31 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Some Thais.

 

 

French people like wine.

 

Japanese make good motorcycles.

 

Thailands appalling ranking in road death statistics has firmly imprinted upon the minds of anyone who has bothered to notice that........Thais are bad drivers.

 

That's the way it is.

 

Get those statistics sorted and maybe everyone will go back to stereotyping Thai people as "good Buddhists".........maybe.

 

 

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Hank Gunn said:

Except with a total population of approximately 69 million, it’s highly doubtful there are 68 million Thai drivers. 
 

I see it on a daily basis: Thais who can’t spend the extra two minutes to drive up to a U-turn but instead drive down the wrong side of the road; Thais who have a red light but can’t wait to make a left turn as traffic with a green light (i.e. the right of way) proceed through an intersection; and my favorite, Thais who just pull out of small sois and driveways without looking or slowing down because they just can’t wait.

 

And..... some Falangs who rent out mopeds while on holiday having never driven one before and having no bike licence, wearing no helmets, having a few beers and driving irratically when drunk.... yes, even pulling out into traffic from small streets, or suddenly swerving from their lane in front of a car.

 

And... more falangs renting out bike motor bikes, again with no expeience.. and speeding up and down the street till they have an accident.

 

Even the tourists who ignore red flags on the beach and drown, the ones that fall off balconies, the ones that randomly walk out into busy traffic, or fall off cliffs or walls trying to get selfies. 

 

And, I have seen a good few falangs driving drunk, going through red lights, not wearing helmets, even going the wrong way to cut out a U turn also!  

 

 

 

 

Hmmm, wrong gear selected.....????

I mean, how much of a hurry must he have been in to avoid the easy path? Looking at the location, it's no easy feat to get your bike over the rails unless you're Evel Knievel. 

 

This is how you do it.

 

 

1 hour ago, Yinn said:

Except the 68 million Thai who waited, is alive. 

 

Is that so?  30-50 thousands of THAI people die every year due to 'brake failures', 'micro sleep' etc.

 

 

2 hours ago, Yinn said:

2 hours ago, Hank Gunn said:

Except with a total population of approximately 69 million, it’s highly doubtful there are 68 million Thai drivers. 
 

I see it on a daily basis: Thais who can’t spend the extra two minutes to drive up to a U-turn but instead drive down the wrong side of the road; Thais who have a red light but can’t wait to make a left turn as traffic with a green light (i.e. the right of way) proceed through an intersection; and my favorite, Thais who just pull out of small sois and driveways without looking or slowing down because they just can’t wait.

Some Thais.

Notice I didn't say "all Thais" or "most Thais". I just said that I see everyday, Thais who drive dangerously because they just can't wait (in response to someone who made that claim initially). You like to generalize about "farang sex-perverts" who flaunt their Thai prostitutes but when someone makes a generally accurate observation about Thais, you get very defensive. Remember, this topic is about someone who deliberately went around lowered barriers and ignored flashing warnings at a railroad crossing.

 

I stand by my statement about the three dangerous driving habits that I see on a daily basis (whenever I leave my house) on the roads here. In some cases, it's multiple instances within a short period/distance. Thailand's road statistics speak for themselves.

3 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

 

 

 

And..... some Falangs who rent out mopeds while on holiday having never driven one before and having no bike licence, wearing no helmets, having a few beers and driving irratically when drunk.... yes, even pulling out into traffic from small streets, or suddenly swerving from their lane in front of a car.

 

And... more falangs renting out bike motor bikes, again with no expeience.. and speeding up and down the street till they have an accident.

 

Even the tourists who ignore red flags on the beach and drown, the ones that fall off balconies, the ones that randomly walk out into busy traffic, or fall off cliffs or walls trying to get selfies. 

 

And, I have seen a good few falangs driving drunk, going through red lights, not wearing helmets, even going the wrong way to cut out a U turn also!  

 

 

 

And what percentage of farang idiot tourists crash and injure themselves here while on holidays. Certainly there are those and the ones who live here and have adopted the "Thai driving habits" but those numbers pale in comparison to the examples I cited.

 

Oh yes, that old chestnut. I'm critical about something Thai, therefore I must be a racist. How <deleted>' stupid. So I guess my Thai wife is a racist too, since she is even more critical of Thai drivers than I am. (She learned to drive in the US and drive several years there, and while there are certainly many poor drivers there, the difference between there and Thailand is incomparable.

5 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

If it was just a line and some light/siren.

But this very busy salesman in a rush drove around the lowered bars.

Nothing can stop them.

His family won't find it funny.

 

No; they will say it was caused by 'Evil Spirits' instead of his own stupidity !

4 hours ago, Hank Gunn said:

And what percentage of farang idiot tourists crash and injure themselves here while on holidays. Certainly there are those and the ones who live here and have adopted the "Thai driving habits" but those numbers pale in comparison to the examples I cited.

 

Oh yes, that old chestnut. I'm critical about something Thai, therefore I must be a racist. How <deleted>' stupid. So I guess my Thai wife is a racist too, since she is even more critical of Thai drivers than I am. (She learned to drive in the US and drive several years there, and while there are certainly many poor drivers there, the difference between there and Thailand is incomparable.

I think % of foreigner tourist crash higher than Thai. 

Look at Phuket hospital, have foreigner everyday. 

6 minutes ago, Yinn said:

I think % of foreigner tourist crash higher than Thai. 

Look at Phuket hospital, have foreigner everyday. 

What hospital in Phuket is this? I would like to go and look.

11 minutes ago, Yinn said:

I think % of foreigner tourist crash higher than Thai. 

Look at Phuket hospital, have foreigner everyday. 

First, what percentage of those foreign tourists in the hospital are there due to the atrocious driving habits of Thais. But even then, as I said, you can witness multiple instances of some of the worst driving on Thai roads every single day (not just once or twice a week).

 

Look, the numbers just don't lie. Even the government, who hardly ever admits to a problem, has acknowledged the horrible death rates on Thai roads. Next you'll say that they're all due to foreign tourists.

 

Second, you and the poster who brought up tourists are simply deflecting from the topic at hand. The horrible driving standards in Thailand, manifested in this case by a motorcyclist who willfully drove around a lowered barrier at a railroad crossing, while the signals were flashing. Foreign tourists and their mishaps on Thai roads have nothing to do with this. Again, this is about Thai drivers and their atrocious driving.

 

According the W.H.O. (World Health Organization) in 2016 32.7 Thais out of a 100,000 died on Thai roads. By comparison, in the U.S. it was 12.4 for that same year and in Indonesia, a less-developed country with worse roads, that death-rate was 12.2, with most of Europe having single-digit fatalities/100,000. As I said, the numbers don't lie.

20 minutes ago, Hank Gunn said:

First, what percentage of those foreign tourists in the hospital are there due to the atrocious driving habits of Thais. 

12%

21 minutes ago, Yinn said:

12%

Source please. And no, I won't accept some made up BS from Thai hospitals or the Thai government trying to fleece foreigners for the most dangerous roads outside of Libya (basically a failed state).

 

But again your'e deflecting. This isn't about foreign tourists getting hurt on Thai roads, whether it's their fault or the fault of some of the worst drivers in the world. It's about how Thai drivers cut corners (both literally and figuratively) on the roads here, that lead to such high mortality rates. Again, read the OP. This numpty drive AROUND lowered barriers at a railroad crossing while signal lights were flashing.

I can quickly come up with more than impatient to describe this kind of behaviour.

Seems like they are in such a rush and when they get to there destination they do nothing for hours

1 minute ago, kwak250 said:

Seems like they are in such a rush and when they get to there destination they do nothing for hours

Used to say that in Saudi Arabia, the locals would drive like maniacs, still arrive for work late and only drink tea all day. 

16 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

mopeds

Not too many in Thailand.

18 hours ago, mfd101 said:

Quite apart from the commonsense aspect: poor judgment of space & speed.

 

Something I notice quite often here on the roads. In The West we think of that as mostly a female driver problem ...

In the case of a train in Pattaya you'd have to be completely incapable of estimating speed pf approach.  They travel at a snail's pace thru the city.  Trains are so infrequent, people don't even look anymore.  You see it everyday.  Coupled with a lack of deductive reasoning, which is endemic here (Barriers down means train coming), it's only a matter of time & luck really.

18 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

If they do not know his identity then how do they know he was a car salesman....

Some people on here are just too picky.....????????

Even some pickup drivers have learnt that arguing with a train is a bad idea......LOL

I find no humour in the death, injury or misfortune of others. Those that do, I wish you well...well far from me.

Bet he was one hell of a car salesman though.

 

 

19 minutes ago, Graemej100 said:

What a terrible thing to say about something like this. It must be terrible to wake up every morning looking for something bad to say about someone. 

 

Correct...

I have no time or sympathy for people like this. They are a danger to every other road user and this country is full of them.

Hope you or your family and friends are never on the receiving end of selfish/ignorant driving by these type of people..

Innocent people are killed on the roads here everyday, so the more idiots that take themselves out the equation, the better for everyone else.

No apologies from me

21 hours ago, Rimmer said:

A motorcyclist too impatient to wait for an oncoming train was killed by it in Pattaya

He won't do that again !

2 hours ago, Benmart said:

I find no humour in the death, injury or misfortune of others. Those that do, I wish you well...well far from me.

Each to there own... that's what makes the world interesting.

RIP for this man, who was in too much of a hurry.  It is better to be 5 minutes late in

this life, than to be early in the next. That is why patience is one of the virtuous.

Geezer

I gave a thai woman a telling off because she pulled out on me and had a kid on motorcycle with her . Her farang husband a few days later asked me why I spoke to his wife like that so I gave him come my home and showed him my dash cam video , he was thankful to me but so angry her that he made her walk their kid to school the next few days . She hates me for this 

5 hours ago, Benmart said:

I find no humour in the death, injury or misfortune of others. Those that do, I wish you well...well far from me.

Agree. 3 out 4 pages of comments from the usual bigots who would be RIP-ING all over the show and demanding others to be respectful if an old farang killed himself. But it was a Thai person, so it's game on to see who can come up with the lamest comment. 

This guy was someone's son, possibly husband or partner and may have had children.

Hang your heads in shame.

On 3/8/2020 at 1:15 PM, Vacuum said:

On 3/8/2020 at 12:36 PM, Rimmer said:

A motorcyclist too impatient to wait for an oncoming train was killed

 

On 3/8/2020 at 12:36 PM, Rimmer said:

The unidentified 33-year-old car salesman rode around a lowered barrier at the rail crossing

I've said it before ( and got some flak for it), Thais on a motorized vehicle just can't wait.

I've said it before (and got some flak for it) but was there any evidence that maybe the train was speeding?

10 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

I've said it before (and got some flak for it) but was there any evidence that maybe the train was speeding?

Are you suggesting that the train should have slowed down so the "impatient motorcyclist" should have time to drive around a lowered barrier and make it across the railroad? His family/insurance (if any) should compensate the train driver.