Phuket: Aussie denies shoplifting - but Phuket police say they have him banged to rights

[webfact]

Phuket: Aussie denies shoplifting - but Phuket police say they have him banged to rights

 

Thai caption: Aussie man arrested

 

Phuket's top brass tourist police turned out at a press conference yesterday to announce the arrest of a 38 year old Australian man who they claim has been shoplifting. 

 

A search of a room rented by an Australian man in Muang district of Phuket found a hidden drone worth nearly 29,000 baht that police say he stole from a department store on Boxing Day. 

 

Seven other designer items such as Gucci and Prada ladies bags and sunglasses were also taken into evidence. 

 

The Australian man denies being a thief. 

 

The Wichit police received a complaint of theft of a drone on December 27th and investigations led to the Australian. A warrant for theft was issued in his name by the court on New Year's Eve. 

 

The Australian man was arrested at Phuket airport after he returned to the island. 

 

After an interrogation in which he denied theft he was taken to his room where a drone and the other items were found. 

 

Region 3 commander of the tourist police Pol Maj-Gen Krissak Songmoonnark said they have plenty of evidence including witness testimony and CCTV footage with which to prosecute the Australian. 

 

A store employee has told the police that he was showing a foreigner the drone before he walked off. While he was distracted with other customers the foreigner walked back and made off with the drone valued at 28,990 baht.

 

The police have asked other shops that may have lost the designer goods to come forward and view the items at the Wichit police station. 

 

Source: Sanook

 

 

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[unamazedloso]

doesnt look like the gucci type.

[ezzra]

38 minutes ago, webfact said:

Phuket's top brass tourist police turned out at a press conference yesterday to announce the arrest of a 38 year old Australian man who they claim has been shoplifting. 

Right, Top brass gather for a shoplifter, anyone who reads this and don't know much about Thailand will be excused to think that there are no crimes in this country and if the top brass is involved in a shoplifting case, Thailand must a country where the worst crimes are petty crimes... 

[legend49]

but Phuket police say they have him banged to rights

 

Can any TV reader explain this phrase???

[Denim]

2 minutes ago, legend49 said:

but Phuket police say they have him banged to rights

 

Can any TV reader explain this phrase???

 

Means he hasn't got a leg to stand on. Hope that helps.

[beechbum]

3 minutes ago, legend49 said:

but Phuket police say they have him banged to rights

 

Can any TV reader explain this phrase???

bang to rights

phrase of right

 

1. INFORMAL

   (of a criminal) with positive proof of guilt.

   "we've got you bang to rights handling stolen property"

[Raymonddiaz]

Traveling in a fried-out combie
On a hippie trail, head full of zombie
I met a strange lady, she made me nervous
She took me in and gave me breakfast
And she said

Do you come from a land down under?
Where women glow and men plunder?
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Buying bread from a man in Brussels
He was six-foot-four and full of muscles
I said, "do you speak-a my language?"
He just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich
And he said

I come from a land down under
Where beer does flow and men chunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover, yeah

Lyin' in a den in Bombay
With a slack jaw, and not much to say
I said to the man, "are you trying to tempt me
Because I come from the land of plenty?"
And he said

Do you come from a land down under? (oh yeah yeah)
Where women glow and men plunder?
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Living in a land down under
Where women glow and men plunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Living in a land down under
Where women glow and men plunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Living in a land down under
Where women glow and men plunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Living in a land down under
Where women glow and men plunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?

 

Genetics? Criminal ancestors???

[mokwit]

12 minutes ago, legend49 said:

but Phuket police say they have him banged to rights

 

Can any TV reader explain this phrase???

Means he's going down. HTH

[cnx101]

2 hours ago, unamazedloso said:

doesnt look like the gucci type.

Yeah I thought he’d be more like this haha

[POMRAKSIAM]

If I was a cop or "top brass" I would be humiliated to have a shoplifter as a high profile news worthy story!

[silver sea]

35 minutes ago, legend49 said:

but Phuket police say they have him banged to rights

 

Can any TV reader explain this phrase???

Here is some info on the origin of the phrase. I have simply copied and pasted comments from two sites. The links to the two sites are given at the bottom. Hope this helps ????

 

The answer is in Eric Partridge's book "A Dictionary of Catch Phrases American and British":

 

BANG TO RIGHTS! 'A fair cop'--a justifiable arest for an obvious crime; underworld, since before 1930. Hence, a police and London's East End catchphrase by 1935 at latest, and a fairly general slangy catchphrase since c. 1950. Note Frank Norman's engaging criminal reminiscences, "Bang to Rights," 1950. For the 'bang' part of the phrase cf. 'bang on!'; 'to rights' = rightfully.

BANG ON! was a bomber crews' catchphrase of WW2 and it meant that everything was all right; in the nuances 'dead accurate' and 'strikingly apposite', it was adopted by civilians in 1945 . . .

 

Ir seems to have started as an americanism, the earliest recorded use of the phrase being in a publication called Life in Sing Sing. Sing Sing is, of course, the nickname of a famous American prison. The idea behind it there is that the person was caught in the act of some misdeed. 

We find the same sense of 'bang' when we use phrases such as 'Bang in the middle' or 'It hit him bang on the nose.' There, too, there is a suggestion that it was exactly right, just as being caught in the act means you cannot possibly deny it.

 

BANG TO RIGHTS! 'A fair cop'--a justifiable arest for an obvious crime; underworld, since before 1930. Hence, a police and London's East End catchphrase by 1935 at latest, and a fairly general slangy catchphrase since c. 1950. Note Frank Norman's engaging criminal reminiscences, "Bang to Rights," 1950. For the 'bang' part of the phrase cf. 'bang on!'; 'to rights' = rightfully. 

 

‘Bang to rights', which is what the question is about, is definitely first recorded as an American idiom in the Sing Sing item I referred to earlier and that was published in 1904. 

'A fair cop' was first recorded in Britain in the 1890s and it was in common use long before the 1930s. 

Although the two phrases clearly have similar meanings, V S Prasad they're not the same thing. And I actually used the words 'bang on' as an illustration in my earlier answer, too!

 

Sources:

 

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Phrases-and-Sayings/Question570902.html

 

 

https://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/10/messages/907.html

Edited January 6, 2020 by silver sea

[Oziex1]

1 hour ago, POMRAKSIAM said:

If I was a cop or "top brass" I would be humiliated to have a shoplifter as a high profile news worthy story!

They just can't contain themselves when foreigners are involved, foreigners may also be a source of extra income to fight the charges.

[RichardColeman]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The police have asked other shops that may have lost the designer goods to come forward and view the items at the Wichit police station.

And cue mass false accusations for compensation

[Mick501]

2 hours ago, Raymonddiaz said:

 

 

Genetics? Criminal ancestors???

 This bloke will be punished by deportation to Australia.  Not much changed in 230 years.

[CNXexpat]

A press conference because shop lifting. If they would do this in other countries, the police has no time for other things anymore. 

[AjarnMartin]

3 hours ago, legend49 said:

but Phuket police say they have him banged to rights

 

Can any TV reader explain this phrase???

The correct English idiomatic phrase is “bang to rights” not “banged to rights” which means that there ‘is no doubt’ as to the person’s guilt.

[Jane Dough]

1 hour ago, AjarnMartin said:

The correct English idiomatic phrase is “bang to rights” not “banged to rights” which means that there ‘is no doubt’ as to the person’s guilt.

Banged-to-rights dictionary definition | banged-to-rights defined

 

https://www.yourdictionary.com › banged-to-rights

1.  

banged-to-rights definition: Adverb (not comparable) 1. Alternative form of bang to rights.Verb banged to rights 2. simple past tense and past participle of bang to ...

 

Dear Ajarn,

 

Let Google be your modern day friend.

 

Rooster

 

 

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, unamazedloso said:

doesnt look like the gucci type.

Gucci Gucci Gotcha !!

[Traubert]

7 hours ago, ezzra said:

Right, Top brass gather for a shoplifter, anyone who reads this and don't know much about Thailand will be excused to think that there are no crimes in this country and if the top brass is involved in a shoplifting case, Thailand must a country where the worst crimes are petty crimes... 

It's become a diplomatic incident. His embassy will have to be involved as he's in detention.

 

Ergo, they don't leave it to Policeman Plod to explain to all and sundry.

 

Dear God, does nobody ever see the wider picture here?

[SteveK]

4 hours ago, POMRAKSIAM said:

If I was a cop or "top brass" I would be humiliated to have a shoplifter as a high profile news worthy story!

You're obviously not a Thai policeman then. They love to get everyone out for a photo opportunity even if an OAP has been caught on overstay.

 

Any crime detected without multiple brown envelopes changing hands are a photo opportunity.

Edited January 6, 2020 by SteveK

[CharlieK]

5 hours ago, Raymonddiaz said:

Traveling in a fried-out combie
On a hippie trail, head full of zombie
I met a strange lady, she made me nervous
She took me in and gave me breakfast
And she said

Do you come from a land down under?
Where women glow and men plunder?
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Buying bread from a man in Brussels
He was six-foot-four and full of muscles
I said, "do you speak-a my language?"
He just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich
And he said

I come from a land down under
Where beer does flow and men chunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover, yeah

Lyin' in a den in Bombay
With a slack jaw, and not much to say
I said to the man, "are you trying to tempt me
Because I come from the land of plenty?"
And he said

Do you come from a land down under? (oh yeah yeah)
Where women glow and men plunder?
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Living in a land down under
Where women glow and men plunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Living in a land down under
Where women glow and men plunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Living in a land down under
Where women glow and men plunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Living in a land down under
Where women glow and men plunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?

 

Genetics? Criminal ancestors???

Men at Work. LOL 

Well Australia was a penal colony. 555

[CharlieK]

37 minutes ago, Traubert said:

It's become a diplomatic incident. His embassy will have to be involved as he's in detention.

 

Ergo, they don't leave it to Policeman Plod to explain to all and sundry.

 

Dear God, does nobody ever see the wider picture here?

What utter rubbish. It's only a diplomatic incident if the guy was a diplomat <deleted>. The top brass like to have their picture taken even with shoplifters. Just another photo op. 

[Andrew65]

5 hours ago, Raymonddiaz said:

Traveling in a fried-out combie
On a hippie trail, head full of zombie
I met a strange lady, she made me nervous
She took me in and gave me breakfast
And she said

Do you come from a land down under?
Where women glow and men plunder?
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Buying bread from a man in Brussels
He was six-foot-four and full of muscles
I said, "do you speak-a my language?"
He just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich
And he said

I come from a land down under
Where beer does flow and men chunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover, yeah

Lyin' in a den in Bombay
With a slack jaw, and not much to say
I said to the man, "are you trying to tempt me
Because I come from the land of plenty?"
And he said

Do you come from a land down under? (oh yeah yeah)
Where women glow and men plunder?
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Living in a land down under
Where women glow and men plunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Living in a land down under
Where women glow and men plunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Living in a land down under
Where women glow and men plunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover

Living in a land down under
Where women glow and men plunder
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?

 

Genetics? Criminal ancestors???

Yes, sung and co-written by a guy originally from Scotland!!??????

[ericthai]

11 hours ago, Traubert said:

It's become a diplomatic incident. His embassy will have to be involved as he's in detention.

 

Ergo, they don't leave it to Policeman Plod to explain to all and sundry.

 

Dear God, does nobody ever see the wider picture here?

He's not a diplomat, so the embassy will not get involved. The embassy will be in contact with him, but they wont do anything other than provide advise, communication between relatives, transfer of funds things like that.

So, whatever the Thai judicial system wants to do with him is up to them. 

 

 

[brianthainess]

15 hours ago, CNXexpat said:

A press conference because shop lifting. If they would do this in other countries, the police has no time for other things anymore. 

As with small amounts of drugs, smoking a joint etc complete waste of time slap on wrist and a warning at most, like Thais with bad driving, what about a press conference for  jumping a red light ? THAT might actually work now i think about it, but.....

[AjarnMartin]

On 1/6/2020 at 6:27 PM, Jane Dough said:

Banged-to-rights dictionary definition | banged-to-rights defined

 

https://www.yourdictionary.com › banged-to-rights

1.  

banged-to-rights definition: Adverb (not comparable) 1. Alternative form of bang to rights.Verb banged to rights 2. simple past tense and past participle of bang to ...

 

Dear Ajarn,

 

Let Google be your modern day friend.

 

Rooster

 

 

Thanks but no thanks. Neither Google nor Wikipedia are good sources for BRITISH ENGLISH but I’m grateful for the thought. ????

[GBW]

1 hour ago, AjarnMartin said:

Thanks but no thanks. Neither Google nor Wikipedia are good sources for BRITISH ENGLISH but I’m grateful for the thought. ????

Agreed, I too do not rely on Google or Wikipedia, I just ask my wife, she knows everything ............... EVERYTHING!!!!!

[PhineusFreek]

Hate thieves. Immoral scum. Id like to see them treated as in Africa where they are beaten to death by the mob on the spot .

[champers]

On 1/6/2020 at 7:25 PM, CharlieK said:

What utter rubbish. It's only a diplomatic incident if the guy was a diplomat <deleted>. The top brass like to have their picture taken even with shoplifters. Just another photo op. 

If he was a diplomat he would have diplomatic immunity.

[CharlieK]

24 minutes ago, champers said:

If he was a diplomat he would have diplomatic immunity.

If he was a diplomat maybe he wouldn't be going around shoplifting! But it would still cause a diplomatic incident. For obvious reasons!