Police checkpoint harrasement

[kralledr]

I just got stoped by the cops, near a big temple sorry i forgot name, anyway he asked where i go, i said home, he asked where i said where, he then said i shall step out of the car, what i did, then he said i whant search you, and your car (i stoped a bit away from other people) i said NO if you search me it's in police station OR in front of other people that are not cops (there where 6 people a 20 meter from me) then he got angry and said show me your passport i showed him my wp and passport and visa on phone, he said no original only, i politely said that if any more issues we shall go to the station (i had my baby in my car so i wanted get home quick) he again saId no, and said my wife shall bring the passport (she has no dl anyway) at this point i said, to him : ok enough bye bye, i walked slowley to my car and drow off, his face qas pricless when i said that il go now..

 

There where 8~ cops, so if they wanted something they would have blocked my way..

 

Is this a new was to try escorting money?...

Edited April 19, 2020 by kralledr

[PerkinsCuthbert]

What's your point, you achieved a pyrrhic victory over a small-time traffic policeman, and want to crow about it?

[simon43]

Feel good now do you...?

[kralledr]

YOu got me qrong guys..

 

 

I just wonder if i did wrong or not?..

 

[kralledr]

3 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Feel good now do you...?

Yes i do because this idiot try this on someone who not know his rights..

 

Why he wanted search me behind other ppl?

 

To plant something in my pockets or car?

[Pilotman]

6 minutes ago, kralledr said:

YOu got me qrong guys..

 

 

I just wonder if i did wrong or not?..

 

it was a dangerous game to play with those morons, but you are right to stand up to being bullied.  Insisting on a visit to the Station is always a good tactic to employ.  The other is to have a dash cam, maybe even two, with sound. Keep the ignition on so that the camera (s) keep operating.  It's amazing what impact it has on bent cops when they know that they are being recorded. 

Edited April 19, 2020 by Pilotman

[lopburi3]

Not sure why you are not carrying your passport during current situation - it has been suggested and would seem prudent.

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Mar 26, 2020 - Thai police on Thursday said that people in Thailand should carry official identification with them in order to help with screening for COVID-19. Thai people are asked to carry their ID card, while foreigners should carry their passport.

 

[kralledr]

The passport is another story ok i did wrong, BUT the question is still why he refused to search my pockets in front of other ppl ^^...

[lee b]

there have been stories in the past where certain items have been planted in a car, and then money is demanded. I think you were correct to not let him search you, it sounds like he was after something.

[OneMoreFarang]

Over the last 20 years the police stopped me at last 100 times with my bike. And in at least 90% of the cases they wanted cash. There was always a reason like not driving on the left lane, my fg had no helmet, etc. Most of the time I give them 100B almost before they ask. It takes 5 minutes, problems solved.

I never carry my passport but I know officially I should do that. If they would ask me about it I would do exactly the same: offer them 100B or tell them come back with me and I will bring it out of my home. That would obviously be a waste of time for them. They want money.

[kralledr]

3 minutes ago, lee b said:

there have been stories in the past where certain items have been planted in a car, and then money is demanded. I think you were correct to not let him search you, it sounds like he was after something.

I know that is exactly why i refused a search if no whitnes or if not in station!

[mistral53]

Be happy you live in Thailand - in the US the cops stop you on the HWY and ask how much money you carry, if it is a tempting amount, they will take it from you and call it civil asset forfeiture. You then have to fight to get it back, which probably will cost more then the amount confiscated, so most people just hang their heads and be happy they live in the land of the free. It's a multi-billion dollar business for the cops.........

 

Thailand........mehh

[Moonlover]

Right now we all have the perfect answer to any policeman who wants to search us. It's called social distancing!

[CharlieH]

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[ukrules]

43 minutes ago, kralledr said:

YOu got me qrong guys..

 

 

I just wonder if i did wrong or not?..

 

You gave him too much leeway if you ask me.

 

Once he said no to going to the station then your business with this little moron is done.

 

[Lacessit]

33 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I never carry my passport but I know officially I should do that. If they would ask me about it I would do exactly the same: offer them 100B or tell them come back with me and I will bring it out of my home. That would obviously be a waste of time for them. They want money.

This furphy has been doing the rounds for how long?

You are NOT obliged to carry your passport, a Thai driver's licence, paper copy of the passport, or images of the passport are adequate ID. That has been stated by the most senior cop in Bangkok. They may want you to produce your passport at their police station, but it's more likely they won't push it.

I've been stopped a few times on my scooter, my Thai DL was all I needed. Only stopped once in the car, again Thai DL and I'm on my way. Ten years, never been asked for my passport.

The passport is an extremely valuable document, without it one is helpless. The only officials here that get their hands on mine are Immigration.

[daveAustin]

Fair play, op, that's quite ballsy to a guy with a gun. You could have just used the old social distancing excuse and (politely) refused. However way you play it, even if you know the cop is bent, do it firmly but politely.

[garrya]

I am actually surprised that a Thai policeman would go this far. 

Never been stopped and never been searched even though I have been seen by thousands of  times.

But regardless, I see no reason to resist. If they want to search you then let them do it.

Do this in the USA or UK and you get arrested brutally in a matter of moments. 

 

[Puchaiyank]

Thai cops just want to have fun!

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

This furphy has been doing the rounds for how long?

You are NOT obliged to carry your passport, a Thai driver's licence, paper copy of the passport, or images of the passport are adequate ID. That has been stated by the most senior cop in Bangkok. They may want you to produce your passport at their police station, but it's more likely they won't push it.

I've been stopped a few times on my scooter, my Thai DL was all I needed. Only stopped once in the car, again Thai DL and I'm on my way. Ten years, never been asked for my passport.

The passport is an extremely valuable document, without it one is helpless. The only officials here that get their hands on mine are Immigration.

The traffic police also never asked me to see my passport. My Thai driver license is good enough.

But I remember a couple of years ago some foreigners in a nightclub got into trouble for not carrying their passport.

I don't know what the law is but I know it does not make sense to argue with Thai cops about the law.

 

Personally I live in the same place since 20 years and I am pretty sure there are enough cops here who remember me and know that I am here forever. They don't give me a hard time.

[OneMoreFarang]

1 minute ago, Puchaiyank said:

Thai cops just want to have fun!

And fun is a lot funnier with a pocket full of money. ???? 

[Solinvictus]

3 hours ago, PerkinsCuthbert said:

What's your point, you achieved a pyrrhic victory over a small-time traffic policeman, and want to crow about it?

Do you think half of the wide-eyed foreigners here would have the same balls? Nah...555

 

Thanks for posting the experience!

[2 is 1]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

This furphy has been doing the rounds for how long?

You are NOT obliged to carry your passport, a Thai driver's licence, paper copy of the passport, or images of the passport are adequate ID. That has been stated by the most senior cop in Bangkok. They may want you to produce your passport at their police station, but it's more likely they won't push it.

I've been stopped a few times on my scooter, my Thai DL was all I needed. Only stopped once in the car, again Thai DL and I'm on my way. Ten years, never been asked for my passport.

The passport is an extremely valuable document, without it one is helpless. The only officials here that get their hands on mine are Immigration.

Agree for that! I never carry passport whit me but i have take photo to my cellphone . Include pic from first page and pic from visa.  And normaly cellphone always whit me. 

Edited April 19, 2020 by 2 is 1

[sucit]

I can't believe someone would post this publicly. Even more bizarre is you seem to be proud of it. Seems the Thai showed great restraint. You, on the other hand, acted like a --------- all while your child was in the car.

[torturedsole]

Victimhood can be a completely pleasant destination for some.  

[Eindhoven]

2 hours ago, sucit said:

I can't believe someone would post this publicly. Even more bizarre is you seem to be proud of it. Seems the Thai showed great restraint. You, on the other hand, acted like a --------- all while your child was in the car.

 

I was thinking the same about your post. He posted about his experience. You've just posted.... your opinion.

You think your post is more worthy than his?

[Eindhoven]

I also had a policeman try it on with me in Hua Hin. It didn't work out for them. I have bigger friends. I also saw them sharing the proceeds of when it did work out for them, in their police box. 

 

[lust]

5 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

Not sure why you are not carrying your passport during current situation - it has been suggested and would seem prudent.

 

Only fools and betas carry their passport on their person.

[liddelljohn]

My Girlfriend was stopped at Wat Boon / Sukumvit  intersection at 6am this morning whilst delivering her farms  twice weekly fresh Vegetables to the Malaor market in soi Wat Boon ,, the market is open the traders need her produce , 8,000 bahts worth.

 

she has cut her deliveries from 4 times a week to twice a week over last 4 weeks   but seems  now the farms are not allowed to sell any in Pattaya ???

 

The idiot cops would not let her through other delivery drivers with fresh produce also getting turned back , they let he through last Wednesday ???

now the market traders are moaning they are short of stock ,, she did manage to flog most of it to another market at Ban Chang ,,

 

but the Cops are being a bit OTT ,, food deliveries are essential

[yuyiinthesky]

6 hours ago, kralledr said:

Is this a new was to try escorting money?...

This is not a new way to extort money.

 

I saw quite often that Thais did not let a policeman search their car without carefully watching, and demanding to see the hands of the policeman, not only before the search, but all the time during the search.

 

And these were educated Thais, even government employees, they knew very well why they had to be careful.

 

From what you report here you had been doing the right thing, absolutely. 

 

The ones which tell you otherwise will change their minds quickly, after they get accused of having drugs in their car, and offered to get away if they cough up a nice amount of cash. This has been happening and it is happening, and the Thais know it. 

I'm afraid that with the economic crisis developing now it will happen more often.

 

Also no original passport, keep that in the safe, a picture and better a paper copy, preferably in color, is enough - but carry your DL.