Ford Ranger used buy or not buy

[finnsk]

I was falling over this ford Ranger Pickup, I am looking for a used pickup.

I was mainly looking for Toyota or Isuzu, they are strong cars in my opinion and ok to buy used I think.

But then I find this Ford to a good price, so there will be money to make some repairings.

My question is, do Ford make this pick up or is it an "adopted" model from Mazda or another asian producer.

I am mainly thinking about the engine, is it one of the strong ones from the "asian Toyota, Isuzu, Mazda, Nissan family ?

I remember that Ford and Mazda was engaged some years ago, but later split up again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 4, 2020 by finnsk

[metisdead]

Moving to the Motoring forum.

[soi3eddie]

Buying a used car is never beneficial to the buyer as you won't know all the problems with the vehicle. The vehicle pictured looks very well used (possibly abused). Any price price paid would have to be really low to account for known and unknown expenditure required to put in acceptable and safe condition. It's always a chance buying used vehicles.

 

Ford and Mazda were in cahoots for sometime however getting service, parts, repair and help will be much easier for a Toyota or Isuzu. I owned a Toyota Vigo and it was great with easy access to service and repairs (although it never let me down at roadside).

[soi3eddie]

1 minute ago, Bob A Kneale said:

In what way?  How can you tell that just from a not-very-good photo?

Accident damage to front offside is the first clue

[kekalot]

hope this is cheap as heck because you can get around 2008 Suzuki Carry on Facebook under 100k (there are a few) and they look 10x better than this

 

+ as far as i know the box is the same size

[alacrity]

It's a Ford motor fitted to the Ford you're interested in. THB 40,00-50,000 would be maximum price range for what's in the photo. A Mazda of that age uses the same motor(s).

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, finnsk said:

But then I find this Ford to a good price, so there will be money to make some repairing.

How much, how old, what kilos has it done, and is there service history.

[thequietman]

Its got a cage, which means that it has been hauling at least a tonne most days. Right side panel damage and bumper, should tell you to walk away from this. If he won't get that repaired, you can be sure that it hasn't had an oil change in a while.

 

There are Suzuki carry and NV's out there that would be better value. If it selling for around 55,000, then I wud still walk away from this vehicle.

 

Take your time. There are bargains out there. Good luck.

[tiocfaidh]

Following on from all the other posts it is a buyers market people are desperate for money so look around and take your time.

If you buy that truck I think you are buying somebody else's problems.

[AndyAndyAndy]

Toyota Hilux is the way to go.

[Dan747]

If buying used, take the Truck for a spin to a an automobile mechanic and have him look it over. Otherwise buy New and get a warranty.    

[northsouthdevide]

The engine in the ranger has been used worldwide in various forms, in many diesel cars and trucks. 

I would say its a very good engine, even though I drive a Toyota myself. 

[Don Mega]

12 hours ago, alacrity said:

It's a Ford motor fitted to the Ford you're interested in. THB 40,00-50,000 would be maximum price range for what's in the photo. A Mazda of that age uses the same motor(s).

Its actually a Mazda engine (WL-T 2.5) fitted to a rebadged Mazda.

[twocatsmac]

Here’s one I might buy (owned by sister-in-law) with a view to mildly customising and use for transporting motorcycles due to its long bed. 

2003 Ford Ranger 2500cc (or 2000cc) non turbo 305,000 klms, everything works, good brakes,clutch,no smoke.

I value it at 35,000 baht and have been using it for 12 months around the farm and driving between Sakhon Nakon and Udon Thani, it’s reasonably comfortable at 110 kph.

Very solid, reliable trucks, parts plentiful and easy to work on. 

 

Edited July 5, 2020 by twocatsmac

[LukKrueng]

Ford and Mazda where together for few years so the Mazda was actually built on the Ford's platform and not the other way around. 

The car in the photo is an old model - I've seen them around but don't know much about them re engine, road handling and so on. In 2012 Ford opened a new, big factory in Rayong and they supply cars and trucks to many countries including Australia,  New Zealand, the Philippines and more. I own a newer model of ranger and it is great driving it, can carry heavy loads, good road handling. However - maintenance is expensive, parts only from Ford, most local mechanics can't fix them. For an old car I would go with Toyota or Isuzu

[Don Mega]

3 minutes ago, LukKrueng said:

Ford and Mazda where together for few years so the Mazda was actually built on the Ford's platform and not the other way around. 

The car in the photo is an old model - I've seen them around but don't know much about them re engine, road handling and so on. In 2012 Ford opened a new, big factory in Rayong and they supply cars and trucks to many countries including Australia,  New Zealand, the Philippines and more. I own a newer model of ranger and it is great driving it, can carry heavy loads, good road handling. However - maintenance is expensive, parts only from Ford, most local mechanics can't fix them. For an old car I would go with Toyota or Isuzu

Prior to the 2007 release the Ranger was based on the Mazda B-series platform.

 

[cmrichsw]

FORD - Fix Or Repair Daily

[Don Mega]

Just now, cmrichsw said:

FORD - Fix Or Repair Daily

Ford - First On Race Day.

[4MyEgo]

29 minutes ago, LukKrueng said:

maintenance is expensive, parts only from Ford, most local mechanics can't fix them.

I have had a Ranger since February 2016.

 

The initial servicing from Ford regarding the 3 year warranty, is horses for courses, once out of the warranty period, the usual 15,000kim oil, filter changes are done for half the price at the local mechanic for 2,000 baht. Only ever had to change a hose from radiator to engine and he could do it but would have to wait for part from Ford, as Ford was on the way home and had it in stock, they said come in, 700 odd baht fitted.

 

Currently have 150,000km's on it and still haven't changed the brakes, need oil change in 1,000km's will get him to have a look again as it's been a year and I am used to the older cars changing brakes far more often, although I know times have changed ????

 

[andygrr]

I wouldn't go near it it is a basic 2 door with high bars fitted in the rear so probably been worked very hard / overloaded. Also very old and you can see some minor damage. 

[LukKrueng]

1 hour ago, 4MyEgo said:

I have had a Ranger since February 2016.

 

The initial servicing from Ford regarding the 3 year warranty, is horses for courses, once out of the warranty period, the usual 15,000kim oil, filter changes are done for half the price at the local mechanic for 2,000 baht. Only ever had to change a hose from radiator to engine and he could do it but would have to wait for part from Ford, as Ford was on the way home and had it in stock, they said come in, 700 odd baht fitted.

 

Currently have 150,000km's on it and still haven't changed the brakes, need oil change in 1,000km's will get him to have a look again as it's been a year and I am used to the older cars changing brakes far more often, although I know times have changed ????

 

150k km with no change of breaks pads? How do you stop the car? 

I had to change the wires of the reverse sensors twice - over 1000 baht per time. 

A faulty sensor on the radiator hose cost me 1600 baht. Batteries tend to die fast when doing mostly short trips. I'm on my 3rd battery now and have to replace it already - over 4000 baht and can only get the right battery (specs and size) at Ford. 

Change of fan belt and transmission oil - 12000 baht. 

[Iamemjay]

Whilst I would have serious doubts about the level of care of this particular vehicle, contrary to what another post states, parts, body and mechanical, are readily available at very reasonable prices for this model Ranger, so why the heck not fix it before sale?? That would have cost a pittance.

 

I have a 2005 model Ranger, almost identical, and I can say without reservation, whilst it is ultra basic feature-wise, it has been unquestionably the most reliable and overall economic vehicle I have owned in my whole motoring career ... but then, mine was only 8 months old when I bought it and it had a known history. Can you guess why I still have it and have absolutely no intention of selling?

 

Mine has a load frame too but has rarely been overloaded. I cannot guarantee the same if it has had a Thai owner.

 

Mazdas are just rebadged Fords (or vice versa if you like). Mazda is 50% owned by Ford, so I'm not sure what is the issue is here. Mine was assembled in Thailand by Ford as were their rebadged sisters of that model, the Mazda fighter.

[Don Mega]

13 minutes ago, LukKrueng said:

Batteries tend to die fast when doing mostly short trips. I'm on my 3rd battery now and have to replace it already - over 4000 baht and can only get the right battery (specs and size) at Ford. 

 

Given you only do short trips maybe the smart charge function is causing your battery issues, Ford techs can turn that off if you ask them.

 

Assuming your Ranger is newer than 2015 that is.

[Don Mega]

16 minutes ago, Iamemjay said:

 

Mazdas are just rebadged Fords (or vice versa if you like). Mazda is 50% owned by Ford, so I'm not sure what is the issue is here. Mine was assembled in Thailand by Ford as were their rebadged sisters of that model, the Mazda fighter.

Mazda is not 50% owned by Ford, the most Ford ever owned was 33% and they parted ways about 5 years ago.

 

They still co-own the Auto alliance facility though.

Edited July 6, 2020 by Don Mega

[LukKrueng]

5 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Given you only do short trips maybe the smart charge function is causing your battery issues, Ford techs can turn that off if you ask them.

 

Assuming your Ranger is newer than 2015 that is.

2013

[Don Mega]

5 minutes ago, LukKrueng said:

2013

Check with the dealer, google tells me some PX1 models did have smart charge as well.

 

I thought it was introduced in the PX2 facelift but in South Africa their PX1 has it.

Edited July 6, 2020 by Don Mega

[4MyEgo]

26 minutes ago, LukKrueng said:

150k km with no change of breaks pads? How do you stop the car? 

I had to change the wires of the reverse sensors twice - over 1000 baht per time. 

A faulty sensor on the radiator hose cost me 1600 baht. Batteries tend to die fast when doing mostly short trips. I'm on my 3rd battery now and have to replace it already - over 4000 baht and can only get the right battery (specs and size) at Ford. 

Change of fan belt and transmission oil - 12000 baht. 

I use my gears and as I live in the bush, only brake when I have to stop.

Yes one battery change at 3 years with Ford, about 3,800 baht as they have the code which you need when changing the battery, and the price was pretty much the same as outside.

Tyres replaced at 90,000 kilometres, all four fitted and balanced, same as before Bridgestones 18,000 baht, no 5% charge on my debit card, although had to argue with the guy in a nice way, i.e. it would be a deal breaker ????

How old is your Ford to warrant am oil transmission change ?

[LukKrueng]

2 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Check with the dealer, google tells me some PX1 models did have smart charge as well.

 

I thought it was introduced in the PX2 facelift but in South Africa their PX1 has it.

At the moment I'm slow charging the battery about once a week, usually overnight or even 24 hours. But seems that its not enough as the auto transmission is playing up and I read on several sites that bad battery can have bad influence on the transmission as well as on the engine performance

[Don Mega]

1 minute ago, LukKrueng said:

At the moment I'm slow charging the battery about once a week, usually overnight or even 24 hours. But seems that its not enough as the auto transmission is playing up and I read on several sites that bad battery can have bad influence on the transmission as well as on the engine performance

Yes, modern vehicle full of computers and other electrical gadgets require a healthy battery.

The smart charge turns off the alternator and only turns on to maintain "supposedly" an optimal level charge.. this however has proven to be unreliable and will let the battery fall to lower levels.

[LukKrueng]

5 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

I use my gears and as I live in the bush, only brake when I have to stop.

Yes one battery change at 3 years with Ford, about 3,800 baht as they have the code which you need when changing the battery, and the price was pretty much the same as outside.

Tyres replaced at 90,000 kilometres, all four fitted and balanced, same as before Bridgestones 18,000 baht, no 5% charge on my debit card, although had to argue with the guy in a nice way, i.e. it would be a deal breaker ????

How old is your Ford to warrant am oil transmission change ?

I have just over 200k km on the odometer. According to Ford oil has to be changed at 100k, but they didn't change mine as I didn't instruct them ????

So changed it at around 180k