Forum very slow and pages not loading

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, balo said:

I had to login today so maybe they restarted the server or something. 

Anyway the pages are sometimes loading normal this morning , but then very slow , like 30 seconds to open . So it's very random . 

 

And the odd timeout, cloudfare message.

[Mavideol]

1 minute ago, dick dasterdly said:

And the odd timeout, cloudfare message.

it's a nightmare to download the forum..... bypassed using a VPN, so far it's working

[madmen]

And the odd timeout, cloudfare message.

It's weird. 5 pages load quick followed by a spinning circle for 3 mins after that followed by no chance of a connection

[billd766]

A good friend suggested this.

 

Avoid 2 minutes past the hour and half hour and see what happens.

 

Don't do anything 02-04 and 32-34 past the hour ! ridiculous state of affairs but let me know how you get on ?

 

I have tried this on the half hour and it affects me from about 31 to 35 minutes past the hour but I keep forgetting about the time after the hour.

 

Also the little widget that takes me back to the top of the page has disappeared once again.

Edited December 3, 2018 by billd766
added extra text

[vogie]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse.

 

Now when someone responds to post, we don't know who they are replying to as the name does not appear in the top of the box.

[doctormann]

Yes, the 'scroll to top' widget has gone away again.

I can't clear notifications either as that option has also disappeared!

The site is getting increasingly unusable now!

[Spidey]

 

Yes, the 'scroll to top' widget has gone away again.

I can't clear notifications either as that option has also disappeared!

The site is getting increasingly unusable now!

It's gone on holiday, don't worry, it'll be back soon (as a Thai girl once said about my hair).

[from the home of CC]

Yea I was 26 when I started writing this. What was I going to say?

[champers]

 

we likely have a website fatter than most of us.

Speak for yourself.

[White Christmas13]

 

A good friend suggested this.

 

Avoid 2 minutes past the hour and half hour and see what happens.

 

Don't do anything 02-04 and 32-34 past the hour ! ridiculous state of affairs but let me know how you get on ?

 

I have tried this on the half hour and it affects me from about 31 to 35 minutes past the hour but I keep forgetting about the time after the hour.

 

Also the little widget that takes me back to the top of the page has disappeared once again.

Yes I lost that too 

[JimmyJ]

Making a post and selecting "Quote" from a previous post - the name of the poster being quoted is no longer listed.

[CharlieH]

Update:

 

Some of the add-ons of the forum have been disabled in order to get to the root of the current issues. The problem is being worked on by both our technical staff and "Invisions" (the software creators).

 

Its a "work in progress" and they continue to work toward a solution.

 

We appreciate your patience whilst this is being sorted.

[wgdanson]

Why not delete all threads for posts over lets say five years, although 2 years would be better. Would that not speed the site up?

[Ks45672]

 

So slow and sporadic I give up. Since Nation took over TV has become less user friendly and full of ads. Looking for a better site for Thailand visa info and news.

Same, it's borderline unusable sometimes 

Why can't they pay for faster servers? 

 

[Spidey]

 

Why not delete all threads for posts over lets say five years, although 2 years would be better. Would that not speed the site up?

It would probably be more effective to delete the ads for old topics that appear at the RHS and bottom of the page. I've no idea what their purpose is.

 

Personally I think that the problem revolves around the number of Mb's per page, making them slow and glitchy. Real solution is more server capacity, but that costs money. Hmmmm…..

[Con Queso]

I ran the URL for one of the discussions through an analysis engine to see what kind of problems (too many ads, excessive javascript, etc) might come up at the page level.  I couldn't even get past the front-end web server:

 

 

 

 

Edited December 3, 2018 by Con Queso

[KittenKong]

It seems as though someone has been fiddling with the JS, presumably in an attempt to make the site load faster. This has resulted in the quoting function and post details function breaking.

 

Edit: I see the above was mentioned on the previous page which I was unable to read due to the site being too slow.

Edited December 4, 2018 by KittenKong

[bert bloggs]

Ime off ,its just to slow at the moment ,good by .

[fruitman]

 

I ran the URL for one of the discussions through an analysis engine to see what kind of problems (too many ads, excessive javascript, etc) might come up at the page level.  I couldn't even get past the front-end web server:

 

 

 

 

The server is working fast enough because sometimes the site works perfect.

 

 

[Con Queso]

 

The server is working fast enough because sometimes the site works perfect.

 

 

Sometimes?  I ran the same URL again just now and this time it went through.  Result is not pretty:

 

 

Listed as issues needing attention:

 

Data amount:

• Some resources are too heavy. This page contains a file with a size greater than 1MB.
• Cookies: 13 domains sent a total of 20KB of cookies.
• 14 images are resized on browser side.  Images must not be delivered larger than they are actually displayed to avoid loading unnecessary data. 
• The GIF is not the best format for 2 of your images. Choosing a suitable format can dramatically reduce the weight of an image.
• Reduce the page weight (5.3MB).  The page weight is too high, slowing down its display, especially on low speed connections. This can lead to frustration for users paying for data.  Worst offenders on this page:
   

Images : 64.88% of total weight

JavaScript : 26.09% of total weight

Texts : 3.53% of total weight

CSS : 2.05% of total weight

Font : 1.04% of total weight

 

Number of requests:

• 3 resources are unreachable. You should avoid requesting unreachable resources.
• This page loads data from 91 domains. This best practice retrieves the following metrics for each of these domains:

Loading Time (Cumulative): total time spent to load all the resources

Server Time (Cumulative): total time spent to retrieve the responses from the server (TCP connection + wait for first byte)

Weight: data amount loaded

Number of requests

 

 

Quality:

• 3 CSS properties are overridden by shorthand. CSS has some pitfalls that can cause side effects on your styles.
• The !important declaration is used 230 times. If you abuse this declaration, you should consider a review of your CSS code. We tolerate 10 instances of the !important declaration before penalizing the page score.
• 4 IDs are duplicated within your HTML. Using the same ID on several elements can have side effects, especially during JavaScript executions or when applying CSS rules.
• 22 CSS properties are unnecessarily overridden. Generally, it is unnecessary to define 2 times the same property within the same rule: the second one overrides the first.
• 53% of the colors are used only once. The analysed page uses 332 different color codes within your own CSS files, and 176 of them are used only once (some might be very close to others, eg #FF0000 and #FE0000).
• 43 selectors are superfluous. It's often inefficient to bring too much preciseness in CSS selectors.
• 16 resources do not define their content type. Each resource should define its content type in order to facilitate their interpretation by web browsers.
• Avoid nested tables.The table tag should only be used to render ordered data.
• This page contains 459 links, distributed as:

292 internal links (63%)

146 "follow" external links (32%)

21 "nofollow" external links (5%)

 

Browser rendering:

• 7 critical dependencies detected. The failure of a third-party content provider could bring an overall breakdown of your website.
• Defer parsing of JavaScript. JavaScript can significantly slow down a page display, especially if it is necessary to download an external script.
• You should reduce the number of DOM elements. The number of DOM elements influences the complexity of the webpage and DOM access in JavaScript.
• Reduce resources response time.  The server response time has to be as fast as possible.
• You can save 6 scripts executions for one script.

 

SEO:

• Add alt attribute on <img> tags. Moreover, the alt attribute is also an important criterion for SEO. Indeed, search engines crawlers cannot parse graphic contents.

 

Security:

• This page is exposed to "clickjacking" type attacks. Keep malicious people from integrating your pages into their websites.occurrences of the !important declaration before penalizing your score.
• 3 resources may be delivered with wrong content. This page loads data from third parties, you should ensure their integrity.
• Security: Disable the auto detection of resource type. Protect yourself from malicious exploitation via MIME sniffing.

 

[JimmyJ]

 

 

Sometimes?  I ran the same URL again just now and this time it went through.  Result is not pretty:

 

 

Listed as issues needing attention:

 

Data amount:

• Some resources are too heavy. This page contains a file with a size greater than 1MB.
• Cookies: 13 domains sent a total of 20KB of cookies.
• 14 images are resized on browser side.  Images must not be delivered larger than they are actually displayed to avoid loading unnecessary data. 
• The GIF is not the best format for 2 of your images. Choosing a suitable format can dramatically reduce the weight of an image.
• Reduce the page weight (5.3MB).  The page weight is too high, slowing down its display, especially on low speed connections. This can lead to frustration for users paying for data.  Worst offenders on this page:
   

Images : 64.88% of total weight

JavaScript : 26.09% of total weight

Texts : 3.53% of total weight

CSS : 2.05% of total weight

Font : 1.04% of total weight

 

Number of requests:

• 3 resources are unreachable. You should avoid requesting unreachable resources.
• This page loads data from 91 domains. This best practice retrieves the following metrics for each of these domains:

Loading Time (Cumulative): total time spent to load all the resources

Server Time (Cumulative): total time spent to retrieve the responses from the server (TCP connection + wait for first byte)

Weight: data amount loaded

Number of requests

 

 

Quality:

• 3 CSS properties are overridden by shorthand. CSS has some pitfalls that can cause side effects on your styles.
• The !important declaration is used 230 times. If you abuse this declaration, you should consider a review of your CSS code. We tolerate 10 instances of the !important declaration before penalizing the page score.
• 4 IDs are duplicated within your HTML. Using the same ID on several elements can have side effects, especially during JavaScript executions or when applying CSS rules.
• 22 CSS properties are unnecessarily overridden. Generally, it is unnecessary to define 2 times the same property within the same rule: the second one overrides the first.
• 53% of the colors are used only once. The analysed page uses 332 different color codes within your own CSS files, and 176 of them are used only once (some might be very close to others, eg #FF0000 and #FE0000).
• 43 selectors are superfluous. It's often inefficient to bring too much preciseness in CSS selectors.
• 16 resources do not define their content type. Each resource should define its content type in order to facilitate their interpretation by web browsers.
• Avoid nested tables.The table tag should only be used to render ordered data.
• This page contains 459 links, distributed as:

292 internal links (63%)

146 "follow" external links (32%)

21 "nofollow" external links (5%)

 

Browser rendering:

• 7 critical dependencies detected. The failure of a third-party content provider could bring an overall breakdown of your website.
• Defer parsing of JavaScript. JavaScript can significantly slow down a page display, especially if it is necessary to download an external script.
• You should reduce the number of DOM elements. The number of DOM elements influences the complexity of the webpage and DOM access in JavaScript.
• Reduce resources response time.  The server response time has to be as fast as possible.
• You can save 6 scripts executions for one script.

 

SEO:

• Add alt attribute on <img> tags. Moreover, the alt attribute is also an important criterion for SEO. Indeed, search engines crawlers cannot parse graphic contents.

 

Security:

• This page is exposed to "clickjacking" type attacks. Keep malicious people from integrating your pages into their websites.occurrences of the !important declaration before penalizing your score.
• 3 resources may be delivered with wrong content. This page loads data from third parties, you should ensure their integrity.
• Security: Disable the auto detection of resource type. Protect yourself from malicious exploitation via MIME sniffing.

 

 

Interesting website.

 

What is the url?

[janclaes47]

17 hours ago, billd766 said:

Avoid 2 minutes past the hour and half hour and see what happens.

 

Don't do anything 02-04 and 32-34 past the hour ! ridiculous state of affairs but let me know how you get on ?

I checked this and you are 100% correct.

 

Shame that someone with a title as tech doctor can't figure out what exactly happens at those particular time each hour of the day.

 

Maybe he's not really a doctor.

[xylophone]

55 minutes ago, Con Queso said:

 

Sometimes?  I ran the same URL again just now and this time it went through.  Result is not pretty:

 

 

Listed as issues needing attention:

 

Data amount:

• Some resources are too heavy. This page contains a file with a size greater than 1MB.
• Cookies: 13 domains sent a total of 20KB of cookies.
• 14 images are resized on browser side.  Images must not be delivered larger than they are actually displayed to avoid loading unnecessary data. 
• The GIF is not the best format for 2 of your images. Choosing a suitable format can dramatically reduce the weight of an image.
• Reduce the page weight (5.3MB).  The page weight is too high, slowing down its display, especially on low speed connections. This can lead to frustration for users paying for data.  Worst offenders on this page:
   

Images : 64.88% of total weight

JavaScript : 26.09% of total weight

Texts : 3.53% of total weight

CSS : 2.05% of total weight

Font : 1.04% of total weight

 

Number of requests:

• 3 resources are unreachable. You should avoid requesting unreachable resources.
• This page loads data from 91 domains. This best practice retrieves the following metrics for each of these domains:

Loading Time (Cumulative): total time spent to load all the resources

Server Time (Cumulative): total time spent to retrieve the responses from the server (TCP connection + wait for first byte)

Weight: data amount loaded

Number of requests

 

 

Quality:

• 3 CSS properties are overridden by shorthand. CSS has some pitfalls that can cause side effects on your styles.
• The !important declaration is used 230 times. If you abuse this declaration, you should consider a review of your CSS code. We tolerate 10 instances of the !important declaration before penalizing the page score.
• 4 IDs are duplicated within your HTML. Using the same ID on several elements can have side effects, especially during JavaScript executions or when applying CSS rules.
• 22 CSS properties are unnecessarily overridden. Generally, it is unnecessary to define 2 times the same property within the same rule: the second one overrides the first.
• 53% of the colors are used only once. The analysed page uses 332 different color codes within your own CSS files, and 176 of them are used only once (some might be very close to others, eg #FF0000 and #FE0000).
• 43 selectors are superfluous. It's often inefficient to bring too much preciseness in CSS selectors.
• 16 resources do not define their content type. Each resource should define its content type in order to facilitate their interpretation by web browsers.
• Avoid nested tables.The table tag should only be used to render ordered data.
• This page contains 459 links, distributed as:

292 internal links (63%)

146 "follow" external links (32%)

21 "nofollow" external links (5%)

 

Browser rendering:

• 7 critical dependencies detected. The failure of a third-party content provider could bring an overall breakdown of your website.
• Defer parsing of JavaScript. JavaScript can significantly slow down a page display, especially if it is necessary to download an external script.
• You should reduce the number of DOM elements. The number of DOM elements influences the complexity of the webpage and DOM access in JavaScript.
• Reduce resources response time.  The server response time has to be as fast as possible.
• You can save 6 scripts executions for one script.

 

SEO:

• Add alt attribute on <img> tags. Moreover, the alt attribute is also an important criterion for SEO. Indeed, search engines crawlers cannot parse graphic contents.

 

Security:

• This page is exposed to "clickjacking" type attacks. Keep malicious people from integrating your pages into their websites.occurrences of the !important declaration before penalizing your score.
• 3 resources may be delivered with wrong content. This page loads data from third parties, you should ensure their integrity.
• Security: Disable the auto detection of resource type. Protect yourself from malicious exploitation via MIME sniffing.

 

For the non-tech (IT) minded amongst us Con Queso, does this mean that much more work is needed on the website to bring it round to a more "user friendly" state??

[poohy]

33 minutes ago, xylophone said:

For the non-tech (IT) minded amongst us Con Queso, does this mean that much more work is needed on the website to bring it round to a more "user friendly" state??

Reminds me of my junior schoolteachers comments in red

"See me Must try harder"

 

Re above it does give you the impression all is far from well with this site 

[xylophone]

2 minutes ago, poohy said:

Reminds me of my junior schoolteachers comments in red

"See me Must try harder"

 

Re above it does give you the impression all is far from well with this site 

Well as I have nothing to compare it with, it may well be that this is fairly common with many other websites?? Maybe other websites have similar problems but operate more efficiently........??

 

And as for your smart comment; how does a non IT person understand such as the following:- You should reduce the number of DOM elements. The number of DOM elements influences the complexity of the webpage and DOM access in JavaScript. 

 

AND 22 CSS properties are unnecessarily overridden. Generally, it is unnecessary to define 2 times the same property within the same rule: the second one overrides the first.

 

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, poohy said:

Reminds me of my junior schoolteachers comments in red

"See me Must try harder"

 

Re above it does give you the impression all is far from well with this site 

It's time the owners paid for GOOD IT staff to either sort out the problems, or replace the entire system currently being used.

 

Edit - At the moment, the website is only getting worse....

Edited December 4, 2018 by dick dasterdly

[billd766]

22 hours ago, billd766 said:

A good friend suggested this.

 

Avoid 2 minutes past the hour and half hour and see what happens.

 

Don't do anything 02-04 and 32-34 past the hour ! ridiculous state of affairs but let me know how you get on ?

 

I have tried this on the half hour and it affects me from about 31 to 35 minutes past the hour but I keep forgetting about the time after the hour.

 

Also the little widget that takes me back to the top of the page has disappeared once again.

The widget has come back but the underlying problem still remains.

 

Of course we punters are left in the dark about the status of the site even after a week.

[doctormann]

The Clear Notifications option is also back but doesn't work - just gives a 'page not found' error and the notifications are not cleared!

[KhunBENQ]

But currently: lightning fast!

Would be happy if it stays like this.

 

EDIT:

short lived euphoria.

Edited December 4, 2018 by KhunBENQ

[morrobay]

On 12/4/2018 at 12:08 PM, xylophone said:

Well as I have nothing to compare it with, it may well be that this is fairly common with many other websites?? Maybe other websites have similar problems but operate more efficiently........??

 

And as for your smart comment; how does a non IT person understand such as the following:- You should reduce the number of DOM elements. The number of DOM elements influences the complexity of the webpage and DOM access in JavaScript. 

 

AND 22 CSS properties are unnecessarily overridden. Generally, it is unnecessary to define 2 times the same property within the same rule: the second one overrides the first.

 

I have  several sites to compare it with as most do and the problem is here. 

A non IT person does not have to understand Con Queso but the so called techs at thaivisa should. Actually its high time to fire then and do some headhunting at the other forums that do not have intermittent problems and counting.