My Thai wife's US travel visa declined

[Wake Up]

If you are legally married and file the papers at the Amphoe then your wife gets an automatic spouse visa unless fraud can be proved against you. If you have a “village wedding” only then she will probably never get a tourist or finance visa for the next 5 years. If you file the legal paperwork at the Amphoe then be aware she may be able to divorce you in the States if you live there a certain amount of time. 

[lopburi3]

7 minutes ago, Bangkok or bust said:

We will just attempt The immigrant application on the US Embassy website. I remember when I was helping my wife fill out the application there were two options non-immigrant visa or immigrant visa. Thanks.

The Embassy has nothing to do with visa until your cleared to apply for an immigrant visa by USCIS.  That is where you start.  Only after getting their approval can an immigrant visa be applied for.

[Bangkok or bust]

5 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

The Embassy has nothing to do with visa until your cleared to apply for an immigrant visa by USCIS.  That is where you start.  Only after getting their approval can an immigrant visa be applied for.

Maybe it did direct us to another site to fill out the DS-160 nonimmigrant application. Anyway, it had the option in that site to apply for immigrant or nonimmigrant visas.

Edited August 15, 2019 by Bangkok or bust

[gk10002000]

5 hours ago, helloagain said:

The other side to a story like this........ Around 13 years ago i applied to usa embassy for a 6 month visa for my wife going to disney with me i have a uk passport, no problem. So 10 years ago i wanted to show her las vegas, grand canyon, yoesimite etc so applied for a 2 or 3 year visa i forget but on return of passport she got 10 year visa. This visa expires in 1 weeks time so we enjoyed our last trip to the sierra mountain range and around in may and saw lots of snow and new places we not see before. Thank you America. 

So a UK person has an easier time bringing his Thai wife to the USA than a USA person has bringing his Thai wife to the USA.  I can understand the difference as the UK person and his wife are less likely to be trying to stay in the USA, but still, seems a bit harsh and unfair on the USA and Thai wife couple

[lopburi3]

5 minutes ago, Bangkok or bust said:

Maybe it did direct us to another site to fill out the DS-160 nonimmigrant application. Anyway, it had the option in that site to apply for immigrant or nonimmigrant visas.

But you can not get an immigrant visa until cleared by USCIS.  The below website is your first step and filling out 130 form (if you can show you live in Thailand - if not they will advise you to use a US office).

https://www.uscis.gov/about-us/find-uscis-office/international-offices/thailand-uscis-bangkok-field-office

[Ctkong]

3 hours ago, ChipButty said:

About time all these countries started knocking back Thai visa applications and give them only what we Farangs get here, Grief!

I think those Thais looking forward to visit overseas are not the xenophobic ones. These xenophobic ones are the ones staying put in their country making other people’s life difficult. There are Thais and there are Thais , just like any other nationality. We tend to group all of them under one umbrella which is a short sighted perspective. 

[owenm]

When I applied for my GF to get a visitor's tourist visa for Australia, a few friends who had applied previously and had them declined, said it was so difficult to get a Thai, a visa for Oz.. One applied 3 times without success, and is currently trying through an agent.. I'm sure the US visa is as stringent in obtaining.. 

 

With my GF application, it was approved in 5 days, as apposed to their norms of 2-4 weeks.. Why?? 

Copies from my passport of all my visits and visa stamps since our relationship started 3 yrs prior.. Luckily we had both had some local Asian travel to Vietnam, Cambodia and Malaysia, and our passport stamps matched. 

 

But more so my cover letter covering the length of our relationship, print out copies of FB posts showing photos of us together, dated, as well as photos of her parents, family, friends etc. The letter also mentioned that she has accommodation supplied with family and that I would be financially supporting her expenses and shopping, and ensure she had full health insurance for her trip.. I also supplied some financials about myself, and that I wanted her to meet my family and friends.. 

 

I went well beyond their MINIMUM requirements for obtaining a visa.. The application was about myself as well as my GF, and I gave more and more info to support the application.. 

 

Also copies of her housebook, the fact that I'd been supporting her financially for almost 3 years, and reasons for her to return.. Family connections, assets, children etc. 

 

The visa was approved the following week, not for a single entry visitor's visa, but a 12 mth multi entry visa with 3 mth stays.. 

 

Treat your application as an assignment.. The more effort you put it greatly increases your chances for success.. If you put minimal effort, strong chance of denial.. 

Edited August 15, 2019 by owenm

[Handsome Gardener]

9 hours ago, Bangkok or bust said:

My wife has an 8 year career,2 houses and a lot of money in the bank. The officer only looked at her passport and saw no travel stamps and that her job was new. He didn't ask to see any other documents that would have easily proven her ties. At his discretion that was all he needed to know. 

Given most americans don't even have a passport and couldn't point out Europe on a map he's got some nerve !!! You can't travel because you've never travelled ? absolute <deleted>

 

Is there no appeals process ? 

 

I hope it works out for you, there's too much of this crap going on - and once you're in, a formal complaint about this idiot.

 

PS She wasn't dressed as a Mexican was she ?

[newnative]

44 minutes ago, Ajvat37 said:

I get it but the immigration officials have 0 critical thinking skills to deduce that I have lived here for over 3 years and if we wanted to move to America permanently we would have married when she got pregnant and went through the process for a k1.  I have assets in Thailand, income in America, and had all the necessary paperwork to prove these things but they don’t care, in the last year and a half things have changed drastically for the worse in being able to get a visa to America, wether marriage or tourist.  They aren’t looking for proof, they are looking for an excuse to deny.

      Agree.  I think things have tighten up tremendously under Trump.  Before we applied for a tourist visa this year, my Thai spouse and I went thru the green card application process in 2017--which is a lot of tedious work--and he got through the first hurdle of being approved by Homeland Security with no objections.  But, he was rejected at the Embassy interview--which was very short.  Like the tourist visa interview this year, none of our extensive documents was looked at.  

     We appealed, and sent all our documentation to the appeal center in the US.  I think the appeal fee was $995.  After nearly a year's wait, they sent us a letter asking if the American spouse is intending to move to Thailand to be with his Thai spouse.  In our documentation, support letters, etc., there were at least a dozen references to me (the American spouse) moving to Thailand in 2010.  Obviously, nothing we submitted was even read.  Appeal denied--we had not proved our hardship was worse than anybody else's hardship.  Huh?   Total waste of time and money. 

[westsail]

My wife had no trouble getting a U.S. tourist visa several years ago.  She didn't have any money, property, or a job.  I don't remember all of the docs she took, but we thoroughly documented our marriage and relationship including pics, and copies of my retirement visa and our lease showing my intention to return to Thailand.  One thing my wife said the interviewing office took particular interest in was an email letter from my brother (that I requested) welcoming her to the family and saying how much  everyone was looking forward to meeting her.

Best of luck to you.

 

[Isaanbiker]

9 hours ago, Bangkok or bust said:

My wife has an 8 year career,2 houses and a lot of money in the bank. The officer only looked at her passport and saw no travel stamps and that her job was new. He didn't ask to see any other documents that would have easily proven her ties. At his discretion that was all he needed to know. 

OP, there must have been something your wife didn't tell you. Having enough cash and houses is proof enough that she'll come back. 

 

I'm not saying that your wife is dishonest, but something doesn't add 

up here. 

 

Don't you think that they get some information about a particular person before they start to interview them?

 

Best of luck when you try it again.

[thailand49]

It isn't right but here is a bit of my story not defending the Embassy.

 

Over 12 years ago I didn't understand fully the system as you can see each day in the news what the U.S. is going through with Immigration the country is so vast once you are in it is impossible for them to track you down but of course people are thinking what that got to do with us who are trying to go through the process legally.

 

Without going through my own long story the Embassy workers are provided with a number of set guidelines and criteria before the meeting the decision has already been made prior to the meeting with your wife. They aren't going to look at any last minute support documents unless submitted prior since they are allocated so much time. They are pretty much asking a few question to confirm everything the outcome is already determine unless you surprise them with something? Remember unless your wife speaks perfect English and can answer right off the top of her head as to the questions being asked questions are pretty much preset to try to get something out of you that might be inconsistent with your application. Regardless of what people think the Embassy don't leave it up to the interviewer.

 

One of the major criteria for a tourist visa is the guy has to have Thailand his domicile which means Thailand is his home which is a indication she will return. As noted was his passport submitted with the necessary stamps? In my brothers case his wife was denied after he heard some of the questions presented his passport that he has a retirement extension and Thailand is his domicile the decision was reverse right there and then. There was a time Americans were allow to go with the friend or wife that is no longer permitted it was said the change was made due to my case?

 

If the American is pretty much the sole bread winner or supporter that is another reason it is denied even if they own property like my wife including the house I purchased along with a income property for her and her son she had also inherited a lot of farm land from her parents. Sometimes it doesn't matter because as I know now if you have the resources you can come up with any type of false document if I know that you think the Embassy doesn't. A red flag unless more is provided why some applicants even with lots of money in the bank get declined, no pay stubs etc Bargirl?  That is the reality majority of the applicants believe it or not being denied is just that. How can they assume look around smell the coffee this is Thailand walk around the corner to Nana?

 

In my case, my wife and her son was refused the second time this time I was there although I was very polite some harsh words were said to me which I responded in kind in a special meeting a month later with the head guy in the back room explained it all to me that they are just doing what is required of them and some how the Embassy didn't get all the document that was submitted for her application. One big problem once they are in and have some resources like Attorneys can drag the case for years and exhaust government funds and tie up our courts. Now I don't live under a rock that kind of explain to me why there are so many Thai women working in massages places in the U.S. at least in my home????.

 

In our second interview when it was denied she ask me why I didn't apply for an immigration visa it would have been easier since the two of you have been married for 4 years. My problem was I had just retired and hadn't even had enough time to apply for a retirement extension. That questioned was ask to my wife and she basically responded " the only reason I'm here is because of him and his mother wishes to meet us, I'm 100% Thai and have no wish to live in his country and thank god he is willing to give it all up for us, her final words were if you want to give it great if not it is money in the bank for us "  Although I was upset I had to take a moment to smile.

 

In the end, I walked out the door and made a phone call back home that is how I got the special meeting a month later. Before our meeting was over my wife and her son got their tourist visa.

 

Living here you meet all sorts especially people who can do this or that recommendation from Thai friends or family. Tough none seem to speak a lick of English but that isn't going to stop them from trying to snow you or learn on your time.  When it comes to Immigration I happen to meet a wonderful lawyer who happens to be right across from the U.S. Embassy. Worse part of Thailand trying to do legal stuff is you can't even speak to the person that is the greatest frustration for me at least you won't have that problem even if you disagree you can disagree in perfect English! Her firm is well know with the Embassy record spotless.

 

Since meeting her I've and my brother has recommended here to a number of family members and friends who wanted to Immigrate their wives and kids to the U.S. all success stories include one who just left today. Everything is explain to you and your Thai wife in English and Thai step by step. Not sure about tourist visa as noted they are tough but giving a call would get your answer better than speculating I would never use an agent, whenever I hear the word agent my ass starts to burn?

 

I read someone else suggest a lawyer first or second page I didn't see an answer will not publish my contact so if anyone is interested contact PM.

 

Regardless, good luck

 

Since meeting her

Edited August 15, 2019 by thailand49

[Banana7]

1 hour ago, Bangkok or bust said:

Turns out a Thai national has to have strong ties to Thailand (she does) and weak ties to America. Being married to an American citizen and having an American citizen child are too heavy negatives and are considered strong American ties that's why she got denied. 

 

after speaking to a local attorney it looks like an immigrant visa is our only other option which is roughly a hundred thousand Thai baht and still no guarantee and also could take 12 to 14 months.

All of the real reasons for refusal may not have been communicated to you. All of the analysis, reasons and logic is probably in a government database. You may be able to file a "freedom of information request" to get a data dump from the database. The next time you file for a visa, the new IO will go to the database and get all her history. Your Congressman may have access to the database, but may not reveal all of the true contents.

 

I had a similar experience 5 months ago when trying to get my Thai GF a tourist visa to Canada. The official IO refusal letter stated 4 reasons, of which 3 sounded like BS. I filed a freedom of information request ($5) to get a complete dump from the Global Case Management System (GCMS), after getting privacy releases from my GF.

 

The database dump revealed the first and most significant reason as being "young woman to visit a significantly older man...." which was never mentioned in the refusal letter. It disqualified her as being a tourist. She would probably have qualified as a tourist, if she did not mention that she was going to visit me and just said going to tourist attractions like Niagara Falls etc..

 

The process to get tourists visas to Canada and USA has changed significantly in the last 8-12 months. They do not want poor unmarried young Thai women, who don't have significant compelling ties to return to Thailand, coming to Canada or USA. IO wants young Thai women to have a really good job in Thailand to compel them to return to Thailand. Good jobs are ones that require specialized qualification, like a nurse, doctor or other medical specialist, teacher, policewoman, etc., with a good salary.

 

The IO is looking at the candidate and trying to determine if he/she can easily have a better life in Thailand or USA/Canada especially in a financial capacity . A Thai nurse would have a difficult time obtaining the same status in USA as they currently enjoy Thailand. A Thai nurse would have to re-qualify in USA to get a nursing job in USA.

 

Another way to get her a visa maybe to post a bond. A friend indicated that if you offer to post a bond to guarantee her removal of USA within visa limits, the visa maybe issued. This was a valid non-public mechanism for Canada about 3 years ago, but may not be valid today for USA. $10K was adequate.

[Bangkok or bust]

13 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said:

OP, there must have been something your wife didn't tell you. Having enough cash and houses is proof enough that she'll come back. 

 

I'm not saying that your wife is dishonest, but something doesn't add 

up here. 

 

Don't you think that they get some information about a particular person before they start to interview them?

 

Best of luck when you try it again.

Like I've said, the US attorney I spoke to who specialises in these cases, said they predetermined her ineligibility because of her strong ties to America.(being married with US citizen and US citizen child.

 

In front of her face he used the lack of travel in her passport as an excuse.

[Bangkok or bust]

2 minutes ago, Banana7 said:

All of the real reasons for refusal may not have been communicated to you. All of the analysis, reasons and logic is probably in a government database. You may be able to file a "freedom of information request" to get a data dump from the database. The next time you file for a visa, the new IO will go to the database and get all her history. Your Congressman may have access to the database, but may not reveal all of the true contents.

 

I had a similar experience 5 months ago when trying to get my Thai GF a tourist visa to Canada. The official IO refusal letter stated 4 reasons, of which 3 sounded like BS. I filed a freedom of information request ($5) to get a complete dump from the Global Case Management System (GCMS), after getting privacy releases from my GF.

 

The database dump revealed the first and most significant reason as being "young woman to visit a significantly older man...." which was never mentioned in the refusal letter. It disqualified her as being a tourist. She would probably have qualified as a tourist, if she did not mention that she was going to visit me and just said going to tourist attractions like Niagara Falls etc..

 

The process to get tourists visas to Canada and USA has changed significantly in the last 8-12 months. They do not want poor unmarried young Thai women, who don't have significant compelling ties to return to Thailand, coming to Canada or USA. IO wants young Thai women to have a really good job in Thailand to compel them to return to Thailand. Good jobs are ones that require specialized qualification, like a nurse, doctor or other medical specialist, teacher, policewoman, etc., with a good salary.

 

The IO is looking at the candidate and trying to determine if he/she can easily have a better life in Thailand or USA/Canada especially in a financial capacity . A Thai nurse would have a difficult time obtaining the same status in USA as they currently enjoy Thailand. A Thai nurse would have to re-qualify in USA to get a nursing job in USA.

 

Another way to get her a visa maybe to post a bond. A friend indicated that if you offer to post a bond to guarantee her removal of USA within visa limits, the visa maybe issued. This was a valid non-public mechanism for Canada about 3 years ago, but may not be valid today for USA. $10K was adequate.

Your case is significantly different than mine. We are married for almost 2 years, we have a child who has a u.s. passport, they didn't look at any of her ties to Thailand as she owns two homes has a very good job and lots of money in the bank. 

[Bangkok or bust]

21 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

It isn't right but here is a bit of my story not defending the Embassy.

 

Over 12 years ago I didn't understand fully the system as you can see each day in the news what the U.S. is going through with Immigration the country is so vast once you are in it is impossible for them to track you down but of course people are thinking what that got to do with us who are trying to go through the process legally.

 

Without going through my own long story the Embassy workers are provided with a number of set guidelines and criteria before the meeting the decision has already been made prior to the meeting with your wife. They aren't going to look at any last minute support documents unless submitted prior since they are allocated so much time. They are pretty much asking a few question to confirm everything the outcome is already determine unless you surprise them with something? Remember unless your wife speaks perfect English and can answer right off the top of her head as to the questions being asked questions are pretty much preset to try to get something out of you that might be inconsistent with your application. Regardless of what people think the Embassy don't leave it up to the interviewer.

 

One of the major criteria for a tourist visa is the guy has to have Thailand his domicile which means Thailand is his home which is a indication she will return. As noted was his passport submitted with the necessary stamps? In my brothers case his wife was denied after he heard some of the questions presented his passport that he has a retirement extension and Thailand is his domicile the decision was reverse right there and then. There was a time Americans were allow to go with the friend or wife that is no longer permitted it was said the change was made due to my case?

 

If the American is pretty much the sole bread winner or supporter that is another reason it is denied even if they own property like my wife including the house I purchased along with a income property for her and her son she had also inherited a lot of farm land from her parents. Sometimes it doesn't matter because as I know now if you have the resources you can come up with any type of false document if I know that you think the Embassy doesn't. A red flag unless more is provided why some applicants even with lots of money in the bank get declined, no pay stubs etc Bargirl?  That is the reality majority of the applicants believe it or not being denied is just that. How can they assume look around smell the coffee this is Thailand walk around the corner to Nana?

 

In my case, my wife and her son was refused the second time this time I was there although I was very polite some harsh words were said to me which I responded in kind in a special meeting a month later with the head guy in the back room explained it all to me that they are just doing what is required of them and some how the Embassy didn't get all the document that was submitted for her application. One big problem once they are in and have some resources like Attorneys can drag the case for years and exhaust government funds and tie up our courts. Now I don't live under a rock that kind of explain to me why there are so many Thai women working in massages places in the U.S. at least in my home????.

 

In our second interview when it was denied she ask me why I didn't apply for an immigration visa it would have been easier since the two of you have been married for 4 years. My problem was I had just retired and hadn't even had enough time to apply for a retirement extension. That questioned was ask to my wife and she basically responded " the only reason I'm here is because of him and his mother wishes to meet us, I'm 100% Thai and have no wish to live in his country and thank god he is willing to give it all up for us, her final words were if you want to give it great if not it is money in the bank for us "  Although I was upset I had to take a moment to smile.

 

In the end, I walked out the door and made a phone call back home that is how I got the special meeting a month later. Before our meeting was over my wife and her son got their tourist visa.

 

Living here you meet all sorts especially people who can do this or that recommendation from Thai friends or family. Tough none seem to speak a lick of English but that isn't going to stop them from trying to snow you or learn on your time.  When it comes to Immigration I happen to meet a wonderful lawyer who happens to be right across from the U.S. Embassy. Worse part of Thailand trying to do legal stuff is you can't even speak to the person that is the greatest frustration for me at least you won't have that problem even if you disagree you can disagree in perfect English! Her firm is well know with the Embassy record spotless.

 

Since meeting her I've and my brother has recommended here to a number of family members and friends who wanted to Immigrate their wives and kids to the U.S. all success stories include one who just left today. Everything is explain to you and your Thai wife in English and Thai step by step. Not sure about tourist visa as noted they are tough but giving a call would get your answer better than speculating I would never use an agent, whenever I hear the word agent my ass starts to burn?

 

I read someone else suggest a lawyer first or second page I didn't see an answer will not publish my contact so if anyone is interested contact PM.

 

Regardless, good luck

 

Since meeting her

My wife owns 2 homes and has a very good job, also she speaks perfect English having graduated from ABAC . I am a stay at home dad since October 2018. As I was advised by the US attorney, they considered her ties to America too strong, being married to me and having a US citizen child. The ties to America must be very weak. The strong ties to America outweigh the strong ties to Thailand. It's BS, but it is what it is. 

Edited August 15, 2019 by Bangkok or bust

[rwill]

I love how you have to pay first and then if denied they keep the money.  I bet they have a quota of refusals to meet to generate more revenue.

[Bangkok or bust]

1 minute ago, rwill said:

I love how you have to pay first and then if denied they keep the money.  I bet they have a quota of refusals to meet to generate more revenue.

Seems that way. F'ing scammers. They got us good. 

[Bangkok or bust]

53 minutes ago, Handsome Gardener said:

Given most americans don't even have a passport and couldn't point out Europe on a map he's got some nerve !!! You can't travel because you've never travelled ? absolute <deleted>

 

Is there no appeals process ? 

 

I hope it works out for you, there's too much of this crap going on - and once you're in, a formal complaint about this idiot.

 

PS She wasn't dressed as a Mexican was she ?

No appeal, not dressed like a Mexican....hahahha it's just at their discretion, and they are real power drunk like the TSA. Probably some fat F _ k that lives for soi cowboy nights with pre op lady boys

[Bangkok or bust]

1 hour ago, lopburi3 said:

But you can not get an immigrant visa until cleared by USCIS.  The below website is your first step and filling out 130 form (if you can show you live in Thailand - if not they will advise you to use a US office).

https://www.uscis.gov/about-us/find-uscis-office/international-offices/thailand-uscis-bangkok-field-office

Thank you

[Bangkok Basha]

6 hours ago, sencelebi said:

She should reapply for the visa. You are a US citizen and you have right to take your family with you. There is no set requirements for foreign spouses to get visa. It all depends on the visa agent at the embassy. But again you have right to take your spouse and child with you to visit US.

Unfortunately, US citizens have no inherent legal right to "take their families with them". Non-US citizen family members must provide the same proof of intention to return as any other applicant. If an AmCit has children of their own with a Thai spouse, they are eligible for US citizenship, so there is no issue. If they are a non-U.S. citizen's children (by a previous marriage, for ex), and unless they have been adopted by the U.S. citizen step-parent, they have no automatic path to a visa. 

Edited August 15, 2019 by Bangkok Basha
Didn't finish the last sentence.

[gk10002000]

38 minutes ago, rwill said:

I love how you have to pay first and then if denied they keep the money.  I bet they have a quota of refusals to meet to generate more revenue.

Every country takes money up front for visa applications.  Goodness, many countries, such as NZ or OZ will give you the online visa, you then buy a ticket, plan your trip, spend trip money, fly there and then get denied!  Of course if one shows up with 10 kilos of cocaine in your suitcase, well refusal entry is understood!

[mamypoko]

you or you family in the States contact your local congressperson

they are usually eager to assist

[ericthai]

12 hours ago, Bangkok or bust said:

My wife has an 8 year career,2 houses and a lot of money in the bank. The officer only looked at her passport and saw no travel stamps and that her job was new. He didn't ask to see any other documents that would have easily proven her ties. At his discretion that was all he needed to know. 

Do you have a job in Thailand? If so, you need to re-apply and include you work permit, a letter from your company that you have X weeks vacation and been employed and have a contract for X years. This is what I did with a girl friend I had long time ago. She owned a condo, business, house up north but none of that mattered. I got a lawyer and he advised that we apply again and include my work permit, company letter and that worked.  Good Luck!! 

[Bangkok or bust]

2 minutes ago, ericthai said:

Do you have a job in Thailand? If so, you need to re-apply and include you work permit, a letter from your company that you have X weeks vacation and been employed and have a contract for X years. This is what I did with a girl friend I had long time ago. She owned a condo, business, house up north but none of that mattered. I got a lawyer and he advised that we apply again and include my work permit, company letter and that worked.  Good Luck!!

I do not currently have a work permit.  In this instance the officer refused to look at any of her supporting documents, and surely wouldn't have looked at my WP. It was obvious that this outcome was predetermined. We are married, different from just having a gf. 

 

Thanks for your input though.

[scoutman360]

9 hours ago, HomeinThailand said:

I am about to start the process for a US visa for my wife.  How long of a process is it to get a visa?

After the interview you/she will know very quickly. If they keep the passport, she gets the VISA. If they hand it back to her, no chance.

[GinBoy2]

3 hours ago, Bangkok Basha said:

Unfortunately, US citizens have no inherent legal right to "take their families with them". Non-US citizen family members must provide the same proof of intention to return as any other applicant. If an AmCit has children of their own with a Thai spouse, they are eligible for US citizenship, so there is no issue. If they are a non-U.S. citizen's children (by a previous marriage, for ex), and unless they have been adopted by the U.S. citizen step-parent, they have no automatic path to a visa. 

This is true, no US citizen has the right for their spouse to be granted a tourist visa. However a US citizen does have the legal right to petition for a immigrant visa for their spouse, which unless there is some underlying problem with the spouse, convictions for drugs, prostitution etc, get granted as a matter of ticking the boxes.

 

I think what goes through the CO's mind when the spouse of a US citizen applies for a tourist visa is, that without being able to demonstrate strong ties to Thailand, that they enter the US with you, then apply for an adjustment of status while in the United States, thereby attempting to circumvent the immigration process 

[stevew407]

Reading all this as I lie awake in bed unable to sleep. I have become focused on this as my #1 priority in life. We just got recently married again, after hearing that the village ceremony was insufficent and we were just following the Laws or rules as we were in the middle of a fiancee visa K-1 and if got married must start all over. This is a long and ugly story and learned more than I ever want to know but obviously not enough.  I think we should organize a protest as there are MANY UNFAIR ISSUES HERE.......and I just saw a post from the Philippines Embassy that I responded to about how easy and no agent required (which I agree with).  So I am easy to find and really want to go VISIT America and TRAVEL is what we like and do. The wife really doesn't care if she ever sees America but WE like to be TOGETHER and are BETTER TOGETHER, especially as I age unfortunately.  SO this is too long and a friend showed me this though I do try and follow the site. There is a lot of information here but the Fake and Real like everything today is or can be diffucult and rapidly changing?  Peace, love, happiness and understanding. We were told a LONG TIME AGO that we would be blacklisted or blackballed if we did not leave as I OBJECTED to the officer not even looking as was stated in all these stories - a few good and too many bad ones........It weighs very heavily and I think CHANGE IS HAPPENING and coming but TRUMP says FOLLOW the RULES and I challenge ANYONE to a SIMPLE CHECKLIST in a complex matter, but the THOUGHT good guys in and bad guys out is GREAT but the ACTIONS are where it is at and then we have some power tripping always or so it seems, I see a lot of people passing through but don't see too many working too hard or fast or caring too much.........I have a lot of stories, but unfortunately that doesn't get it done..........

[Isaanbiker]

10 hours ago, Bangkok or bust said:

Like I've said, the US attorney I spoke to who specialises in these cases, said they predetermined her ineligibility because of her strong ties to America.(being married with US citizen and US citizen child.

 

In front of her face he used the lack of travel in her passport as an excuse.

Let's be honest. How much do we really know about our wives' past?

 

People who believe that saying anything that could be considered negative just don't talk about their past if it's inconvenient or could be part of the lost face culture.

 

    

 

   

[Bangkok or bust]

30 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said:

Let's be honest. How much do we really know about our wives' past?

 

People who believe that saying anything that could be considered negative just don't talk about their past if it's inconvenient or could be part of the lost face culture.

 

    

 

   

It's a visa is interview, she's not joining the FBI. Being married to an American is considered very strong ties to America. No matter how strong her Thailand ties are. It's an unfair assumption by this over powered consular division.