Hybrid Vehicles

[Banana7]

Do older hybrid vehicles have to be emission tested? Are license/road tax fees lower for hybrid vehicles?

[Pattaya Spotter]

Unless it's a pure eVehicle, why would it not need emissions testing after 7 years? Don't know about reduced annual road taxes.

[Banana7]

34 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Unless it's a pure eVehicle, why would it not need emissions testing after 7 years? Don't know about reduced annual road taxes.

Some countries omit emission testing of hybrid vehicles as an incentive for people to own more hybrid vehicles. These vehicles generally produce less overall pollution on a trip since the petrol engine doesn't do all the work. On a 100 km trip a hybrid might use 2-3 liters of fuel while the same vehicle without the hybrid powertrain might use 4-5 liters of fuel, and produce more pollution. Both vehicles have the same fuel engine.

 

Lots of countries reduce license fees for hybrid vehicle, as an incentive to buy them, so the country has less motor vehicle pollution. Hybrid vehicles cost more, so the the lower license fees help reduce the owner's costs. Owner pays upfront more but over time, total cost of ownership is reduced by lower license fees and lower fuel costs. Country wins with lower pollution from the hybrid vehicles.

 

Some countries even provide a rebate on new hybrid vehicles.

 

Does Thailand provide any incentives to purchase hybrid motor vehicles instead of petrol vehicles?

 

Edited September 3, 2020 by Banana7

[Pattaya Spotter]

2 minutes ago, Banana7 said:

Some countries omit emission testing of hybrid vehicles as an incentive for people to own more hybrid vehicles. These vehicles generally produce less overall pollution on a trip since the petrol engine doesn't do all the work. On a 100 km trip a hybrid might use 2-3 liters of fuel while the same vehicle without the hybrid powertrain might use 4-5 liters of fuel, and produce more pollution. Both vehicles have the same fuel engine.

 

Lots of countries reduce license fees for hybrid vehicle, as an incentive to buy them, so the country has less motor vehicle pollution. Hybrid vehicles cost more, so the the lower license fees help reduce the owner's costs.

In Thailand, hybrid cars are substantially more expensive than their ICE equivalents and annual road taxes relatively low...so the difference in the tax relative to the increased purchase price is de minimis. We'll see what all the autohead experts here have to say on testing and savings for hybrid cars.

[Crossy]

7 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

In Thailand, hybrid cars are substantially more expensive than their ICE equivalents and annual road taxes relatively low.

 

Not always, a friend has a "sensible 4-door plug-in hybrid saloon" which was about 1MB CHEAPER than the pure petrol version AND has a load of extra GGs from the electric.

 

OK, it's a Porche Panamera, but the exception proves the rule ...

 

[richard_smith237]

11 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

In Thailand, hybrid cars are substantially more expensive than their ICE equivalents and annual road taxes relatively low...so the difference in the tax relative to the increased purchase price is de minimis. We'll see what all the autohead experts here have to say on testing and savings for hybrid cars.

 

I know this threads about hybrid cars - the same goes for Electric cars. 

 

Its the same in the UK. The decent electric cars are far more costly to purchase than ICE vehicles. 

 

When a base model Tesla 3 costs US$35,000 in the US there is no reason it shouldn’t cost something in the region of 1.5 Million Baht here (which should cover import costs etc).

 

There is no reason for the Government to apply tax on Electric Vehicles other than greed.

Edited September 3, 2020 by richard_smith237

[macahoom]

14 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I know this threads about hybrid cars - the same goes for Electric cars. 

 

Its the same in the UK. The decent electric cars are far more costly to purchase than ICE vehicles. 

 

When a base model Tesla 3 costs US$35,000 in the US there is no reason it shouldn’t cost something in the region of 1.5 Million Baht here (which should cover import costs etc).

 

There is no reason for the Government to apply tax on Electric Vehicles other than greed.

 

I think the Thailand tax on imported EVs must be lower than on imported ICE vehicles.

 

Here why I say that: In Europe and the USA, a base model Porsche 911 and the base model Porsche Taycan (100% electric) are almost exactly the same price.

 

In Thailand, however, the base 911 is 9.9 million baht and the base Taycan is only 7.1 million baht. I think this must be due to lower tax on the EV.

 

That makes the Taycan a bargain in Thailand. 

Edited September 4, 2020 by macahoom

[DavisH]

On 9/3/2020 at 3:20 PM, Banana7 said:

Do older hybrid vehicles have to be emission tested? Are license/road tax fees lower for hybrid vehicles?

Normal car here aren't even emissions tested. I've only ever seen them check the vin and brakes on any of my old cars I got checked here. They may notice a car bollowing out smoke though and start asking  questions ????