mean something to some of us......Remember that....

"stuff in the future "???

Me too!

Hopefully a trial of the 2 Burmese men accused of being the killers so we can see the evidence.

The results of the Inquest in the UK.

Diving.

Riding my motorcycle.

Watching Sons of Anarchy.

What "stuff" are you looking forward to?

BTW - I have been a member years longer and have about 8000 fewer posts than your "zillion"

Edited November 21, 2014 by jdinasia

[Islandlife]

Not really.

Just wanted to see how far your hypocrisy would go, claiming to know the "truth"

Obviously it is boundless.

Of all people you are the last that should be able to be a judge on where the truth lies, you've been trying to sell the same fairy tale now since the beginning: "Once upon a time there were two drunk child-like small Burmese guys who, for no reason at all, miraculously overcame a fit young 6'3" British guy and a British girl without making a sound for anyone to hear, brutally killing the girl on the spot but for some reason only knocking out the man and dragging his big heavy body into the water to drown instead of brutally killing him on the beach in the same way. And all of the many local thugs and mafia who run the island, and were in no way involved, all lived happily ever after. The end."

Not for me to judge. For some reason I think you may never have been to Koh Tao.

You seem to think that you are a quality detective, and can see what happened by reading some conspiracy theories online. While I think that it falls on the judicial system, not some fantasies concocted on social media.

U paint that all burmese are saints. Yet moust of burglaries,petty theft is done here by burmese here. I do understand its bcase they get paid less. World aint fair place. I know...

Its the young and moustly English chav chicks who all have burmese boy friend on their gap year toyboy friend.

These lads take full advantage of desire from these young girls.

Also meny time ive seen these young girls been stalked ,black eyed as suddenly they realiced love is not in the air no more..but bcase cultural difrence between asia and europe, the boys wont take it 2 light

Before you call me racist or what ever .

I tell you ,this is how it is here .

Not saying its burmese to blame!

[jdinasia]

Again you called me "the conspiracy theorist".. What is the conspiracy theory I ascribe to?

Read the original post you replied to again properly cuz you know exactly what I am talking about but you just have to deny, ignore and deflect anything that you cannot argue.

No deflection here. You made the statement but are deflecting answering a direct question as to what conspiracy theory I ascribe to.

[thailandchilli]

For gods sake stick this guy on ignore! Its way beyond the joke now, no flexibility, no debate nothing of value apart from his only fall back "conspiracy theory" or "I want a trial" You get more truth from the RTP and prosecutors than him.

TV is a place to express opinion and debate topics and in this particular case the far more serious issues of a horrific double murder that has international outcry from Human rights groups and other countries and hundreds of thousands if not millions of people. Including the family of the victims.

IGNORE THE TROLL

[transam]

For gods sake stick this guy on ignore! Its way beyond the joke now, no flexibility, no debate nothing of value apart from his only fall back "conspiracy theory" or "I want a trial" You get more truth from the RTP and prosecutors than him.

TV is a place to express opinion and debate topics and in this particular case the far more serious issues of a horrific double murder that has international outcry from Human rights groups and other countries and hundreds of thousands if not millions of people. Including the family of the victims.

IGNORE THE TROLL

Weeeeeeeeeell, that is for Tv to look at and am sure they have. We are all able to post opinions here that don't break rules......A sad bloke it seems, BUT, the future may make a few smiles, I think.. ..Nooooooo, not from Tv but other stuff.......

[KunMatt]

For gods sake stick this guy on ignore! Its way beyond the joke now, no flexibility, no debate nothing of value apart from his only fall back "conspiracy theory" or "I want a trial" You get more truth from the RTP and prosecutors than him.

TV is a place to express opinion and debate topics and in this particular case the far more serious issues of a horrific double murder that has international outcry from Human rights groups and other countries and hundreds of thousands if not millions of people. Including the family of the victims.

IGNORE THE TROLL

Unfortunately the ignore function doesn't work on the Android App.

[kcirtapyelrah]

Not really.

Just wanted to see how far your hypocrisy would go, claiming to know the "truth"

Obviously it is boundless.

Of all people you are the last that should be able to be a judge on where the truth lies, you've been trying to sell the same fairy tale now since the beginning: "Once upon a time there were two drunk child-like small Burmese guys who, for no reason at all, miraculously overcame a fit young 6'3" British guy and a British girl without making a sound for anyone to hear, brutally killing the girl on the spot but for some reason only knocking out the man and dragging his big heavy body into the water to drown instead of brutally killing him on the beach in the same way. And all of the many local thugs and mafia who run the island, and were in no way involved, all lived happily ever after. The end."

Not for me to judge. For some reason I think you may never have been to Koh Tao.

You seem to think that you are a quality detective, and can see what happened by reading some conspiracy theories online. While I think that it falls on the judicial system, not some fantasies concocted on social media.

.

You are a clown and people should laugh at you and then ignored you for it JD.

[kcirtapyelrah]

If they believe the Thai police evidence, it’ll be a kangaroo court with pay as you enter over the door.

[CapFarmer]

Pardon moi - they have been detained since October 2nd officially - couldn't edit the post for some reason - so they're not over the limit on this extension.

I must've gotten confused about the deadline given to the police by prosecutors -> 28th Nov. Oh well - I'll get mi coat

No stick around, this is getting interesting, the very fragile house of cards is tumbling down

my predictions:

1 bail set at 1 million each.embassy and concerned groups rally to put up the cash.

2 Armed gaurds are called to escorts the boys to the border ASAP

3. With a kick in the pants out of nearest border crossing boys are told "think youselfs lucky this time,PO and dissapear and never come Thailand again"

4. News leak that boys have skipped bail but yes we have the good information that they are definately the culprit.

5. Bail money shared around amongst bib and everyone happy

:0)

6. The B2 having skipped bailed now proves their guilt and no need for further investigation...

Edited November 21, 2014 by CapFarmer

[tingtongtourist]

Pardon moi - they have been detained since October 2nd officially - couldn't edit the post for some reason - so they're not over the limit on this extension.

I must've gotten confused about the deadline given to the police by prosecutors -> 28th Nov. Oh well - I'll get mi coat

No stick around, this is getting interesting, the very fragile house of cards is tumbling down

my predictions:

1 bail set at 1 million each.embassy and concerned groups rally to put up the cash.

2 Armed gaurds are called to escorts the boys to the border ASAP

3. With a kick in the pants out of nearest border crossing boys are told "think youselfs lucky this time,PO and dissapear and never come Thailand again"

4. News leak that boys have skipped bail but yes we have the good information that they are definately the culprit.

5. Bail money shared around amongst bib and everyone happy

:0)

6. The B2 having skipped bailed now proves their guilt and no need for further investigation...

Well,i would think not many innocent suspects would hang around to get framed up either?

but yes the point you add does explain why this scenario seems an easy way out.

then of course bib can blame other outside interest groups in "meddling" in thai justice matters

i did never beleive conspiracy theories at first but this case just stinks so much.

seems there is a them and us mental thing with the rich thais.

To much shame and shock for thai to prosecute these who they think are " better breeding"

They will never let these influentials or one of their own suffer indignity of going to jail or worse

[jdinasia]

I think the Thai PM is going to have a 'word' with the Thai consulate in Los Angeles for officially inviting the owner of CSI LA to the party

Or simply arrest him there.

Yeah sure the US government will bow to the horribly skewed demands of a military junta because he runs a facebook page that is not illegal but merely something the junta doesn't like. Unless you can propose how the Thai authorities are going to swing that line then do give us the gist of what they'd be best to say

Oops sorry, thought the event was at the consulate, and thus enjoyed extraterritoriality

So, how would that work? They invite him to the consulate, put a bag on his head and smuggle him out of the country? Hilarious...

OT, but think Julian Assange. 2 years + in the Ecuador embassy.