8 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

From our standarts most of the village people were already poor before this

they are used to it. And it's not true someone has nothing to eat in a village

it's just impossible, family and neighbour soliarity chain is functionning plus the

local temple give free food, and even the puyaban can help in some situations.

Not to mention the free food available all around in the fields and the forests

and the rivers if you are not lazy.

For me it sounds more like the girls try to have some easy money from you 

Agreed . Most homes got a stash of rice , containing several bags ( big bags ) of rice . Dried fish is another item which is always available , caught in the local khlong , by themselves or family member . Many homes got chickens , ready to eat when needed . Vegetabels and fruit is all around ready to pick . When i am in Thailand i stay in village for 90% of the time , and i can tell you that nobody going to starve from hunger over there . Some people might be very poor , having nothing , but they would not die from hunger . And then indeed the temples are always there as the last resort , where you can have shelter .

For me this is clear , she wants you to send a bit of money , which is all up to you to do that or not .

15 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

They are getting desperate for money plus they get bored of Isaan

555 - they don't get bored of Isaan, they are worried that if they stay there too long they will have to actually get a real job as opposed to the good life in Pattaya being paid to party and have endless fun making loads of dosh and generally being lazy

31 minutes ago, smedly said:

your GF is there for everything but the money - try stopping it and see how that goes lol

Same for every relationship with a woman, in every country in the world.

How many women have you ever encountered that dated homeless men, or a man living with his parents?

39 minutes ago, smedly said:

so you don't fall into the cigar smoking fat farang category - believe me the list is much bigger but of course you are special lol keep believing my friend - your GF is there for everything but the money - try stopping it and see how that goes lol

I believe he said "GF's" not "GF" which to me means, he has had several "transactions" with different girls. Rent don't buy has always been a sensible approach in Thailand.

 

 

 

13 minutes ago, Grumpy John said:

What has become of the hot little sweeties???

They are freelancing on apps. 

35 minutes ago, Leaver said:

They are freelancing on apps. 

Before the Corona crisis they were also gogo's stars

or regulars in the discos, 

a lot of them having some nice guys from abroad sending

a lot of money every month, just to be sure they will be available

for them when they'll come here on holiday.

So there were still a lot of young sweetties hotties here, but overpriced and overbooked

20 years ago, they were in the beer bar and at the average price, internet and the young

foreign blokes coming here on holidays for the 2 weeks millionnnaires have changed the rules

2 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

Before the Corona crisis they were also gogo's stars

or regulars in the discos, 

a lot of them having some nice guys from abroad sending

a lot of money every month, just to be sure they will be available

for them when they'll come here on holiday.

So there were still a lot of young sweetties hotties here, but overpriced and overbooked

20 years ago, they were in the beer bar and at the average price, internet and the young

foreign blokes coming here on holidays for the 2 weeks millionnnaires have changed the rules

The good looking smart girls realized they could be their own boss, and make more money, then showing up to a place where little to no western tourists were prepared to pay the prices for their own drinks, let alone a lady drink, and rarely a bar fine. 

 

They got on the apps and worked off them and did well, and then told their friends.

 

The days of bar fines and lady drinks are coming to an end. 

Pattaya is gross anyway. Not to toot my own horn, I’m a younger guy, and I get accosted by the bar girls and ladyboys cat calling me and beckoning to me, when I’m walking down the street. Some have even got physical with me, unsolicited, grabbing my arm and trying to pull me into the bar. Although I figure this has more to do with wanting to make money and rope in customers than anything else.

The roads are really narrow where I stayed, with my Dad who visits a few times a year, got a hotel on Soi Buakhao, so you can’t help but walk mere feet away from all the girls and LBs when you’re on the street, as usually that’s the side of the street that’s safer to walk on. All I’m trying to do is get a god damn bite to eat from Soi Buakhao. (Really good brick oven pizza place there) and I’m getting accosted and pulled into the bars. It’s nice to get that kind of attention at first, but it gets tiresome as hell after a while, and you just want to go about your business unmolested. One of these girls actually ordered a drink for herself assuming that I would be coming in to pay for it and sit down with her. The fleecing of farrangs, and the nerve of these girls knows no bounds.

 

 

 

I live in Bangkok far away from these girly bars and that’s the way I like it. I would never live in Pattaya. I have a lovely Thai girlfriend already and I can’t imagine visiting Pattaya as a man if you’re not trying to get a bar girl or freelancer. It’s a crowded, loud, narrow place from my experience, I just don’t like it very much so I won’t shed any tears if it goes under, whatever that means. Maybe it was different in the golden days of the 80s and 90s, but I was just a little kid in elementary school in the 90s.

 

 The only positive is the immigration office is super chill in Jomtien compared to Bangkok’s, and the beach can be a nice change of scenery from all the modern skyscrapers and hustle and bustle of Bangkok. Other than that, no reason to go there if you have a partner already, it just seems like a party town for bachelors and divorcées to get liquored up and go nuts. Just not my cup of tea at all. ????????‍♂️

8 hours ago, sezze said:

the temples are always there as the last resort , where you can have shelter .

 

I don't see any homeless people in temples, maybe they don't feel welcome. On that subject are temples giving back food now? I don't see that in Pattaya or hear about it on the news

7 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

 

They got on the apps and worked off them and did well, and then told their friends.

 

 

It's surprising but many girls don't know about thaifriendly, i tell them and help them set it up so they don't keep messaging me

2 hours ago, El Chapo said:

Why bother slogging your guts out serving drinks all night for pittance if your good looking, no need to bother nowadays.

Yet everywhere I went (pre-COVID) there were beer girls and 'Pretties'.

20 hours ago, elgenon said:

How will girls without an education and with a baby and/or parents to support make enough money?

The same way as the vast majority of girls in their situation do. You didn't think ALL the girls with a baby end up in a Pattaya barbeer, did you?

19 hours ago, elgenon said:

I think that after this most village people will be very poor. I've gotten several messages that the girls don't have any food to eat. This is in their village home.

I don't really believe that. Possibly hoping for a handout.

I've lived in a village and they grow food all over the place, even the road verges.

 

If they really didn't have any food they'd be dead, not contacting farangs.

 

Yes, they will be poor. For a brief spell they were doing OK and many improved their houses, bought computers, tvs etc. Hopefully they kept some money and didn't spend it all on booze and parties.

13 hours ago, Leaver said:

Is it really "showing signs of ending?"  if so, for who, when, and where?

It ends like all infectious diseases when herd immunity is reached.

18 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The same way as the vast majority of girls in their situation do. You didn't think ALL the girls with a baby end up in a Pattaya barbeer, did you?

I kinda thought the majority of them did end up in a bar-beer (or GGB or MP etc.) Pattaya impressions eh!

9 hours ago, Grumpy John said:

When I first holidayed in Pattaya what got me was the number of hot little sweeties there was to choose from.  That was still true when I retired and moved to Pattaya.  After 4 years I noticed a change,  there seemed to be a growing number of buck-some lassies who didn't have the look necessary to excite anyone...except maybe a blind drunk punter!  Watched a video a month back and it was taken late 2019 and the buck-some lassies seem to have multiplied!  What has become of the hot little sweeties???

Made enough to retire ( few of them want to make a lifetime career of it ), got married, just had enough of it and went home, moved to Bkk to get the big money, went on line.

Just now, jacko45k said:

I kinda thought the majority of them did end up in a bar-beer (or GGB or MP etc.) Pattaya impressions eh!

Yeah. Urban legend says millions of Thai girls in the trade, LOL. There are approximately 35 million females in LOS, and a few thousand work in the farang scene, lots more in the Thai scene, but nothing like farangs think.

9 hours ago, Leaver said:

I believe he said "GF's" not "GF" which to me means, he has had several "transactions" with different girls. Rent don't buy has always been a sensible approach in Thailand.

 

 

 

Thanks.

Over the many years I visited LOS I had a number of long term GFs, but every time I left I rarely saw the same one still around when I went back. Exceptions were one for 4 years and one for 8 years. The first got grouchy and the second married someone.

I was never into a new one every night.

Renting is absolutely the right way to go though. A few thought that because they'd been with me more than one night they ruled the roost, but were looking for a new ATM pretty quick.

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Wait a few years till you ain't as young and good looking, and you'll wish they were still "molesting" you.

 

The young man has a girlfriend, perhaps he'll get married have a family and won't be in that situation. 

21 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Yeah. Urban legend says millions of Thai girls in the trade, LOL. There are approximately 35 million females in LOS, and a few thousand work in the farang scene, lots more in the Thai scene, but nothing like farangs think.

Urban legend, a few thousand work in the Farang-scene? Of the 35 million females in the country about 1/3 are between 18 and 44 years old. So with counting those in this age range who work in the structured night life venues, discos, freelancers, wild cards, onliners, professional girlfriends. A million or two is not hard to imagine. And that's including crossovers from the domestic side.

34 minutes ago, Ron jeremy said:

The young man has a girlfriend, perhaps he'll get married have a family and won't be in that situation. 

And they,'ll live happily ever after.

15 hours ago, Leaver said:

Is it really "showing signs of ending?"  if so, for who, when, and where?

 

Thailand can open up tomorrow, but many tourists are locked inside their own country, and for those that can get out, many will have to undergo forced quarantine for 2 weeks upon their return.  Something that will change their decision to holiday abroad, I am sure.

 

There's also the issue of little to no flights availability.

 

Then, you have affordability issues for many that would normally be holidaying here. 

 

Showing signs of ending.  I don't think so. 

A lot of people think when ( if?) This virus ends things will quickly go back to normal,nothing could be further from the truth,there will be massive loss of jobs and depression,the cheap flights will be a thing of the past,and it will take years for people's fear of travelling to stop.

On 4/21/2020 at 6:50 PM, Ron jeremy said:

Gogos were at their best??????????

please explain, with the exception of several of the 80-90 the rest have been desolate at best.High barfines and rising costs for the gals, combined with dozens of closures in the last few years. Quality is has never been that poor( exception of several)

have you ever been to pattaya scuba???????

with comments like that I'm starting to wonder. 

RIP the Carousel.  And yes the bar fines are out of control. 

The 1 or 2 million I'm referring to is for the whole country, and includes all the various venues in my post, not just the beer bars in Pattaya. 

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Yeah. Urban legend says millions of Thai girls in the trade, LOL. There are approximately 35 million females in LOS, and a few thousand work in the farang scene, lots more in the Thai scene, but nothing like farangs think.

According to Google, apparently up to 300,000 female sex workers in Thailand

5 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

According to Google, apparently up to 300,000 female sex workers in Thailand

So with at least 12 million females in Thailand between 18 and 44 years old then that would be one of the various types of sex worker out of forty in that age group. I don't know about that. 

4 hours ago, HandsomeTallFarang said:

Pattaya is gross anyway. Not to toot my own horn, I’m a younger guy, and I get accosted by the bar girls and ladyboys cat calling me and beckoning to me, when I’m walking down the street. Some have even got physical with me, unsolicited, grabbing my arm and trying to pull me into the bar. Although I figure this has more to do with wanting to make money and rope in customers than anything else.

The roads are really narrow where I stayed, with my Dad who visits a few times a year, got a hotel on Soi Buakhao, so you can’t help but walk mere feet away from all the girls and LBs when you’re on the street, as usually that’s the side of the street that’s safer to walk on. All I’m trying to do is get a god damn bite to eat from Soi Buakhao. (Really good brick oven pizza place there) and I’m getting accosted and pulled into the bars. It’s nice to get that kind of attention at first, but it gets tiresome as hell after a while, and you just want to go about your business unmolested. One of these girls actually ordered a drink for herself assuming that I would be coming in to pay for it and sit down with her. The fleecing of farrangs, and the nerve of these girls knows no bounds.

 

 

 

I live in Bangkok far away from these girly bars and that’s the way I like it. I would never live in Pattaya. I have a lovely Thai girlfriend already and I can’t imagine visiting Pattaya as a man if you’re not trying to get a bar girl or freelancer. It’s a crowded, loud, narrow place from my experience, I just don’t like it very much so I won’t shed any tears if it goes under, whatever that means. Maybe it was different in the golden days of the 80s and 90s, but I was just a little kid in elementary school in the 90s.

 

 The only positive is the immigration office is super chill in Jomtien compared to Bangkok’s, and the beach can be a nice change of scenery from all the modern skyscrapers and hustle and bustle of Bangkok. Other than that, no reason to go there if you have a partner already, it just seems like a party town for bachelors and divorcées to get liquored up and go nuts. Just not my cup of tea at all. ????????‍♂️

     When I visit Bangkok I don't stay or spend my time at the bar areas.  Next time you visit Pattaya try staying somewhere away from the bar areas since that is not your interest, either.  I live in Pattaya year-round and I never go to Walking Street, Soi Buakhao, or Soi 6.  Lots of nice places where you would have a nice visit in Wong Amat by the beach or perhaps south Jomtien. 

     The beach area of Wong Amat reminds me a lot of a beach town in America.  Lots of couples, young families, and some multi-generation families vacationing.  People carrying beach mats and coolers to the beach, baby strollers.  Young kids walking by themselves to the 7-11 to get ice cream--it's a safe area.  Seafood restaurants where you can have a meal right by the beach.  If you want a change of scenery Terminal 21 is a short drive away for some shopping, a movie, or a variety of restaurants. 

Multiple posts discussing the specifics of prostitution also replies have been removed.

 

Keep this up and the topic will be closed

... and think widely also the islands attributed to Pattaya

- the lost revenues from the possibly never to return - passenger liners docking at exorbitant inflated priced fees!

22 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

From our standarts most of the village people were already poor before this

they are used to it. And it's not true someone has nothing to eat in a village

it's just impossible, family and neighbour soliarity chain is functionning plus the

local temple give free food, and even the puyaban can help in some situations.

Not to mention the free food available all around in the fields and the forests

and the rivers if you are not lazy.

For me it sounds more like the girls try to have some easy money from you 

I hope you are right. Thanks.