20 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

Tourism will be last economic sector to return....

 

next story....

I was thinking something similar, even in the best case, i may take a long time.

Perhaps it could be convenient for Thailand to study a plan for really affordable insurance for foreign visitors, which covers everything, and one can pay by the month or by the year.

Nothing like starting a holiday in 14d quarantine.

 

Try again in 2021.

Where can you purchase this 100,000 Chinese Flu insurance

i can’t see how tourists wanting to come here will buy insurance and get medical certification.  Is this feasible 

2 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

WELL it is quite simple.

all that has to be done is to lift the health papers requirement, to waive

the 14 days quarantine, and of course do not forget to open the airport.

once all those three are done you will be surprised to see how many tourists

will come back and how fast, as most people understand that this

corona panick is a total non sense.

but until this will happan, forget about tourists, no one in his sane 

mind will fly 14 hours and stay 14 days in forced quarantine just to have 

a three weeks foot massage holiday.

Yeh it's complete nonsense!

What on earth are you talking about?

As soon as you have to be ventilated your survival rate is 5 to 15% 

What it does to your lungs at that stage is frightening

 

What is the more expensive than a lockdown?

A reopening with absolutely zero tourists

You suddenly have to pay wages, electric and stock etc

Might as well forget about it for 6 months at least

I'm sure the govt will give a helping hand!!

2 hours ago, Grumpy John said:

Every kayakers dream!  Paddle up to an isle where there awaits a sexy young hotty waiting with coconut oil so you and her can lubricate your bodies before sitting down to a great lunch....and some champers chilling to wash down the microwaved 7/11 sandwiches from the 7/11 off camera.

And then I woke up. Bill in the OP is in as much of a dreamland as that photo represents, although he could be angling for a job with TAT as he should fit right in. The problem here is that it's not just one industry that's been hit, it's everything. There will have to be a cycle of recovery from the basics to the luxury and each thing will take it's turn ... and I'm sorry to say, that foreign travel/tourism and frivolous expenditure will be at the back of the Q for most, especially with the insurance and other strict requirements to cross borders that will be around for a while. I also agree that there are many that have yet to appreciate the extent of the damage done by all of this.

SO MUCH NEGATIVITY!!! ????

Although valid points have been made, there is just too much negativity and pessimism here.

Yes, the government need to actually allow flights to land and tourists to enter without jumping through hoops. This is just stating the obvious.

I think that the original post is saying that when things brighten up, the tourism industry needs to welcome back everyone with open arms, and honest, warm smiles. But, as usual, the TVF regulars like to copy each other with Doomsday predictions and digs at each other and the establishment.

Opening the borders should be the ultimate last thing, first we need to stabilise the country within which means all the Thai's currently outside of Thailand but wishing to come home have been repatriated and the CV-19 figures have stabilised once clear of any quarantine requirements and definitely not before...!!!

Many western countries will have bans on their citizens travelling to certain countries....Australia for example, may not see international travel for maybe 12 months.

Tourists to Thailand will more than likely start from China....

1 hour ago, Oziex1 said:

Ahh, the ever optimistic Thai tourism machine.

No, Bill Barnet.

 

A lazy “reporter” who make many mistake before (eg. his Phangnga airport report, wrong information, wrong budget, wrong year, wrong name, wrong location on the map). We laughing about that one.

 

can not speak Thai, confused a lot. 

 

I not think the successful, rich, hotel owners will NOT listen to Bill.

 

 

The reputation of Thailand was tanked by the treatment of the last tourist by immigration.  They were put through hell.

2 hours ago, AlexRich said:

Return as superheroes? Mmm ... if I show up at the hotel and the manager’s wearing red underpants over his trousers I’d probably cancel the booking.

 

Tourism will take a considerable amount of time to pick up. Social distancing on flights will mean significantly higher fares. The economic impact has yet to show its face, but when it does it will be ugly and depressing, and few will be willing to spend money on travel anytime soon.

 

I think the world economy is in for a much tougher time than most people think.

Unfortunately I think you’re right

I perused the first page of comments and but one were right on.  No, people are not going to flock back and the one comment about this pandemic being 'nonsense' comes from a poster that is as ill-informed and nonsense as his posting and the totality of excrement one finds in marshaling yards for cattle.  Total Krapola, that poster and the boob who wrote the article.

 

The article quotes Singapore.  Don't even go there.  So blind this writer of article seeing what is happening there, presently. And as it happens in Singapore then all should fasten their seat belts, here .. Singapore once flat now bracing for pandemic .. a 700 case 10% surge overnight .. and the warning being reported just within past hour is because it was closed up it will not recover now, until there is a vaccine.  They insulated themselves and now because of that they are readying for an onslaught.  Exact description from reportage.

 

 

2 hours ago, mr mr said:

that photo of an empty beach with beautiful water is something i am really looking forward to while living here in the coming months to years. 

 

 

That photo is a joke. Where would you find a location like that, certainly not in Thailand.

13 minutes ago, warvet1970 said:

Singapore once flat now bracing for pandemic .. a 700 case 10% surge overnight .. and the warning being reported just within past hour is because it was closed up it will not recover now, until there is a vaccine.  They insulated themselves and now because of that they are readying for an onslaught.  Exact description from reportage.

 

I think you need to check some facts before making silly claims...

Singapore was managing very well and still are. The spike in cases is within foreign worker dormitories, which have been isolated since the first clusters appeared there. 

Cases around Singapore have remained relatively consistent, 50-100 per day, tested, isolated and contact tracing done.

We can still go out to exercise, shop etc so there really is no panic here. 

 

From yesterday.. Straits times quote..

 

"Of the 596 new cases, 544 were work permit holders residing in dormitories. Only 25 are Singaporeans or permanent residents. There were no imported cases."

 

 

The lack of tourists in Thailand will drag on for at least 12 months IMO, probably longer. People won't have money to travel and even if they do they won't want to risk getting sick in a developing country (especially with insurance companies excluding cover for CV19) or getting stuck there due to a second wave of the virus causing airports to close, quarantine measures etc. Plus, the Junta making up rules on the fly such as 3 week long alcohol bans does not inspire much faith in tourists who are looking for a relaxing holiday.

 

An awful lot of bars, restaurants, hotels etc. were just about surviving before CV19. This will finish them off. The workers will be laid off and unemployment will be rife.

 

I honestly believe Thailand is about to find out the real value of tourism. You don't appreciate something until it's gone.

 

 

 

There are at least a few subsets of committed travelers that will help lead the charge back. 

One is the sex addicts.  They are no less likely to avoid travel because they might get Covid-19 than crackheads are to quit freebasing because they might accidentally light themselves on fire.

 

Another group are the ones that accepted travel vouchers for cancelled flights.  Some fraction of them will travel including those doing it against their better judgement because they've already got skin in the game.  

2 hours ago, AlexRich said:

Return as superheroes? Mmm ... if I show up at the hotel and the manager’s wearing red underpants over his trousers I’d probably cancel the booking.

 

Tourism will take a considerable amount of time to pick up. Social distancing on flights will mean significantly higher fares. The economic impact has yet to show its face, but when it does it will be ugly and depressing, and few will be willing to spend money on travel anytime soon.

 

I think the world economy is in for a much tougher time than most people think.

Pattaya will take a very big hit.Mainly lower to working class go there, a sort of Asian Benidorm. The Posh Places never suffer very long.

I have four friends who come here at least 2/3 times a year ,they have no plans to travel ,now if people like them wont come ,i cannot for the life of me see people coming for a family holiday , even i will not be going back to the UK until at least next year,

2 hours ago, luckyluke said:

Pretty sure there are a lot like yourself. 

The problem is however, once you, and the others, found it, it won't look like that anymore. 

Thailand's coast has the length of Sweden's coast. And only a tiny part of that is touristic. Personally, would never live in Thailand, if it would not have tropical beaches, rainforests and tropical seas. But it has. And that and all the other goodies makes Thailand perfect.

 

Living next to a beach in Thailand and you almost do not realise  a lockdown and all that.

3 hours ago, baansgr said:

If they think anyone will want to holiday if they have to wear a mask on the beach and sit at different tables when they are out dining...better think again. Until there's a cure..nobody is travelling nowhere..that's worldwide, not just Thailand

100% correct

 

that article is delusional nonsense - read the first 2 paragraphs and stopped

 

dirty smelly farangs will be stinking out their home countries for at least 12 months 

 

Maybe by then Anutin will be the tourism minister and will have installed smelly detectors at all the airports to filter out the unclean and make them shower before leaving

2 hours ago, AlexRich said:

I think the world economy is in for a much tougher time than most people think.

it seems Thailand hasn't realised yet

You don't have to be out of Jupiter's thigh to understand that after Covid will never be the same as before .
The number of airlines that will still exist in a few months will be drastically lower than before.
Ticket prices will explode.
The entire world economy is in recession and Thailand, which is part of this land, will not escape it.
One might think that domestic tourism will partly compensate for what foreigners will not bring.
but it is illusory, the millions of thai who started to travel in their own country are already in debt higher than their neck and many will not find work.

Back to business, yes but for few people; in all industrialized countries unemployment is exploding and will remain in this state for many months if not years.
It is good to want to restart the economy, to re-open the factories, but if there is no one to buy the manufactured products it will be useless.

2 hours ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

There is the problem.. Whilst most other countries try to just drop down to 2nd, maybe 1st gear and keep the economy ticking over, Thailand turned off the engine and went for a nap in the hammock.... The engine might be seized ?? 

sort of correct

 

what they haven't done is support the tourist facing businesses when they forced them to shut - other countries saw the value in this - Thailand dropped the ball or quite simply couldn't afford it - no money

 

either way IMO Thailand is well and truly (deleted) whether they realise it or not

2 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

There are millions of testosterone driven males around the world who will still want to come here for sex. 

They're all going to look like tennis players by the time this is all over ????

1 hour ago, 2long said:

Although valid points have been made, there is just too much negativity and pessimism here.

it's called reality which Thailand isn't quite seeing right now

So now the entire INFECTED population will look at a map and say, "wow, reported low cases....let's go there!!!"

 

everyone needs to be tested before or off the plane, period.

 

soon it should take 5 minutes.  well, ok maybe 30.  

The first thing that will have to stop is Shared Dorm type rooms and bathrooms at Hostels.  This may be a good thing because the number of “Backpackers” might be reduced.  

 

Also, Gyms will have to be more open and reduce the number of people who allowed in at one time.  I keep hearing the phrase “50%” occupancy as the New Normal.  

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Yinn said:

No, Bill Barnet.

 

A lazy “reporter” who make many mistake before (eg. his Phangnga airport report, wrong information, wrong budget, wrong year, wrong name, wrong location on the map). We laughing about that one.

 

can not speak Thai, confused a lot. 

 

I not think the successful, rich, hotel owners will NOT listen to Bill.

 

 

so Yin, what is your perspective on this - be interesting to hear your opinion on Thailands next 12 months - what you think will happen 

 

yes- I am giving you the opportunity to compose your own thoughts on the topic rather than being critical of others

 

So as a Thai give us your thoughts on the next 12 months - 

The next 12 month will be very difficult to predict ... we first have to see how the phase out of restrictions works out. 

 

We can discuss 24 hours and 15 minutes about it ... at the moment, we can be blessed the hospitals are not run over and no dead ppl stack up ... as in other countries. 

 

Whatever it is, which is different in Thailand. 

 

Wait and see ... the only thing to do. I'm prepared to move on, without lockdowns, keeping the same pre-caution habits. 

It seems to work here.