COVID 19 Opinion Poll/Survey

[Skeptic7]

So what's your opinion of The Global Shutdown due to the Corona virus?

Feel free to leave comments. Voting is anonymous. 

[Mama Noodle]

My main fear right now is the economy both in the USA and globally with the exception of Chinas economy, which I hope crashes harder than the Hindenburg. 

[AtlasAus]

I am no expert in anything... But it seems the cure is going to be far worse than disease.... All this lock down is just a delay tactic.... We can't continue like this and a cure, if available will come too late for any of us..... Those of us lucky enough to still receive a pension etc will only be getting it for a limited time, no people working, no taxes, they can only print so much money...

[mauGR1]

I would have chosen the n.1, but for the choice of words.

Unfortunately, this is not BS, this is total madness.

[UbonThani]

Daft. If the kept the planes and boats out for 3 weeks no problem. Then quarantine. everyone else ok

[pgrahmm]

So many variables & so many different approaches.....I think TH is taking it about right so far....Songkran could have been a worldwide catalyst....

I find it suspicious that China's adversaries are the ones that seem to have been hit the hardest, almost as if targeted....

[DrTuner]

It's not the measures taken, it's what should be happening right now, during the lockdown: prepare mass testing, contact tracing, big data with apps, etc. Doesn't seem to be happening at all. The time bought with the economic crash is being wasted.

[DrTuner]

14 minutes ago, pgrahmm said:

I find it suspicious that China's adversaries are the ones that seem to have been hit the hardest, almost as if targeted....

They are first world economies with transparent testing and reporting (well at least in comparison with China). You're seeing more than from China's buddies because of better reporting and testing.

[brokenbone]

i dont know, it would take two identical worlds running in parallel,

with one taking this action and the other not,

and then compare the two 20 years later and see which one did best

[allanos]

I was tempted to vote for No. 1 but voted No. 2.  I feel some measures needed to be put in place, but most of the authorities around the world have gone overboard with their response.  Some of it is because of peer pressure, looking over their shoulders at what another country's leader is doing.

 

For my mind, herd immunity is the answer, whilst, at the same time, pouring resources into protecting the vulnerable as far as is possible.

More people are dying from influenza each day; I don't see an hysterical response to their ailments, anywhere!

[TommyBlue]

Way too much was implemented - they did not implement quickly enough, so they shut it all down. Govts are stupid. 

[kingstonkid]

The determining factor is not the shut down that was needed to get control because people are not inherently smart enough on their own to stay home.  The question is going to be how they implement the opening.  Hopefully countries do it a little at a time so that if there is an issue it can be resolved 

Keep the borders closed.

[Fairynuff]

Nobody knows how high the death toll would have been without lockdowns. But the countries that took the longest to react, UK, USA are not doing terribly well. To say that the cure is worse is ridiculous when the keep things running option could see the death toll in the millions.

[Fairynuff]

1 hour ago, allanos said:

More people are dying from influenza each day;

Comparing apples and oranges

[nervona81732]

The whole thing is BS. Global take over. Deaths = annual deaths all along. Get your heads out of your <deleted> and find out instead of buying into hysteria. THE WAS FREAKING engineered like all global events. Like the comedian George Carlin said " There's a big club and you and I ain't in it " Period. Wake up Sheeple.

[Mbaki]

20 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

My main fear right now is the economy both in the USA and globally with the exception of Chinas economy, which I hope crashes harder than the Hindenburg. 

My stocks look better with the USA crashing ????

[DrTuner]

4 minutes ago, nervona81732 said:

Deaths = annual deaths all along. 

Nah. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-indonesia-funerals/exclusive-jump-in-jakarta-funerals-raises-fears-of-unreported-coronavirus-deaths-idUSKBN21L2XU

[Fairynuff]

4 minutes ago, nervona81732 said:

The whole thing is BS. Global take over. Deaths = annual deaths all along. Get your heads out of your <deleted> and find out instead of buying into hysteria. THE WAS FREAKING engineered like all global events. Like the comedian George Carlin said " There's a big club and you and I ain't in it " Period. Wake up Sheeple.

Ya can’t beat a good old conspiracy theory 

[fred110]

Sweden didn't shut down, no disaster there.

[Brunolem]

1 hour ago, Fairynuff said:

To say that the cure is worse is ridiculous when the keep things running option could see the death toll in the millions.

This is pure speculation.

 

The facts are that the countries with the most stringent lock downs, Italy, Spain and France, are also the countries having the worst results...by far.

 

Governments have shown, one more time, their total incompetence in matters they shouldn't have gotten involved with in the first place.

 

Authority to deal with the pandemic should have been delegated to the medical profession, with the complete support of the state, but no interference.

 

Instead of that, we got presidents and prime ministers becoming virologists overnight, surrounded by the usual buzzards trying to turn the whole situation to their (financial) advantage.

 

A complete mess that will take years, maybe the whole decade, to clean...

[Nurseynutcase]

Well - the 'containment' measures don't seem to be working(not that I ever thought they would).

My personal view is that it is out in virtually all communities in the world and will wreak havoc on the very poor, malnourished and overcowded shanty towns.

 

Until a vaccine becomes available I don't think anything will improve - people will continue to die of this disease.  I feel it would be far better to resume our lives as before - yes more deaths may well occur but herd immunity will rapidly develop.  I have great empathy for those who have lost loved ones and for the deaths of future victims.

 

BTW I am 65 so if I get it there is a strong possibility I would be severely affected.

 

 China will never, ever accept responsibility for this fiasco they have wrought upon the world and it is up to all other governments to apply sanctions.

 

 

[DrTuner]

4 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

The facts are that the countries with the most stringent lock downs, Italy, Spain and France, are also the countries having the worst results...by far.

It's because they were late in response and had to do complete lockdowns because of it. The delay in response is still wreaking havoc, until the lockdown results in flattening of the curve. 

[DrTuner]

58 minutes ago, fred110 said:

Sweden didn't shut down, no disaster there.

One of the neighbouring border provinces in Finland is an outlier in the high number of infections. 

[scubascuba3]

Sweden and Japan has got this about right, other countries have killed their economies, businesses, jobs and lives. 

 

10s of millions now unemployed, more to come

[gamesgplayemail]

Right to lock the world for less deaths than road accidents ?!

 

 

[chessman]

55 minutes ago, fred110 said:

Sweden didn't shut down, no disaster there.

Sweden is most similar to it's neighbouring countries so they are the best comparison. Sweden has similar demographics  and a similar population to Norway and Finland combined but currently has 6 times more deaths. Their number of deaths is also increasing more quickly so we can expect this number to increase more.

[scubascuba3]

Just now, chessman said:

Sweden is most similar to it's neighbouring countries so they are the best comparison. Sweden has similar demographics  and a similar population to Norway and Finland combined but currently has 6 times more deaths. Their number of deaths is also increasing more quickly so we can expect this number to increase more.

Sweden will have more deaths, but it's still the best approach as will be seen when the full economic cost of other countries unfolds

[Fairynuff]

22 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

This is pure speculation.

 

The facts are that the countries with the most stringent lock downs, Italy, Spain and France, are also the countries having the worst results...by far.

 

Governments have shown, one more time, their total incompetence in matters they shouldn't have gotten involved with in the first place.

 

Authority to deal with the pandemic should have been delegated to the medical profession, with the complete support of the state, but no interference.

 

Instead of that, we got presidents and prime ministers becoming virologists overnight, surrounded by the usual buzzards trying to turn the whole situation to their (financial) advantage.

 

A complete mess that will take years, maybe the whole decade, to clean...

And you can prove categorically that things would be better without “the cure”? Show me. Of course you can’t because THAT TOO is speculation. 
I will however agree with you on the utter incompetence of many governments, particularly the US and the UK.

[chessman]

3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Sweden will have more deaths, but it's still the best approach as will be seen when the full economic cost of other countries unfolds

Try telling that to the families of the dead!

 

The Swedish economy will also take a huge hit. Maybe not as bad as some other countries but still pretty big. Firms are still going into administration there, record numbers of new people applying for benefits

[chessman]

17 minutes ago, gamesgplayemail said:

Right to lock the world for less deaths than road accidents ?!

This is an infectious disease that spreads and the number of infected and dead increase exponentially. What do you think governments would do if the number of road accidents was doubling every few days?