Excellent progress with Covid 19 

In a couple of days, We went from "Don't go out or we all are going to die" to "let's all go out and riot to save lives"  

21 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

The cops were thugs that's why. He was pushed and he fell backwards hitting his head on the pavement, nice way to deal with a 75 year old man, not!

 

At the end of the Downing Street protest yesterday when it calmed down, our riot police asked the crowd to "keep moving please", you note the word please, not push people over first.

Excuse me sir, I would really appreciate it if you didn't burn any more buildings. Please don't shoot or stab any more policemen. Apparently that's how a good policeman keeps law and order.

 

kum bahyah America..... 

Just now, EVENKEEL said:

Excuse me sir, I would really appreciate it if you didn't burn any more buildings. Please don't shoot or stab any more policemen. Apparently that's how a good policeman keeps law and order.

 

kum bahyah America..... 

OK, lets do a deal. 

 

In return the Police stop committing murder. 

1 hour ago, transam said:

We have an expert on policing................????

Well we have more than a few well versed in racism.

These riots will only make things worst not better. because now, many good people would be apprehensive to join the police department in fear of making a mistake or being in the wrong place at the wrong time . I know i would nor want to be a cop assigned to any of these neighborhoods. Insanity!!

2 hours ago, mr mr said:

great suggestion and a very small step. thanks for the reply.

Ending ‘Qualified Immunity’ would not be a ‘small step’, it would open the Police and other Government agency to criminal and civil prosecution for infringement of Constitutional rights and protections.

 

The financial impact on Police Departments of bad cops would put an end to Police Departments allowing bad cops to remain in service.

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The financial impact on Police Departments of bad cops would put an end to Police Departments allowing bad cops to remain in service.

suuuuure it would.

Protests at US embassy in London today.

 

 

1 hour ago, utalkin2me said:

Facts

 

1. Floyd was actually a scumbag. Murals of him should not be up anywhere. He should not be admired in the slightest. He robbed a pregnant woman at gunpoint. Total cokehead. 

 

2. The officer who killed him is taking about one million times too much heat. Should his life be over? Of course. Lock him away and throw away the key. But there are decades of police brutality tensions being directed at one man. 

Fact

1. its gone beyond that

Off topic posts, troll posts and the replies have been removed.

 

Posts with videos from unapproved sources have been removed. 

These protests are morphing into anti establishment and anti government demos under the BLM/Floyd guise. Must be 50k around US embassy today and marching to Big Ben next. They look like a typical festival crowd today, well there is nothing else to do all summer.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Well we have more than a few well versed in racism.

Dwarfed by the number fluent in virtue signalling.

7 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Dwarfed by the number fluent in virtue signalling.

And what do you suppose you are ‘signalling’?

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

And what do you suppose you are ‘signalling’?

That you're at it.....again 

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And what do you suppose you are ‘signalling’?

Tbh if the pubs and clubs were open, festivals going ahead then the UK protests would be sparse. Covid-19 restrictions of places being closed means they are lots unders 30s with nothing to do. These protests will grow in the UK.

 

 

12 hours ago, bert bloggs said:

If they matter so much ,why do far more of them constantly kill each other?

Shhhhh.  How dare you make factual statements.  Outrageous!

Just seen your mate Mark Francois at the protests lol @evadgib
 

 

2 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Just seen your mate Mark Francois at the protests lol @evadgib

I'll be interested to hear his reasoning if correct.

6 hours ago, bodga said:

Nope  its  about "Black  lives  matter',  in the title

Try your best to deflect, same BS as Trump did with his statement that the kneeling was about disrespecting the flag.

Most people don't buy this racist <deleted> anymore.

5 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I'll be interested to hear his reasoning if correct.

Just joking 555

A historic statue from the 18th Century has been felled & thrown into the harbour in Bristol by these louts today; Maggie would never have stood for that! UK needs a route and branch approach towards tackling these idiots. A good place to start would be to re-introduce corporal punishment to schools and magistrates courts, and some sort of mandatory (national?) service in adulthood.

 

If anyone has a better suggestion i'm all ????????'s

16 hours ago, bert bloggs said:

If they matter so much ,why do far more of them constantly kill each other?

This. Approximately 80% of Black men killed in the US, are killed by other Black men.

 

It's just further proof, of how dumb and ignorant society is. Instead of bothering to fact check, they gobble up the race-hate fueling <deleted>, peddled by an ever increasing number of "liberal" (I use " " because classical liberalism is almost dead, and really I mean left/far left) media outlets.

 

Blacks males in the US commit more than 50% of violent crimes, even though Blacks (as a whole, so not just males) are only like 15% or so (too lazy to google, but it's around that) of the total population. Yet far more Whites (unarmed also, yes) are shot by cops. White cops, Black cops, etc. Who is "protesting" (rioting) for them?

 

There is no conspiracy, or racist police force killing "unarmed" Blacks. And I especially hate the non Americans, who constantly run their mouths about how often US police uses firearms. Your own country 9 out of 10 times doesn't compare. For example, it rarely - if ever - happens in Germany, the UK, etc., that when a cop does something as banal & mundane as a traffic stop, someone pulls out a gun and shoots him dead (because he happens to have an arrest warrant out for multiple felonies and/or a few ounces of cocaine in the car, or whatever reason). It doesn't happen all that much, that the cop is actually knocked down, and then the guy gets on top of him and starts punching his face in. Even if said assailant isn't reaching for the gun while doing that, the cop has no way of knowing if a) the guy will beat him to death once he's incapaticated, or not; b) if the guy will then steal his gun, and c) use it to kill him, and/or maybe someone else with it.

 

The law for self defence and third person defence is almost the same pretty much everywhere in the Western World (with minor variations). If there is a PERCEIVED (and that is the important bit) threat to your life, health/bodily well being, or that of others, you are entitled to defend yourself. Meaning in a fist-fight type situation, you do not actually have to wait for the other guy to punch you, before you can knock him out/incapacitate him. It is enough, that you can reasonably except and thus PERCEIVE a threat, ie. him squaring up + balling his fists, while moving toward you and even verbally threatening that he's gonna hit you. By extension the same goes for the use of lethal force. If you perceive a threat to your life, you do NOT have to wait for it to manifest, you can shoot (or whatever) first. As a cop, that goes even more.

 

So please, people. Do some research. Don't believe everything the media tells you, about these supposed innocent angels (with an arm long list of felonies on their record, usually), unarmed as they were etc., were killed by racist cops, who have nothing better to do than to murder Black men.

 

 

Also wasn't there just recently a Black Police captain, who was murdered? Blue lives matter. Black lives matter. White lives matter. Hispanic lives matter. Asian lives matter. Aggressive felons, fighting the cops/resisting arrest and endangering the lives of cops/other people? Hmm, not so much. "think about their families mimimi". Yeah, ok. Think about the cops families too. They are often highly underpaid (it varies from state to state, and even from City PD to City PD... some make as much as 100k/year, others do the job for 40k/year), get put into extreme situations, and just want to go home safe to their family. And they do it, so you can life in reasonable peace and safety, and have the right to talk <deleted> about them and call them pigs etc..

1 hour ago, FarangULong said:

This. Approximately 80% of Black men killed in the US, are killed by other Black men.

 

It's just further proof, of how dumb and ignorant society is. Instead of bothering to fact check, they gobble up the race-hate fueling <deleted>, peddled by an ever increasing number of "liberal" (I use " " because classical liberalism is almost dead, and really I mean left/far left) media outlets.

 

Blacks males in the US commit more than 50% of violent crimes, even though Blacks (as a whole, so not just males) are only like 15% or so (too lazy to google, but it's around that) of the total population. Yet far more Whites (unarmed also, yes) are shot by cops. White cops, Black cops, etc. Who is "protesting" (rioting) for them?

 

There is no conspiracy, or racist police force killing "unarmed" Blacks. And I especially hate the non Americans, who constantly run their mouths about how often US police uses firearms. Your own country 9 out of 10 times doesn't compare. For example, it rarely - if ever - happens in Germany, the UK, etc., that when a cop does something as banal & mundane as a traffic stop, someone pulls out a gun and shoots him dead (because he happens to have an arrest warrant out for multiple felonies and/or a few ounces of cocaine in the car, or whatever reason). It doesn't happen all that much, that the cop is actually knocked down, and then the guy gets on top of him and starts punching his face in. Even if said assailant isn't reaching for the gun while doing that, the cop has no way of knowing if a) the guy will beat him to death once he's incapaticated, or not; b) if the guy will then steal his gun, and c) use it to kill him, and/or maybe someone else with it.

 

The law for self defence and third person defence is almost the same pretty much everywhere in the Western World (with minor variations). If there is a PERCEIVED (and that is the important bit) threat to your life, health/bodily well being, or that of others, you are entitled to defend yourself. Meaning in a fist-fight type situation, you do not actually have to wait for the other guy to punch you, before you can knock him out/incapacitate him. It is enough, that you can reasonably except and thus PERCEIVE a threat, ie. him squaring up + balling his fists, while moving toward you and even verbally threatening that he's gonna hit you. By extension the same goes for the use of lethal force. If you perceive a threat to your life, you do NOT have to wait for it to manifest, you can shoot (or whatever) first. As a cop, that goes even more.

 

So please, people. Do some research. Don't believe everything the media tells you, about these supposed innocent angels (with an arm long list of felonies on their record, usually), unarmed as they were etc., were killed by racist cops, who have nothing better to do than to murder Black men.

 

 

Also wasn't there just recently a Black Police captain, who was murdered? Blue lives matter. Black lives matter. White lives matter. Hispanic lives matter. Asian lives matter. Aggressive felons, fighting the cops/resisting arrest and endangering the lives of cops/other people? Hmm, not so much. "think about their families mimimi". Yeah, ok. Think about the cops families too. They are often highly underpaid (it varies from state to state, and even from City PD to City PD... some make as much as 100k/year, others do the job for 40k/year), get put into extreme situations, and just want to go home safe to their family. And they do it, so you can life in reasonable peace and safety, and have the right to talk <deleted> about them and call them pigs etc..

Those are some statistics worth protesting over. If black people in the States are Committing more than 50% of the homicides, then where is the outrage for that? That is a shocking statistic.

 

And what the heck are people in other countries doing protesting American civil issues? Have you no issues in your own lands? Americans have created their own problems by encouraging victim status and  putting race issues front in center at every opportunity. All of this coming from the same far left sources all the time. Constantly inflating civil unrest. Keep telling people they are being oppressed and that their problems are someone else's fault, and they will believe you.

If they had a protest against the globalist manipulators like Soros, I would join in.

5 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

These protests are morphing into anti establishment and anti government demos under the BLM/Floyd guise. Must be 50k around US embassy today and marching to Big Ben next. They look like a typical festival crowd today, well there is nothing else to do all summer.

 

Pandering to racial injustice doesn't cost anything, so of course that will be the corporate media's narrative and people will buy in, on one side or the other. Affecting a change in wealth inequality may require stronger measures than what we've seen thusfar.

7 hours ago, sirineou said:

Excellent progress with Covid 19 

In a couple of days, We went from "Don't go out or we all are going to die" to "let's all go out and riot to save lives"  

 

If there was ever any proof needed that our institutions are run by incompetent careerists, there it is.

"black live m..."

just a another proove, that the Orwell propaganda machine is working absolutely efficient. With facebook and the other so called social media they have the people now under total control. It is not just mind control. It is behaviour control. They can start mass rioting at any time everywhere in the world. Or mass migration , etc.  Its heartbreaking to see all these young people totally under control. (black lives matt..- what a joke in Japan!

The live feed I had been watching all afternoon got cut off by protesters threatening the cameraman at Westminster Abbey, this was about 8pm. The crowd at the US embassy was mainly white, but around Whitehall it was mainly angry black men. The police were useless, even got chased off in one road.

 

Maybe there is something in these New World Order theories, because society is breaking down fast. There was no ring leaders in this protest into a riot, some had megaphones saying to act peaceful and others had megaphones saying fight back, crazy sh*t.

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

A historic statue from the 18th Century has been felled & thrown into the harbour in Bristol by these louts today; Maggie would never have stood for that! UK needs a route and branch approach towards tackling these idiots. A good place to start would be to re-introduce corporal punishment to schools and magistrates courts, and some sort of mandatory (national?) service in adulthood.

 

If anyone has a better suggestion i'm all ????????'s

The divisions had been cast by the long drawn out Brexit and still ongoing. The issue of the EU has been dragging on since 1975, you know yourself that this issue is toxic.

 

The spray painting of Churchill was a disgrace, the Colston stature apparently was causing disquiet long before this protest.

Maybe the BLM protests in London are nothing more than the populous getting restless due to the continuing C19 lockdown?

1 minute ago, torturedsole said:

Maybe the BLM protests in London are nothing more than the populous getting restless due to the continuing C19 lockdown?

You have got it in one, these protests have been all over the UK today, even a motorway was held up by 100 of them near Coventry. The trouble is the under 30s are bored, some have lost their jobs, some are not getting educated, some are looking for a fight, some are anti government, some are genuine BLM, some are hard core lefties. Every fringe of society is joining up to protest under the BLM banner, but I noticed today anti government and anti Boris chants in the live stream. One of the chants was "where are your horses", unless Boris gets a grip soon, then it's total anarchy.