A few questions about buying a new BMW in Thailand

[transam]

Just now, grkt said:

We have 2 Benz and will never drive any Japanese shit. You have style and money or you don't ❤️

Keep buying houses for your wives if you prefer !

 

.......I don't want to live in a C class or a condo....

[catman20]

1 minute ago, grkt said:

We have 2 Benz and will never drive any Japanese shit. You have style and money or you don't ❤️

Keep buying houses for your wives if you prefer !

 

best post here, i like, it and straight to the point and very honest, Bob wont like this post either along with many other people living here on a shoe string.

[upu2]

On 5/26/2018 at 4:24 PM, pmarlowe said:

Look at Mercedes Benz instead. Many more models (30) to choose from. Many more deals to be made. 110 years in Thailand.

Every time I see a Mercedes I cant help thinking it is a taxi.

[catman20]

5 minutes ago, upu2 said:

Every time I see a Mercedes I cant help thinking it is a taxi.

what model is your Benz ? hahaha  its the new be again wouldn't expect too much from you.?

Edited June 20, 2018 by catman20

[transam]

2 minutes ago, catman20 said:

best post here, i like, it and straight to the point and very honest, Bob wont like this post either along with many other people living here on a shoe string.

So what's wrong with me...? 

[catman20]

Just now, transam said:

So what's wrong with me...? 

ok your was 2nd best post here along with mine ok ? ?

[AndreaPice]

7 minutes ago, catman20 said:

good point re the gas, got to get in plenty of KM to do that. insurance i think on a high end car is about the same i think

I pay 34k/ year for a first class insurance on Volvo V40 T5.

 

To insure the same car with the same conditions in Italy (where we have notoriously high insurance rates) would be in the range 1.500 - 2.000 EUR per year (60-80k THB) plus more than 600 EUR/year (24K THB) for the road tax

[AndreaPice]

17 minutes ago, grkt said:

We have 2 Benz and will never drive any Japanese shit. You have style and money or you don't ❤️

Keep buying houses for your wives if you prefer !

 

Let them buy overpriced Jap washing machines with 4 wheels and call them "cars" ......

 

Like the Fortuner, 1.6 M for the top spec and at the end it's just an Hilux in a tuxedo.....

[transam]

5 minutes ago, AndreaPice said:

Let them buy overpriced Jap washing machines with 4 wheels and call them "cars" ......

 

Like the Fortuner, 1.6 M for the top spec and at the end it's just an Hilux in a tuxedo.....

Oh well....

[BobBKK]

54 minutes ago, catman20 said:

Bob i was answering the previous post which in turn may of taken me of topic but it was correcting the post re only that BMWs are only 25% more expensive here. 

 

I choose not too that's my right it does not mean I don't have the 50,000.

 

i dont think you have the 50,000  now thats SHOWING OFF ? thats why you sound a bit green Bob, think i hit a nerve. get over it Bob.

okok you got me but I have a grand will that do?   ?

[catman20]

27 minutes ago, AndreaPice said:

I pay 34k/ year for a first class insurance on Volvo V40 T5.

 

To insure the same car with the same conditions in Italy (where we have notoriously high insurance rates) would be in the range 1.500 - 2.000 EUR per year (60-80k THB) plus more than 600 EUR/year (24K THB) for the road tax

i have first class ins also on my BMW it cost about 60 or 65,000 baht = about 1,500 pounds which i think would be the same price in England.

[BobBKK]

27 minutes ago, AndreaPice said:

I pay 34k/ year for a first class insurance on Volvo V40 T5.

 

To insure the same car with the same conditions in Italy (where we have notoriously high insurance rates) would be in the range 1.500 - 2.000 EUR per year (60-80k THB) plus more than 600 EUR/year (24K THB) for the road tax

I must say I do like the Volvo a beautiful set of wheels you have there.

[IsaanFam]

7 hours ago, catman20 said:

sorry to inform you that you are wrong i have a new BMW 430 i M sport convertible here in Thailand cost me 4.3 million = 100,000 sterling the same car costs 53,000 pounds in England. 

 

Sorry to inform you, but I am talking actual prices, not what you have paid. The actual price of 430i Coupe M sport is 3,759,000.

 

https://www.bmw.co.th/content/dam/bmw/marketTH/common/SPEC sheet/update-180405/ZCNH_ZCE3_430i-Coupe-M-Sport.pdf

 

I just took 5 minutes to check the price at BMW Germany for the 430i Coupe with the specs in Thailand. It is about 2,6 mb. Well, a 40% mark up. Still far away from the double or triple myth. (Adding a joke: If the exchange rate would be of that 10 years ago, this 2.6mb would be actually 3.2mb, very close to 3.8mb).

 

Then, you are right about the higher price for a "430i Coupe" and I actually just checked the 3 and 5 series and compared it to BMW.de calculator and there the price difference is 20%.

 

And additional to that: Just ask the Danes or Swedes if they think the price is marked up in comparison to their local market. I mean, we could use the BMW.dk or BMW.se configurator and will find that they are on par with Thai prices.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 20, 2018 by IsaanFam

[IsaanFam]

3 hours ago, AndreaPice said:

 

Correct, if you compare the base models sold in Europe vs the models sold here (ASEAN assembled) the price difference is big but if you will try to build the same car on the European configurator then all the difference will suddenly disappear, all of the European brands (BMW, Merc, Volvo) fill up the locally assembled ones with tons of optionals to close the price gap and bring up the perceived value of the car.

 

You got it. I would never have bought my BMW in Thailand if it was more then 50% mark up. So, I checked exactly the same specs for the BMW offered in Thailand and Germany and found out it's at 25%.

[upu2]

1 hour ago, catman20 said:

what model is your Benz ? hahaha  its the new be again wouldn't expect too much from you.?

Mercedes are used in Europe for taxis. In fact many Germans consider a Mercedes as a Farmers or butchers car

[upu2]

1 hour ago, catman20 said:

what model is your Benz ? hahaha  its the new be again wouldn't expect too much from you.?

I dont like Benz I prefer BMW but that was not the point it was merely a reply to a guy asking about BMW's

[IsaanFam]

1 hour ago, upu2 said:

Every time I see a Mercedes I cant help thinking it is a taxi.

 

C43 = 4.2 mb = 370hp = Well, probably you will only see it from behind anyway.

[upu2]

1 minute ago, IsaanFam said:

 

C43 = 4.2 mb = 370hp = Well, probably you will only see it from behind anyway.

Nice justification I still prefer BMW to Mercedes though

[catman20]

14 minutes ago, upu2 said:

I dont like Benz I prefer BMW but that was not the point it was merely a reply to a guy asking about BMW's

so what model is your BMW ?

[upu2]

1 minute ago, catman20 said:

so what model is your BMW ?

X5

[catman20]

16 minutes ago, upu2 said:

Mercedes are used in Europe for taxis. In fact many Germans consider a Mercedes as a Farmers or butchers car

We are not in Europe and if the Benz ware the same price in Europe as they are here they would not be using Benz for taxis.

[watcharacters]

On 5/24/2018 at 9:49 PM, Santogold said:

Because the money saved on the car purchase can be put to use elsewhere.

 

 

That's certainly a valid and polite answer.

 

[HAKAPALITA]

Just now, catman20 said:

so what model is your BMW ?

I say, thats a Man who is 67 Years Old and walks 140 Kms a week. No need of Car. Just a lift back home.?‍♂️

[catman20]

4 minutes ago, HAKAPALITA said:

I say, thats a Man who is 67 Years Old and walks 140 Kms a week. No need of Car. Just a lift back home.?‍♂️

new shoes ?????

[upu2]

8 minutes ago, catman20 said:

We are not in Europe and if the Benz ware the same price in Europe as they are here they would not be using Benz for taxis.

Agreed but I still look at them and see a taxi. Nice cars and well made but it is just the relationship that always springs to mind

[upu2]

5 minutes ago, HAKAPALITA said:

I say, thats a Man who is 67 Years Old and walks 140 Kms a week. No need of Car. Just a lift back home.?‍♂️

20km a day get your facts right. I have a car for long distances not short ones and I walk back

[upu2]

3 minutes ago, catman20 said:

new shoes ?????

20km is not far. You should try walking you would find it a novelty

[watcharacters]

9 minutes ago, catman20 said:

We are not in Europe and if the Benz ware the same price in Europe as they are here they would not be using Benz for taxis.

 

I wonder how that really works out comparatively.   Mercs are not inexpensive at all in Europe even though they are often used as Taxis especially in Germany.

 

In Thailand the vehicle of choice can be a Toyota (Camry) or even a Fortuner.     

 

How does the math work out taking into account per capita income and such?

[catman20]

13 minutes ago, upu2 said:

X5

got any current pictures for us ?

[HAKAPALITA]

20 minutes ago, upu2 said:

20km a day get your facts right. I have a car for long distances not short ones and I walk back

20x7 a day =140 P.W. QED.!!?‍?. More BS,!