Dentist recommendations in Pattaya? (need implant & crown)

[jimn]

44 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

I am not sure they will do bridge using one implant without crowning another existing tooth, you can ask.

 

Were it me, I would go with two implants. If I was short on dough, I would replace the recently extracted tooth with an implant as soon as possible (I don't think you want the hole to fill in) and get a cheap partial denture until I had the money for the second implant.

 

I would absolutely not get a bridge using the new implant and an existing healthy tooth.  

Thank you for the comments. I only had the tooth extracted 4 weeks ago and its still a bit sore. I will leave it 8 weeks before I decide what to do. Added complication is I have to go back to the UK in July for 3 months so it will have to be done before I go or after. I suppose I could wait and consult my specialist in the UK who is a top dentist and see what he says and then decide what to do. Cant afford UK prices for this though but at least I would have a top opinion on what to do.

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, jimn said:

Thank you for the comments. I only had the tooth extracted 4 weeks ago and its still a bit sore. I will leave it 8 weeks before I decide what to do. Added complication is I have to go back to the UK in July for 3 months so it will have to be done before I go or after. I suppose I could wait and consult my specialist in the UK who is a top dentist and see what he says and then decide what to do. Cant afford UK prices for this though but at least I would have a top opinion on what to do.

 

I just read it's good to wait 3-6 months, so I was wrong about that.

 

I've had crowns, bridges and implants in the US and in Thailand and IMHO the dental services in Thailand are generally better than in the US. In the US, the dentist always seems to have eight assistants and four chairs going.  In Thailand, the dentist is the only person that puts their fingers in my mouth and they wait for ME to come pack from x-ray, I don't have to go wait a half an hour while they get another  chair/bill going. 

 

Much of the cost of an implant is the cost of the fixture/implant. 

 

I thought everything was free in the UK, no?

[Eindhoven]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

 

I agree with most everything you say, except your claim that gold is the cheapest option. Are there more expensive options? Absolutely, but most options are cheaper. Cosmetics aside, I do not believe there is any better material than gold for crowns. 

 

But it isn't gold. It is a material bonded to metal. So the material bonded to metal is going to be weaker than a solid crown. Ask any engineer. A one piece construction is more durable. I know.

Do you really think that the OP has a solid gold crown in his mouth? Don't base your knowledge on hearsay. Just because they wrote "gold" doesn't mean that it is gold. If they had a solid gold crown it might be a different matter, but they don't.

 

[Eindhoven]

1 hour ago, jimn said:

Thank you for the comments. I only had the tooth extracted 4 weeks ago and its still a bit sore. I will leave it 8 weeks before I decide what to do. Added complication is I have to go back to the UK in July for 3 months so it will have to be done before I go or after. I suppose I could wait and consult my specialist in the UK who is a top dentist and see what he says and then decide what to do. Cant afford UK prices for this though but at least I would have a top opinion on what to do.

 

No. Make an appointment see her now. You leave it eight weeks and you won't get a space at all. Do not cogitate or think that you know it better. I also saw top dentists in the U.K. and did my research before making a decision.

You won't regret it. 

[Eindhoven]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

 

I just read it's good to wait 3-6 months, so I was wrong about that.

 

I've had crowns, bridges and implants in the US and in Thailand and IMHO the dental services in Thailand are generally better than in the US. In the US, the dentist always seems to have eight assistants and four chairs going.  In Thailand, the dentist is the only person that puts their fingers in my mouth and they wait for ME to come pack from x-ray, I don't have to go wait a half an hour while they get another  chair/bill going. 

 

Much of the cost of an implant is the cost of the fixture/implant. 

 

I thought everything was free in the UK, no?

 

 

Is any of your post serious? Dental implants for free in the UK? Dentist the only one in your mouth? So no assistant with suction? Really?

The US system is all about milking the system and maximising profit. Charge ridiculously high prices for everything, inflate the cost and get people to buy insurance to pay the terribly inflated costs.

 

The recommended people here do not follow that system. They won't do any work that is not necessary. They have integrity and are conscientious. So jimn can visit in confidence knowing he will get the best treatment without having to worry that his bill will be padded with unnecessary extras.

 

[Eindhoven]

1 hour ago, jimn said:

Thank you for the comments. I only had the tooth extracted 4 weeks ago and its still a bit sore. I will leave it 8 weeks before I decide what to do. Added complication is I have to go back to the UK in July for 3 months so it will have to be done before I go or after. I suppose I could wait and consult my specialist in the UK who is a top dentist and see what he says and then decide what to do. Cant afford UK prices for this though but at least I would have a top opinion on what to do.

 

What happens is the screw and abutment is inserted, then you wait three to six months for the bone to bond to it. Only then is the crown attached to it.

Something is wrong if your extraction is still sore after four weeks. I had a wisdom tooth extraction done recently by the aforementioned surgeon and then next day forgot that I had even had it done.

Painless and clean. I do not recommend anyone lightly. Make an appointment today and they might be able to fit you in this month or the next. Don't wait, especially if you have a complication. Four weeks is absolutely not normal. Sounds like an infection.

 

Edited March 4, 2021 by Eindhoven

[Eindhoven]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

I am not sure they will do bridge using one implant without crowning another existing tooth, you can ask.

 

Were it me, I would go with two implants. If I was short on dough, I would replace the recently extracted tooth with an implant as soon as possible (I don't think you want the hole to fill in) and get a cheap partial denture until I had the money for the second implant.

 

I would absolutely not get a bridge using the new implant and an existing healthy tooth.  

 

I agree and think the OP should make an appointment. The dentist will tell him what is best for his situation. Damaging good teeth is never a good idea. Better to save up for two implants. Likely that is what he will do.

The reasoning? Possibly assumes that he will pay for the whole implant at once; but this is not the case. He will pay for the screw and abutment firstly; so perhaps approximately half. Then months later, whenever he can afford the crowns can pay for them then.

 

But we cannot see him. It may or may not be a cosmetic issue. It may not affect his chewing to only have a single implant instead of two. Trust the dentist in this case. They will not push you to do anything just to make themselves more money. I can give my guarantee on this. 

[petermik]

12 hours ago, Eindhoven said:

 

He already has the top recommendation.

That would be Dr Warin...... https://pattayadentalcare.com...on Pattaya Klang

[Eindhoven]

6 minutes ago, petermik said:

That would be Dr Warin...... https://pattayadentalcare.com...on Pattaya Klang

 

You might think so. They are friends. How much experience with implants do you have with Dr Warin? Actual experience.

I would choose to use hospital facilities over a private clinic....and he really should get his website up and running.

Edited March 4, 2021 by Eindhoven

[petermik]

7 hours ago, Eindhoven said:

 

You might think so. They are friends. How much experience with implants do you have with Dr Warin? Actual experience.

I would choose to use hospital facilities over a private clinic....and he really should get his website up and running.

I had 160,000 bahts worth of ceramic crowns and 2 implants nearly 7 years ago after much work researching for a good dentist here in Pattaya...others for identical work wanted 25% more....been back on two occasions since then (4 years and 3 years)  as crowns had come loose.....my fault I like sticky toffees..both were re-attached without any charge....you have paid once he said and that is enough.

Excellent honest and inexpensive Dentist here in Pattaya...nothing fancy/elaborate in his waiting room and many expats here use him....if you know one better then good luck

[Eindhoven]

2 hours ago, petermik said:

I had 160,000 bahts worth of ceramic crowns and 2 implants nearly 7 years ago after much work researching for a good dentist here in Pattaya...others for identical work wanted 25% more....been back on two occasions since then (4 years and 3 years)  as crowns had come loose.....my fault I like sticky toffees..both were re-attached without any charge....you have paid once he said and that is enough.

Excellent honest and inexpensive Dentist here in Pattaya...nothing fancy/elaborate in his waiting room and many expats here use him....if you know one better then good luck

 

I already told you that I know better. My experiences span more than ten years. I will not embarrass her by posting here how kind and conscientious. Either way, they come both highly recommended.

Absolutely not knocking Dr Warin. Himself and Dr Cherry have had countless recommendations on the forums. But I chose to travel a little further to get what I wanted. 

Fancy and elaborate? A 3D X-Ray device is essential. The hospital has it and more. Believe me, I did my research on all of them before deciding.

[Yellowtail]

4 hours ago, Eindhoven said:

 

But it isn't gold. It is a material bonded to metal. So the material bonded to metal is going to be weaker than a solid crown. Ask any engineer. A one piece construction is more durable. I know.

Do you really think that the OP has a solid gold crown in his mouth? Don't base your knowledge on hearsay. Just because they wrote "gold" doesn't mean that it is gold. If they had a solid gold crown it might be a different matter, but they don't.

 

 

I am an engineer, and I have a couple gold crowns, and no, they are not solid gold, they are an investment casting from a gold alloy. 

[Yellowtail]

4 hours ago, Eindhoven said:

 

 

Is any of your post serious? Dental implants for free in the UK? Dentist the only one in your mouth? So no assistant with suction? Really?

The US system is all about milking the system and maximising profit. Charge ridiculously high prices for everything, inflate the cost and get people to buy insurance to pay the terribly inflated costs.

 

The recommended people here do not follow that system. They won't do any work that is not necessary. They have integrity and are conscientious. So jimn can visit in confidence knowing he will get the best treatment without having to worry that his bill will be padded with unnecessary extras.

 

 

I was joking about the being free in the UK.

 

Why would the assistant with the suction be sticking their fingers in my mouth? There is also an assistant that takes my blood pressure, but they never stick their fingers in my mouth either.

 

I have my first crown done in the US 35 years ago and my first implant 25. I still have the implant with it's original gold crown. If you shop around in the US, you can get an implant for about what you  pay here at a decent clinic.

 

I've been using Bangkok Hospital Dental clinic for 10-15 years and they have been great. 

 

[Eindhoven]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

 

I was joking about the being free in the UK.

 

Why would the assistant with the suction be sticking their fingers in my mouth? There is also an assistant that takes my blood pressure, but they never stick their fingers in my mouth either.

 

I have my first crown done in the US 35 years ago and my first implant 25. I still have the implant with it's original gold crown. If you shop around in the US, you can get an implant for about what you  pay here at a decent clinic.

 

I've been using Bangkok Hospital Dental clinic for 10-15 years and they have been great. 

 

The assistant does the suction, not the dentist. So she is controlling something that is in my mouth. The person who takes my blood pressure is completely different.

As I wrote before, the person who went to BPH and paid 60k does not have a gold crown.

 

What is a decent clinic? 45k is the price at the hospital. Is that the price you can get in the USA?

 

I am not interested in roving Implantologists. I deal only with resident practitioners. For that reason and the fact that they charge much more for nothing, I avoid BPH. YMMV, but I doubt it. I deal with them only with insurance, so I know the way they operate. It's not for me.

 

 

 

[jacko45k]

13 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

I thought everything was free in the UK, no?

Not dental unless under 18, and certainly not for cosmetic treatments. 

[Yellowtail]

8 hours ago, Eindhoven said:

The assistant does the suction, not the dentist. So she is controlling something that is in my mouth. The person who takes my blood pressure is completely different.

As I wrote before, the person who went to BPH and paid 60k does not have a gold crown.

 

What is a decent clinic? 45k is the price at the hospital. Is that the price you can get in the USA?

 

I am not interested in roving Implantologists. I deal only with resident practitioners. For that reason and the fact that they charge much more for nothing, I avoid BPH. YMMV, but I doubt it. I deal with them only with insurance, so I know the way they operate. It's not for me.

 

 

I said the dentist is the only one to put their fingers in my mouth,  you effectively called me a liar, please quit flailing around. Be a man and take it back.

 

I've been using Bangkok Hospital Dental Clinic for at least fifteen  years. My boy has been going to the same dentist there since his first teeth came in. The same dentist does my cleaning every year, and does a great job. Whether the cost is a little way or the other does not really make much difference to m in the scheme of things. 

 

You can get an implant starting at around US$1,500. My sister paid $1,800 about a year ago. That said, you can pay much more as well. You do very much have to shop around. Incidentally, a lot of eye and other elective surgeries are cheaper in the US than they are here.  

 

 

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Not dental unless under 18, and certainly not for cosmetic treatments. 

 

Do they have cosmetic treatments in the UK? (just kidding)

[Grusa]

On 11/7/2018 at 1:06 AM, bkk6060 said:

Pattaya Dental Clinic. Dr. Akawit.

Good English and 40 years experience.

The best in town. 

Seconded. Did a first class job in replacing a broken crowned tooth, with root canal treatment, post and new crown. He was desperate to do an implant instead, but I declined! The result is better than the original, no pain, and cost less than the estimate. Not much in the way of bedside manner, though!

[Eindhoven]

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

 

 

I said the dentist is the only one to put their fingers in my mouth,  you effectively called me a liar, please quit flailing around. Be a man and take it back.

 

I've been using Bangkok Hospital Dental Clinic for at least fifteen  years. My boy has been going to the same dentist there since his first teeth came in. The same dentist does my cleaning every year, and does a great job. Whether the cost is a little way or the other does not really make much difference to m in the scheme of things. 

 

You can get an implant starting at around US$1,500. My sister paid $1,800 about a year ago. That said, you can pay much more as well. You do very much have to shop around. Incidentally, a lot of eye and other elective surgeries are cheaper in the US than they are here.  

 

 

 

 

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I said the dentist is the only one to put their fingers in my mouth,  you effectively called me a liar, please quit flailing around. Be a man and take it back.

 

I wasn't sure if you were being pedantic or just joking. Your posts are peppered with 'jokes'. No way to tell unless you tell us.

Everyone is free to decide where they want to go. I made my decision based on extensive research.

 

 

[Yellowtail]

8 minutes ago, Eindhoven said:

 

 

 

I wasn't sure if you were being pedantic or just joking. Your posts are peppered with 'jokes'. No way to tell unless you tell us.

Everyone is free to decide where they want to go. I made my decision based on extensive research.

 

 

 

Weak

[jaywalker2]

On 3/4/2021 at 12:35 PM, Kerryd said:

Indeed. A friend of mine inquired about implants and after a quick examination, the doctor noted he would need bone graphs in his jaw to strengthen it. Otherwise the jaw would likely break when the implant was ratcheted in.
So they'd have to harvest bone (from the hip I believe), cut open the jaw (in a couple places), attached the bone, sew it up and leave it for a couple months. (Basically the body would treat it like a break and heal it, stronger than before.)

Needless to say, it isn't an easy procedure. I was lucky, I didn't need bone graphs when I had mine done around 12 years ago. Still wasn't easy. 

However, once it's done and you've recovered, it's great. I was lucky (again) that I didn't have any issues with pain afterwards (never took any of the pain pills they gave me). Almost wish I'd done the top as well.

Thinking back now, I think I paid around 90,000 in total for the 2 implants, from start to finish including x-rays, novocaine and all the other charges. I remember kicking myself in the butt as I paid for it all myself and then months later found out I could have claimed it against the company medical plan.

(And of course, had I known I could have done that, I may well have had a couple more implants done as well. Gone full Terminator with the teeth.) 
 

We have a dentist on this forum who refuted the need for bone grafts most of the time. He claimed they don't integrated properly.   I went to a dentist who also wanted to do a major bone graft. It would have cost 50,000. I went to another dentist who assured me a bone graft wasn't needed.  I went with him and the implant has been fine so far (over 2 years) but it was a difficult decision.

[jaywalker2]

On 3/4/2021 at 4:17 PM, jimn said:

Thank you for the comments. I only had the tooth extracted 4 weeks ago and its still a bit sore. I will leave it 8 weeks before I decide what to do. Added complication is I have to go back to the UK in July for 3 months so it will have to be done before I go or after. I suppose I could wait and consult my specialist in the UK who is a top dentist and see what he says and then decide what to do. Cant afford UK prices for this though but at least I would have a top opinion on what to do.

If it's still sore, it's probably infected. The dentist should have given you antibiotics -- amoxicillin is most commonly used.

[JimTripper]

On 3/5/2021 at 9:06 AM, Grusa said:

Seconded. Did a first class job in replacing a broken crowned tooth, with root canal treatment, post and new crown. He was desperate to do an implant instead, but I declined! The result is better than the original, no pain, and cost less than the estimate. Not much in the way of bedside manner, though!

They wanted to do an un-needed implant and they are the best in town.

 

Yeah, right ????

[NextG]

This thread was two years inactive, before another dodgy newbie ‘bumped’ it an hour ago…

[JimTripper]

On 3/4/2021 at 5:29 PM, Eindhoven said:

 

But it isn't gold. It is a material bonded to metal. So the material bonded to metal is going to be weaker than a solid crown. Ask any engineer. A one piece construction is more durable. I know.

Do you really think that the OP has a solid gold crown in his mouth? Don't base your knowledge on hearsay. Just because they wrote "gold" doesn't mean that it is gold. If they had a solid gold crown it might be a different matter, but they don't.

 

🤔 Huh, thought a porcelain fused to noble metal crown had a gold base, so a noble metal crown would be all gold.

 

Are you saying it's a three layer, base metal, then gold, then porcelain?

Edited October 20, 2023 by JimTripper

[Somjot]

www.travel-dental.com

 

The only Farang dentist, who ever passed the Thai Dental Board Exam and therefore has a "License to Drill" and 30 years plus plus job experience as a dentist and implant surgeon.

[Bobthegimp]

On 10/14/2023 at 11:26 PM, NextG said:

This thread was two years inactive, before another dodgy newbie ‘bumped’ it an hour ago…

It's a double edged sword because newbies are told to "use the search function" by the guys who have been here since they had hair on their head, or they're criticized for dredging up old threads. 

 

What is dodgy about new members?  Are they bot accounts?  Maybe they're hired guns from an Indian troll farm to make the forum to appear more active.

 

One would think that new ideas and perspectives would be welcome on a dying forum. 

[Yellowtail]

On 10/20/2023 at 10:23 AM, JimTripper said:

🤔 Huh, thought a porcelain fused to noble metal crown had a gold base, so a noble metal crown would be all gold.

 

Are you saying it's a three layer, base metal, then gold, then porcelain?

A gold crown is a gold crown, but it's not pure gold. 

 

I think they make a wax crown, coat it with ceramic, burn the wax out and cast the crown with molten gold. 

[NextG]

On 10/14/2023 at 9:13 PM, TylerJacobs said:

 

I totally get the importance of finding a reliable dentist, especially for procedures like implants and crowns.

 

Is this a ‘new idea/perspective worthy of bumping a two year old thread?

[gargamon]

On 3/4/2021 at 3:29 AM, Eindhoven said:

Just because they wrote "gold" doesn't mean that it is gold. If they had a solid gold crown it might be a different matter, but they don't.

I have a number of solid gold crowns, done in San Diego in the 90's. For sure solid gold as one had to be removed as the tooth broke, and I took it to a gold shop and sold it. 18 carat if I remember correctly. You do need to be careful these days as they are now using alloys with very low gold content and calling it gold.