Arrests made as Israel fires rage for third consecutive day

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Arrests made as Israel fires rage for third consecutive day

 

 

HAIFA: -- Israel’s police chief says arrests have been made in connection with raging forest fires in Haifa and the West Bank.

 

Tens of thousands of residents have been evacuated and more than a hundred people have suffered injuries since the fires began on Tuesday (November 22).

 

Press agencies report four Palestinians were detained for questioning.

 

The police refused to comment on whether or not arsonists had deliberately started the initial blaze which has engulfed Israel’s third largest city.

 

Chief Roni Alsheich said the fires seemed not to have been organised, but if intentional could have been the result of people “taking advantage of the opportunity.”

 

It’s an opinion Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu appeared to share.

 

“According to the weather forecast I’m hearing here, we can say that the conditions of drought and wind have created natural blazes, but there are also some unnatural blazes, so we can’t rule out arson,” he told reporters.

 

Russia, Greece, Turkey, Italy, Croatia and Cyprus are all sending planes to assist with dousing the flames.

 

It’s the worst spate of fires in Israel since 2010 when four days of blazes killed 42 people.

 

 

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[Ulysses G.]

No wonder Israel is forced into violent responces from time to time. What a shame.

Edited November 24, 2016 by Ulysses G.

[Jingthing]

It's heartening to hear about the help offered by Russia, Greece, Turkey, Italy, Croatia and Cyprus.

[simple1]

7 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

No wonder Israel is forced into violent responces from time to time. What a shame.

 

Heard on the news those detained for questioning have already been released. In Australia with annual bush fires, many are deliberately lit by arsonists, without a violent response by police / security.

[Ulysses G.]

How many arsonists in Australia are Islamic extremists?

[daveAustin]

19 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

No wonder Israel is forced into violent responces from time to time. What a shame.

 

I think they kind of bring it on themselves mucker and their reaction always tends to be a tad over the top.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

 

I think they kind of bring it on themselves mucker and their reaction always tends to be a tad over the top.

Cheeky of them to try to continue to exist as a state.  

[Ulysses G.]

3 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

 

I think they kind of bring it on themselves mucker and their reaction always tends to be a tad over the top.

 

The fact that they have not been "pushed into the sea" and have a successful, thriving nation, against all odds, suggests their reaction has been pretty effective.

[Thorgal]

 
Heard on the news those detained for questioning have already been released. In Australia with annual bush fires, many are deliberately lit by arsonists, without a violent response by police / security.

The fires are all over Israel and Palestine...except Gaza and the border regions...

Can be seen on this map :

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1-rIcLImhVHnxhBDze1OveFqxoN0&ll=31.94756878801079%2C34.85378057918933&z=8


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[coma]

Countries like Australia and the US experience huge bush fires almost every year. Houses are destroyed and people die. Some are deliberately lit but in most big fires, it is a case of the 'perfect storm'. And they start and run by themselves. Don't hear the leaders of their countries bleating about it. Israel and Thailand are much the same. The Thais blame the Burmese for everything "bad" that happens and the Israelis blame the Palestinians.  

 

[Ulysses G.]

12 minutes ago, coma said:

The Thais blame the Burmese for everything "bad" that happens and the Israelis blame the Palestinians.  

 

 

I have never heard that the Burmese are shooting rockets into Thailand on a regular basis. 

[Morch]

4 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Heard on the news those detained for questioning have already been released. In Australia with annual bush fires, many are deliberately lit by arsonists, without a violent response by police / security.

 

There were some initial arrests. Some of the suspects were released, some weren't. Further arrests were made. The current spate of fires started out with a couple of naturally occurring fires, mostly due to specific weather conditions. Some of the fires occurring later on, for example in Haifa, are almost certainly cases of arson. A fire doesn't start simultaneously from multiple sources on its own. The fires do not naturally occur specifically in the vicinity of mostly Jewish-populated neighborhoods as well.

 

Arrests of suspects are not a "violent reaction".

Edited November 25, 2016 by Morch

[Shawn0000]

4 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

No wonder Israel is forced into violent responces from time to time. What a shame.

 

Does what happens to peoples homes in Area C "force" Palestinians into violent responses from time to time?

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.  

[Morch]

4 hours ago, Thorgal said:

 

The fires are all over Israel and Palestine...except Gaza and the border regions...

Can be seen on this map :

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1-rIcLImhVHnxhBDze1OveFqxoN0&ll=31.94756878801079%2C34.85378057918933&z=8


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And once again, you post obvious drivels and lies. As evident from your own link.

 

The vast majority of the fires are within Israel, especially the larger ones and the ones obviously being the result of arson.

 

If that's not enough for some, the PA has already offered assistance to Israel, by sending it's own fire fighting units to certain areas (mainly around Jerusalem). The offer was accepted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 25, 2016 by Morch

[Shawn0000]

3 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

I have never heard that the Burmese are shooting rockets into Thailand on a regular basis. 

 

It's only been 4 years!

[simple1]

5 minutes ago, Morch said:

Arrests of suspects are not a "violent reaction".

 

Of course not, I was responding to UG's comment...

 

"No wonder Israel is forced into violent responses from time to time."

[Morch]

For those having trouble making sense of the OP:

 

This is not about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. While those arrested are referred to as Palestinians, it would have been more correct to use Israeli Arabs. This does not preclude the possibility that Palestinians who are not Israeli citizens were involved, though.

 

If anyone needs a specific background for the current arson attacks (and at least with regard to some, this is clearly the case) a more relevant reference would be legislation intent on banning Muslim call for prayer. This was covered on a previous topic.  

 

[simple1]

4 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

How many arsonists in Australia are Islamic extremists?

 

With your suggested acceptance of violence against the arsonists, fair enough if they are presenting with armed resistance, if not the application of violence as an expression of revenge is out of order.

[dexterm]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

For those having trouble making sense of the OP:

 

This is not about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. While those arrested are referred to as Palestinians, it would have been more correct to use Israeli Arabs. This does not preclude the possibility that Palestinians who are not Israeli citizens were involved, though.

 

If anyone needs a specific background for the current arson attacks (and at least with regard to some, this is clearly the case) a more relevant reference would be legislation intent on banning Muslim call for prayer. This was covered on a previous topic.  

 

It could also be tit for tat retaliation against extremists Zionist colonists, such as Price Tag and Lehava,  who burn Palestinian farmland, churches and mosques.

 

[Bentzi Gopstein]"the head of an extreme right-wing Israeli group opposed to Jewish-Arab integration on Tuesday advocated the burning of mosques and churches in Israel at a public forum."

http://www.timesofisrael.com/radical-jewish-groups-head-advocates-burning-churches/

[geriatrickid]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

It's heartening to hear about the help offered by Russia, Greece, Turkey, Italy, Croatia and Cyprus.

 

It was requested by Israel under the  longstanding agreements  on mutual assistance. Turkey sent its waterbombers last catastrophe at the height of their feud.

 

This is  heartbreaking. Israel is the only country in the middle east that has protected  migratory bird habitats and the   scum who have set fire to the  woodlands have done untold damage to the ecosystem of the region. The loss of native plants and wildlife is a vile crime.

 

Its unbelieveable that the israel haters have pushed #israel is burning to one of the top trending  positions on twitter as they cheer on the fires. 

 

Dr. Mohamad Al Arefe, the Saudi imam with 16.1 million followers,  tweeted

“The fire is still burning in the Zionist entity!” Arefe wrote, adding he hoped God would “liberate the Al Aqsa [Mosque] from [Israel’s] filth.

Classy comment form a cleric of the  "religion of peace".

 

What these idiots don't realize is that  Arabs are suffering. Whole Druze  villages are at risk and the exclusively palestinian Arab towns of Kabul and Tamra are taking damage. Thousands of arabs have been forced to flee for their own safety.

 

 

[OMGImInPattaya]

Interesting twist on the Palestinian struggle for self-determination...so if you won't share the "house" with us we'll just burn the darn thing down.

Edited November 25, 2016 by OMGImInPattaya

[Thorgal]

 
And once again, you post obvious drivels and lies. As evident from your own link.
 
The vast majority of the fires are within Israel, especially the larger ones and the ones obviously being the result of arson.
 
If that's not enough for some, the PA has already offered assistance to Israel, by sending it's own fire fighting units to certain areas (mainly around Jerusalem). The offer was accepted.
 

Most of the fires are located in high secured zones where Palestinians are not even allowed to travel.

This should hopefully stop some other drivel and lies...


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[dexterm]

1 hour ago, OMGImInPattaya said:

Interesting twist on the Palestinian struggle for self-determination...so if you won't share the "house" with us we'll just burn the darn thing down.

More like if you steal our house from us, we'll just burn the darn thing down. But I don't think even that is the case.

To counter your hyperbole..

"Israeli security officials warned against jumping to conclusions about the cause of the wave of fires, saying the evidence for a widespread campaign of arson remains ambiguous. "

 

http://www.timesofisrael.com/police-make-arrests-for-arson-inciting-fires/

 

 

 

[jesimps]

8 hours ago, daveAustin said:

 

I think they kind of bring it on themselves mucker and their reaction always tends to be a tad over the top.

Of course. They should say "I say Mr Islamic terrorist, that's a bit naughty you know. We'll pull funny faces at you if you do it again".

Over the top my aris.

 

[Morch]

3 hours ago, dexterm said:

It could also be tit for tat retaliation against extremists Zionist colonists, such as Price Tag and Lehava,  who burn Palestinian farmland, churches and mosques.

 

[Bentzi Gopstein]"the head of an extreme right-wing Israeli group opposed to Jewish-Arab integration on Tuesday advocated the burning of mosques and churches in Israel at a public forum."

http://www.timesofisrael.com/radical-jewish-groups-head-advocates-burning-churches/

 

Now, it couldn't. You quoted a story dating from 2015. The ban on Muslim call for prayer was this month.

Arson attacks directed against Arabs (Christian/Muslim) by Israeli Jews are rare. The opposite isn't, comes back every few years. There's nothing that stands comparison with regard to scale.

[Morch]

2 hours ago, OMGImInPattaya said:

Interesting twist on the Palestinian struggle for self-determination...so if you won't share the "house" with us we'll just burn the darn thing down.

 

This is not about the "Palestinian struggle for self-determination", though. More like Israeli Arab Muslims reacting to recent legislation attempts. 

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Thorgal said:

 

Most of the fires are located in high secured zones where Palestinians are not even allowed to travel.

This should hopefully stop some other drivel and lies...


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The Palestinian fire fighters aid was directed to the areas around Jerusalem and those fires on bordering areas with the security barrier. No one claimed they were given free access everywhere within Israel.

But do go on about drivel and lies, that's pretty much what you contribute to any related topic.

Edited November 25, 2016 by Morch

[Morch]

1 hour ago, dexterm said:

More like if you steal our house from us, we'll just burn the darn thing down. But I don't think even that is the case.

To counter your hyperbole..

"Israeli security officials warned against jumping to conclusions about the cause of the wave of fires, saying the evidence for a widespread campaign of arson remains ambiguous. "

 

http://www.timesofisrael.com/police-make-arrests-for-arson-inciting-fires/

 

 

 

 

What they actually said was that not all the fires were arson attacks, some occurring naturally due to weather conditions. But with regard to some of the fires, they were less cautious. And there were more arrests carried out since.

 

 

[Thorgal]

 

This is not about the "Palestinian struggle for self-determination", though. More like Israeli Arab Muslims reacting to recent legislation attempts. 

Some fires were located within the security barrier of the Israeli/Jewish settlement, read compound. Again, no Palestinians are allowed to be there.

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