Normal polite behavior in Public!

[Tagged]

I have been twice to my local immigration, and twice there have been one Scandinavian, who have been rude, impolite, shouting, stressing the people working there. I am myself Scandinavian, and I must say, I was so embarrassed by these two. 

 

 

The one yesterday, came in, being lauded, shaking hands and hugging is friend, (I guess it is not so vise to do so in these corona times), and then after a short chat, turn around and shout where is my number, I want a number. Is there no queue number here, why is it no system? Continue talking laud With his friend about the lack of system, and walk up to the working ladies desk, and want a queue number, "I do not want to sit here and not know my number". The lady being polite say they have a queue system, and he continue arguing with here in a rude tone, for then being asked to leave his passport at her desk and walk back to his friend continue to be loud. 

 

I have seen the same behaviors at embassies, restaurants, shops, and everywhere else you can imagine. Also against some poor fellow working at a national park, and let their frustration turn at the man or woman working there.

 

I wanted so bad to take this man outside and have a chat with him, but got my things done, and left silent. 

 

 

How can we improve our impressions and reputations having idiots behaving like this? Simple question.

 

Especially at these times, we are not the god given gifts to thais, their frustration could easily turn against us at som point. Just a heads up, behave, and be polite, we are their guests. Simple as that. 

[4MyEgo]

There will always be others who are "different", have you ever heard of Karma, it takes its course, trust me, and if these clowns are treating immigration officers this way, well who knows maybe they have something coming sooner, than later, hopefully, a declined visa stamp in their passport, go straight to Swampy, do not collect $200.

[MisterTee]

Disgusted by fellow farangs behaving badly?

Welcome to the club.

[ezzra]

The world is full of rude ubnoctious Ass Ho**s and Thailand is no differant and there's nothing you can do to get them to behave otherwise, lucky us the polite kind outnumber those useless boors...

[from the home of CC]

sounds like he was drunk, as many are imbibing now due to stress, like to see all bars shuttered and restrict sales to minimize stupid intoxicated behavior in these times..

[Tagged]

3 minutes ago, MisterTee said:

Disgusted by fellow farangs behaving badly?

Welcome to the club.

You know, some of them is married to important government workers. They even brag about the stickers they have on their car, or some kind of proof their wife have given them, so they can get away with almost anything. 

 

Not sure about this fellow, but he seemed to feel quite important! In my opinion, he should have gotten a nose job for such behavior. 

[Tagged]

2 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

sounds like he was drunk, as many are imbibing now due to stress, like to see all bars shuttered and restrict sales to minimize stupid intoxicated behavior in these times..

Could not smell or see if he was on any substance at all. Just normal behavior such a type of human. The more laud and important you act, the quicker you get served. 

Edited March 17, 2020 by Tagged

[from the home of CC]

3 minutes ago, Tagged said:

Could not smell or see if he was on any substance at all. Just normal behavior such a type of human. The more laud and important you act, the quicker you get served. 

and people wonder why some Thais are not impressed with us..

[Dmaxdan]

23 minutes ago, Tagged said:

How can we improve our impressions and reputations having idiots behaving like this? Simple question.

I think the immigration officers see enough people everyday to know that rude, impolite behavior directed at them is the exception rather than the rule. 

[steven100]

6 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

sounds like he was drunk, as many are imbibing now due to stress, like to see all bars shuttered and restrict sales to minimize stupid intoxicated behavior in these times..

what a strange analysis ...  i get drunk every day but i don't shout and carry on as described by the OP.

Am i different   ? 

[Tagged]

2 minutes ago, Dmaxdan said:

I think the immigration officers see enough people everyday to know that rude, impolite behavior directed at them is the exception rather than the rule. 

Wherever you go, there is always one! At least

[baansgr]

Shouting is a sign of weakness, and seriously won't get you anywhere here. I'm lucky to be under Jomtien which is professional and obliging always. Certainly be polite at all times

[Lacessit]

I've found here being polite, and not looking as if you are angry, gets me a lot further with every Thai. It also gets people a lot further with me.

Edited March 17, 2020 by Lacessit
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[fruitman]

Well it is strange that they don't know how to get a number...was there no queue or desk or ticket machine?

[Tagged]

2 minutes ago, fruitman said:

Well it is strange that they don't know how to get a number...was there no queue or desk or ticket machine?

Nope, quite a small immigration, and hardly believe it is useally no more than a handfull of people there at most, yesterday I guess we where 7 at the moment he turned his frustration against the system ????. 

 

First time I was there it was only me, until this other fella showed up, and made a scene. I could tell his wife was fed up with him, and tried to excuse her self, when she tried to solve the problem for him, and he sitting in the back leaned back shouting to the staff, they where wrong, and he was right. 

[fruitman]

35 minutes ago, Tagged said:

Nope, quite a small immigration, and hardly believe it is useally no more than a handfull of people there at most, yesterday I guess we where 7 at the moment he turned his frustration against the system ????. 

 

First time I was there it was only me, until this other fella showed up, and made a scene. I could tell his wife was fed up with him, and tried to excuse her self, when she tried to solve the problem for him, and he sitting in the back leaned back shouting to the staff, they where wrong, and he was right. 

Well i guess it's time they introduce a ticket system or at least a desk behind the door where applicants can speak to somebody. 

For people from the developed world it can be frustrating to do everything old style like 30 years ago...and also the immigration officers who can't speak english isn't very professional.

Nevertheless the foreigners have to be polite, dress polite, behave polite...but the same goes for the immigration officers and i've noticed that they don't do that themselves either...like calling people by their first name when there passport is ready...why not call them out loud by their last name including the word mister or misses...just calling the name Peter, Peter while peter has no idea that he's being called isn't professional. And if they call christian names from the passport while the applicant has another first name is frustrating.

Edited March 17, 2020 by fruitman

[Tagged]

6 minutes ago, fruitman said:

Well i guess it's time they introduce a ticket system or at least a desk behind the door where applicants can speak to somebody. 

For people from the developed world it can be frustrating to do everything old style like 30 years ago...and also the immigration officers who can't speak english isn't very professional.

Nevertheless the foreigners have to be polite, dress polite, behave polite...but the same goes for the immigration officers and i've noticed that they don't do that themselves either...like calling people by their first name when there passport is ready...why not call them out loud by their last name including the word mister or misses...just calling the name Peter, Peter while peter has no idea that he's being called isn't professional. And if they call christian names from the passport while the applicant has another first name is frustrating.

Im sorry, I do not follow you on this one. The front desk woman, had done nothing to get yelled at in such manner at all. She is busy taking care of things, for other customers, and he think he can just open up a show for himself on their cost. As well all of the 3 girls we have been in contact with, spoke decent english as well. 

 

On my behalf, I always bring my gf, or someone else who speak their language fluent, and do not believe it is their job to know, Chinese, English, Russian, French or Swedish. 

 

And a last thing, I never had a problem with any immigration office in Thailand, always been treated good, and they have been polite. Even at arrival in the airports, never a single bad work or any trouble from them at all. 

[VillageIdiot]

2 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

There will always be others who are "different", have you ever heard of Karma, it takes its course, trust me, and if these clowns are treating immigration officers this way, well who knows maybe they have something coming sooner, than later, hopefully, a declined visa stamp in their passport, go straight to Swampy, do not collect $200.

Karma catches up with all of us sooner or later.

[CharlieH]

Several troll comments and responses removed.

[champers]

2 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

sounds like he was drunk, as many are imbibing now due to stress, like to see all bars shuttered and restrict sales to minimize stupid intoxicated behavior in these times..

Probably bought from a 7/11 or Family Mart.

[Puchaiyank]

Another dirty disgusting farang?   Open season now?

[from the home of CC]

6 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

I think the immigration officers see enough people everyday to know that rude, impolite behavior directed at them is the exception rather than the rule. 

That would only be due to the fact people would be cutting their own throats. A long time ago I worked for the public in a government office, I found out many people are a**holes -  especially when they can't get their own way..

[Tagged]

26 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

That would only be due to the fact people would be cutting their own throats. A long time ago I worked for the public in a government office, I found out many people are a**holes -  especially when they can't get their own way..

Just to be clear, that was not the scenario here! 

[Benmart]

Serenity Prayer. I can only modify my behavior, and not that of others. 

[Khun Yaaai]

21 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

sounds like he was drunk, as many are imbibing now due to stress, like to see all bars shuttered and restrict sales to minimize stupid intoxicated behavior in these times..

Spot on. Made an interesting observation on that note in the local Foodland yesterday, had 2 categories of customers basically: cat 1) cart full of meat, canned food, TP while cat 2) cart filled up with booze.

[chuang]

Just get used to it, they are everywhere sadly.

[fittobethaied]

This is the same sort of mentality that one might observe when thrown in a holding cell with other prisoners. It's all about survival of the fittest and control. These people are very insecure and have low intellect, bad character and no respect for social graces, so they can only hope to control and manipulate others by brute force and loud lip service. It's all they understand and all they know to do to get their way, and they've probably been using those tactics all their life. Best thing to do is just keep quiet and remove yourself from their environment as soon as possible. Trying to correct them or teach them a lessor or two is only a pipe dream and may take you further than you want to go!

Edited March 18, 2020 by fittobethaied
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[elgenon]

Does delighting in the fact that you think someone will be on the receiving end of bad karma invite bad karma to you? Just wondering.

[Tagged]

10 minutes ago, elgenon said:

Does delighting in the fact that you think someone will be on the receiving end of bad karma invite bad karma to you? Just wondering.

We do not know, but you think so, then you will experience bad karma of you put a karma spell on someone else. 

 

It is what you believe,

 

You see Weinstein had to pay up his karma account at last, even he did som good things in his own eyes. 

 

Im quite sure the mainperson in this history, would dissaggree with my description on his behavior. 

Edited March 18, 2020 by Tagged

[paulbrow]

21 hours ago, fruitman said:

Well i guess it's time they introduce a ticket system or at least a desk behind the door where applicants can speak to somebody. 

For people from the developed world it can be frustrating to do everything old style like 30 years ago...and also the immigration officers who can't speak english isn't very professional.

Nevertheless the foreigners have to be polite, dress polite, behave polite...but the same goes for the immigration officers and i've noticed that they don't do that themselves either...like calling people by their first name when there passport is ready...why not call them out loud by their last name including the word mister or misses...just calling the name Peter, Peter while peter has no idea that he's being called isn't professional. And if they call christian names from the passport while the applicant has another first name is frustrating.

Edited 20 hours ago by fruitman

20 hours ago, Tagged said:

Im sorry, I do not follow you on this one. The front desk woman, had done nothing to get yelled at in such manner at all. She is busy taking care of things, for other customers, and he think he can just open up a show for himself on their cost. As well all of the 3 girls we have been in contact with, spoke decent english as well. 

 

On my behalf, I always bring my gf, or someone else who speak their language fluent, and do not believe it is their job to know, Chinese, English, Russian, French or Swedish. 

 

And a last thing, I never had a problem with any immigration office in Thailand, always been treated good, and they have been polite. Even at arrival in the airports, never a single bad work or any trouble from them at all. 

I've got to agree totally with Tagged on this one. We are guests in Thailand. Their country, their rules. Fine for us to B&C about the rules, but at the end of the day it's our duty to comply. The Immigration officers we deal with aren't the ones making the rules, but it is their job and duty to enforce the rules. They are not our enemies and we shouldn't treat them as such.

 

FWIW, being an American I've always said fellow Americans are my biggest embarrassment overseas.... I'm confident many nationalities feel the same about their compatriots.