UK police: Schoolgirls who went to Syria are not terrorists

[tgeezer]

The only comment I can make is that I am sorry that she is still alive. That she is, gives us the opportunity to register our displeasure, I don’t doubt that the establishment will ignore us.


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[dick dasterdly]

3 hours ago, ivor bigun said:

All i can say is that my old home town in the UK had a small Muslim community 40 years ago when we went to live there they dressed like us ,there was a Christian and a Jewish meeting hall where they were,the shops sold pork and spirits,over the years more and more came ,they took over both the Christian and the Jewish halls, then the Mosque was built,now it looks like another country ,the women are covered up ,there is a boys and seperate girls school ,no shop in their areas would dare sell alchohol,advertizing is censored ,they have become a seperate race ,they do not mix and you would not go there at night.even in the day you would stick out like a sore thumb,

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7 minutes ago, Basil B said:

So, name the town or is this just another copy and past from the UKIP comic?

Possibly parts of Luton, or parts of East London?

 

I don't generally support ivor bigun's racist posts, but he's right in this case.

 

Mind you, the yobs in some nearby areas were just as bad ☹️.

[owl sees all]

My first thought when the news broke about her wanting to return was negotiate with a muslim country to get her citizenship/subject status. Then stop her ever returning. But now I've mellowed a bit. I now think the UK should let her back in and send her to Luton to live, until her trial is completed. I take it there will be some sort of trial.

 

My second wife - Fatima - was a muslim. She did her praying and stuff but she wouldn't hurt anyone; except me when she ran off with a German surgeon.

[transam]

1 minute ago, owl sees all said:

My first thought when the news broke about her wanting to return was negotiate with a muslim country to get her citizenship/subject status. Then stop her ever returning. But now I've mellowed a bit. I now think the UK should let her back in and send her to Luton to live, until her trial is completed. I take it there will be some sort of trial.

 

My second wife - Fatima - was a muslim. She did her praying and stuff but she wouldn't hurt anyone; except me when she ran off with a German surgeon.

Who was tea total....????

[SheungWan]

On 3/11/2015 at 9:34 AM, Old Croc said:

Perhaps not terrorists, but I'm sure they're concubines for terrorists.

Which is why they went in the first place.

[Basil B]

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The family of Shamima Begum - the teenager who went to Syria to join the Islamic State group - have called on the UK to bring her back "urgently".

Her family, from east London, said the 19-year-old's unborn baby is "a total innocent" and had the right to grow up in the "peace and security" of the UK.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47260916

Is the urgency because if the kid is not born in the UK it will not have an automatic right to UK citizenship as the mother was not born in the UK?

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[ivor bigun]

Possibly parts of Luton, or parts of East London?

 

I don't generally support ivor bigun's racist posts, but he's right in this case.

 

Mind you, the yobs in some nearby areas were just as bad [emoji3525].

Racist posts? Dont make me laugh,truthful posts,shame that the truth hurts ,immegration in small numbers is a great thing ,but once the balance tips we see the problems,and if you cannot see them in the Uk then,i do fear for a country where heads are buried deep in the sand ,by the way only Luton or East London has large immigrant areas,wow and there was me thinking places like Birmingham ,had immigrants as well

 

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[billd766]

20 hours ago, ivor bigun said:

Well she left,the EU,lets hope she doesn't come back

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22 hours ago, Grouse said:

I bet she's a Brexiter 

 

Wow.

 

What a striking response from one so highly educated and in possession of superior intelligence.

[Orton Rd]

What punishment would they have gotten if they had fled Isis to be the wives of western soldiers, and who then went back to the caliphate? Probably be on the short end of a sharia rope, maybe not such a bad idea. Liberal softness and 'compassion' will see the death of the west.

[soalbundy]

She doesn't regret anything, unlike most of the Western jihard brides, so she is a potential danger, this time as an adult and not as a child. A severed head in a bin didn't phase her she said, she's beyond redemption. Take her child and give it to the grandparents, leave her where she is. When they hang her Dutch jihard warrior maybe the Kurds can find her a new husband.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

 

Possibly parts of Luton, or parts of East London?

 

I don't generally support ivor bigun's racist posts, but he's right in this case.

 

Mind you, the yobs in some nearby areas were just as bad ☹️.

You don’t even know the town he’s referring to but you declare ‘he’s right in this case.’

 

That’s some kind of special logic.

 

Or it could be bias.

[ivor bigun]

You don’t even know the town he’s referring to but you declare ‘he’s right in this case.’

 

That’s some kind of special logic.

 

Or it could be bias.

I do not wish to divulge which town i come from if you dont like that then tough.

 

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[MrMuddle]

They should take their British Passports from them, and leave them in Syria.

[Chomper Higgot]

28 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

I do not wish to divulge which town i come from if you dont like that then tough.

 

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I haven’t the slightest interest in where you come from.

 

My point is, if a member doesn’t know where you come from how can they possibly know if what you have to say about the place is true.

 

Clearly they cannot.

[evadgib]

Hopefully this update from HMG published today is an indication of what the public can expect re the monitoring of such oiks.

No need to fill in the bits I've left out this time Chomper; I know the difference between terror/security suspects and what UK security outlets drylie referred to as ODC's.

 

('Ordinary Decent Criminals').

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[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed.

 

[Christophers200]

A simple question - Would anyone employ a returned jihadist as a childminder? 

[Joinaman]

6 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

 

Possibly parts of Luton, or parts of East London?

 

I don't generally support ivor bigun's racist posts, but he's right in this case.

 

Mind you, the yobs in some nearby areas were just as bad ☹️.

Bradford ??

[Joinaman]

6 hours ago, LoS itaint said:

 

 

 

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this lady is brilliant

says what most of us want to say

[CG1 Blue]

I've listened to the debate on this for the past couple of days. I have some sympathy with the argument that 15 year old girls can be brainwashed by cults such as ISIS. And I suppose there is a remote possibility she could be persuaded to give up her hatred for the West and become a good citizen. This would require a huge effort in terms of monitoring, counselling and general rehabilitation over a number of years. 

 

Ok, so she wasn't an actual ISIS fighter, but I was surprised to hear an Iraqi lawyer explaining how he spent months in Syria and learnt that the Jihadi brides carried out atrocities themselves, beating women with sticks on the streets of Raqqa in Syria, and carrying out FGM on all the local females. He was almost in tears while describing the brutality of the Jihadi brides. 

 

Let's face it - if she comes back to the UK the human rights lawyers will keep her out of prison and she'll be on our streets, possibly even bringing up a kid who will no doubt pick up on her views of western society. 

 

Almost 400 'Brits' who fought for ISIS have already returned to the UK. Only 1 in 10 have been prosecuted. There are hundreds more ISIS fighters with British passports yet to return to our shores. 

 

On balance I think the safety of our citizens takes priority over bringing this woman back to the UK. Bringing this woman back to the UK to live among us only increases the possibility of another Manchester Arena atrocity. 

 

[Prissana Pescud]

11 hours ago, ivor bigun said:

All i can say is that my old home town in the UK had a small Muslim community 40 years ago when we went to live there they dressed like us ,there was a Christian and a Jewish meeting hall where they were,the shops sold pork and spirits,over the years more and more came ,they took over both the Christian and the Jewish halls, then the Mosque was built,now it looks like another country ,the women are covered up ,there is a boys and seperate girls school ,no shop in their areas would dare sell alchohol,advertizing is censored ,they have become a seperate race ,they do not mix and you would not go there at night.even in the day you would stick out like a sore thumb,

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All I can say is that in my old R and R location, the population had a very small western population 49 years ago. The locals dressed like locals of their race.

There were some Christian and muslims but they did not outnumber the local population. There were no bars and no loudmouthed rude and drunk "foreigners"

There was no easy young girls, everyone was a traditional person.

Now, it looks like another country. Everyone wears cheap western casual clothes or sexy outfits that would have had the original population outraged.

Now Pattaya is full of bigoted and racist yobbo's and a traditional local would stick out like a sore thumb.

[brewsterbudgen]

What punishment would they have gotten if they had fled Isis to be the wives of western soldiers, and who then went back to the caliphate? Probably be on the short end of a sharia rope, maybe not such a bad idea. Liberal softness and 'compassion' will see the death of the west.

So we should adopt Sharia?

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[ivor bigun]

All I can say is that in my old R and R location, the population had a very small western population 49 years ago. The locals dressed like locals of their race.
There were some Christian and muslims but they did not outnumber the local population. There were no bars and no loudmouthed rude and drunk "foreigners"
There was no easy young girls, everyone was a traditional person.
Now, it looks like another country. Everyone wears cheap western casual clothes or sexy outfits that would have had the original population outraged.
Now Pattaya is full of bigoted and racist yobbo's and a traditional local would stick out like a sore thumb.

Yes but we integrate,marry Thai women ,have children and dont make them convert to Christianity,and dont insist that they make all meat Christian in the schools ,the list goes on

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[overherebc]

1 hour ago, Prissana Pescud said:

All I can say is that in my old R and R location, the population had a very small western population 49 years ago. The locals dressed like locals of their race.

There were some Christian and muslims but they did not outnumber the local population. There were no bars and no loudmouthed rude and drunk "foreigners"

There was no easy young girls, everyone was a traditional person.

Now, it looks like another country. Everyone wears cheap western casual clothes or sexy outfits that would have had the original population outraged.

Now Pattaya is full of bigoted and racist yobbo's and a traditional local would stick out like a sore thumb.

Serious question.

Where were you on R&R from?

[evadgib]

23 hours ago, Prissana Pescud said:

All I can say is that in my old R and R location, the population had a very small western population 49 years ago. The locals dressed like locals of their race.

There were some Christian and muslims but they did not outnumber the local population. There were no bars and no loudmouthed rude and drunk "foreigners"

There was no easy young girls, everyone was a traditional person.

Now, it looks like another country. Everyone wears cheap western casual clothes or sexy outfits that would have had the original population outraged.

Now Pattaya is full of bigoted and racist yobbo's and a traditional local would stick out like a sore thumb.

That only leaves Choir practice. You must've been glad to get back!????

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[SamuiGeezer]

3 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

On balance I think the safety of our citizens takes priority over bringing this woman back to the UK. Bringing this woman back to the UK to live among us only increases the possibility of another Manchester Arena atrocity. 

I think most people in the UK would agree. Stop this political correctness philosophy. She is a disgusting excuse for a human being.

[baboon]

On 2/14/2019 at 8:02 PM, Prissana Pescud said:

These women are not terrorists. Probably traumatised young women who made a brain dead decision to go fight for ISIS.  Be interesting to see what sort of children they breed up in the next 20 years.  They were not mature enough to make any coherent informed decision a few years ago. Their parents need to accept some responsibility for this. Britain needs to take some blame too. What caused these girls ideals to be poisoned.  Why did they not feel they were accepted by the general population.

The muslim community also needs to accept responsibility for not trying to educate these young women to be part of British society.

That part of my post was easy to write. What happens now is basically up to the young girls and the support they get.

 

Yes, it is 'Letter to Brezhnev', but set in 2019. The principles are the same. Young idealists, setting out to their promised land and maybe discovering they made Bit Of A Mistake, to put it mildly.

 

Should they be allowed back? Reluctantly, yes. But the British security services should debrief them and put them on a watchlist, if they have two pennies to rub together these days. That way, we can claim the moral high ground and have updated human intelligence on the characters who wish us harm and what their plans are.