The future for Thai tourism

[San888]

It's clear as most expats will tell you that their stay is neither welcomed or desired. The same goes for the regular falang tourist. The arrival of Covid has magnified the above...your welcome to visit , if your wealthy , if your prepared to pay top dollar for everything over a 3month period.

Thailand needs the tourist more than the tourist needs Thailand. Tourism contributes 20% to the Thai economy.

A decision to spend high earned savings in another SE Asian country post Covid, will result in two things happening in Thailand 1. A lowering of the Thai Baht. 2. The return of appreciation for the foreign tourist. 

As for the counter argument that the hole will be filled in by the Chinese and Indians..yes maybe by on a head count, but not in terms of money spent over a two week period..the Falang Tourist on average spends 2-3 times more..

 

To continue as is post Covid...booking your next vacation to The land of smiles will result in a high cost holiday, with a rubbish exchange rate, paying top dollar for everything. As for the Junta, there is no need to take any measures to provide incentives such as reducing the value of the Baht, if if everyone's happy paying top $$$

[madmen]

Oh dear... 

[alianware]

That is true. If thailand continues the arrogant policy and don't want falang anymore. Lets find another place. Philiphine, indonesia, Kambodia etc...

[OneMoreFarang]

There are some reason why many tourist will return. ????

 

[mr mr]

find a new hobby thailand...........fast.

[worgeordie]

The "Golden Goose" died from Covid 19, they are busy looking

for a replacement......Less tourists is better for me,but not Thailand.

regards Worgeordie

[alianware]

14 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

There are some reason why many tourist will return. ????

 

But if they return, they will realize that nobody is there. And the lights are off.

[Yinn]

16 minutes ago, alianware said:

That is true. If thailand continues the arrogant policy and don't want falang anymore. Lets find another place. Philiphine, indonesia, Kambodia etc...

Er, please show this “ policy” 

 

Most farang country get free visa, no apply. Just buy plane ticket and come. 

 

Only TVF paranoia conspiracy loon think not welcome. Millions normal farang love thailand. Famous.

 

We have more tourist than dangerous Philippine, 3rd world Cambodia and Muslim Indonesia all together. You forget communist Vietnam? 

 

People love return thailand everyyear, for best food, so fun, and lovely Thai smile. ????

 

Thailand number 1 tourism. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandratalty/2019/09/04/bangkok-is-the-most-visited-city-in-the-world-again/

 

Bangkok is again the world’s most-visited city for the fourth consecutive year, beating out Paris and London. The rankings are compiled annually by Mastercard. Welcoming around 22.7 million international visitors, Bangkok ranked as the top destination for global travellers this year.

 

U.S. News & World Report said of Phuket:

“Pure white sands, aquamarine waters and limestone cliffs await travellers who visit Thailand’s southwestern island of Phuket. 

For picture-perfect views, travellers should plan to visit Patong Beach, Phang Nga Bay and Promthep Cape. 

What’s more, Phuket’s colourful shrines, elephant sanctuaries and Laem Hin Pier, which features floating restaurants that dish out fresh seafood, are sure to impress.”

Along with Phuket, other Thai destinations also featured in the ‘Best Places to Visit in Asia’ rankings. The number six spot went to Chiang Mai, the number 9 spot to Bangkok and the number 12 spot to Railay Beach in Krabi province.

 

Link.

https://www.thailand-business-news.com/tourism/74015-phuket-among-the-worlds-best-places-to-visit.html

 

 

Thailand is quickly catching up to South Korea as the world’s prime destination for cosmetic surgeries and treatments. Home to 64 JCI-accredited medical facilities – three times more than Singapore and 6 times more than Malaysia.

 

https://thethaiger.com/thai-life/thailand-third-biggest-medical-tourism-destination-in-the-world

 

When the world control covid, thailand be more popular because. People be safe. London and Paris still not control. Tourist worry to take family. Dangerous 

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thailand-ranks-1-for-handling-covid-19-crisis

 

 

Thailand have place for everybody like 

phuket for hiso

koh phangan for full moon backpacker

ko Samui for family

ko Tao for diving 

chiangmai for mountain, hill tribe

bangkok for excitement

hua him for elderly

pattaya for lonely. 

Phangnga for beautiful

Ranong for wonderful people

 

so much

 

Welcome to Thailand Sir.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Puchaiyank]

Thailand should create a visa free zone...give tourists who only want to party...a place to go to not gave to be hassled by immigration and police looking for Tea Money!

 

Make entry and exit easy...would attract party people from all over the world...

 

 

[Brunolem]

8 minutes ago, Yinn said:

 

Thailand have place for everybody like 

phuket for hiso

koh phangan for full moon backpacker

ko Samui for family

ko Tao for diving 

chiangmai for mountain, hill tribe

bangkok for excitement

hua him for elderly

pattaya for lonely. 

Phangnga for beautiful

Ranong for wonderful people

 

so much

 

Welcome to Thailand Sir.

 

 

 

If it is not too much asking, how much do you get paid by the TAT?

[connda]

55 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

The "Golden Goose" died from Covid 19, they are busy looking

for a replacement......Less tourists is better for me,but not Thailand.

regards Worgeordie

Actually, Covid-19 is the knife they are now using to disembowel the Golden Geese.

[worgeordie]

Just now, connda said:

Actually, Covid-19 is the knife they are now using to disembowel the Golden Geese.

Yes they are doing an autopsy,results at later date.

regards Worgeordie

[Starmocihc]

Game over. Sad for many, but for wealthy opportunists, well, it's a good position to be in. ????

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, alianware said:

But if they return, they will realize that nobody is there. And the lights are off.

Currently some lights are off but enough are still on. And the service providers are very keen these days. I am sure in the long run there will always be a supply and demand balance like in the last decades.

[moose7117]

2 hours ago, Yinn said:

 

hua him for elderly

 

 

 

 

Hey !

 

That is completely uncalled for, i ain't that old ! 

[San888]

Dear All,

 

The aim of the original post was not to slam Thailand as a go to destination..

It's been my number 1 destination for the last 10 years...but to really think about whether you really want to keep spending your hard earned cash in a country that does not really appreciate the western tourist, only there money and where the  exchange rate is almost heading to half as it was  5 years ago....steps could be taken to address that to ensure tourist get more value...more value =more spending...Thailand  wins ัััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััั.

 

The question one must ask is how low does the £,$,€ have to fall before you say enough is enough, cos for now , you keep spending, why would they want to lower the Baht. "For what " as the locals say in Thailand!!!

[josephbloggs]

7 hours ago, San888 said:

Dear All,

 

The aim of the original post was not to slam Thailand as a go to destination..

It's been my number 1 destination for the last 10 years...but to really think about whether you really want to keep spending your hard earned cash in a country that does not really appreciate the western tourist, only there money and where the  exchange rate is almost heading to half as it was  5 years ago....steps could be taken to address that to ensure tourist get more value...more value =more spending...Thailand  wins ัััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััััั.

 

The question one must ask is how low does the £,$,€ have to fall before you say enough is enough, cos for now , you keep spending, why would they want to lower the Baht. "For what " as the locals say in Thailand!!!

You do realise there are several downsides to just devaluing a currency, right?   Or you think it's just "hey let's make our currency cheaper so more tourists will come, yay!"?   They could devaluate it by 75% to get loooooads of tourists, so why not do that?

And yet another one who spouts "they don't want us here".  A six month amnesty was pretty generous, did anywhere offer more?  Thailand offers visa free entry for nationals of 64 countries.  Book a flight, turn up, have a great holiday.  They are now offering a 9-month visa for tourists.  

The immediate future for Thai tourism is very bleak due to Covid.  It is not going to recover or open up any time soon, but that is not because they hate you.

Oh, and by the way, it is the goal of every single country's tourism board to entice the highest spenders and extract the most money on their visits.  More money and less people is a universal goal, Thailand is not unique.  Have a look at the marketing goals of any major tourism destination - attract the wealthy, extract as much money as possible - it is openly stated and out there on the internet for you.  Why should Thailand be any different?  In my opinion Thailand opens up to a much broader range of visitor than most.  Do you need bank statements or financial records to arrive here and be granted entry?  Nope (not for most).

People sure do like to moan.

[elliss]

12 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Thailand should create a visa free zone...give tourists who only want to party...a place to go to not gave to be hassled by immigration and police looking for Tea Money!

 

Make entry and exit easy...would attract party people from all over the world...

 

 

 

 Excuse me . 

        Expert expats, on TVforum  , who like to be known as resididents in the kingdom,

      are not in the least concerned , about party tourism ..

  Whatever next ....

[NoshowJones]

10 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

You do realise there are several downsides to just devaluing a currency, right?   Or you think it's just "hey let's make our currency cheaper so more tourists will come, yay!"?   They could devaluate it by 75% to get loooooads of tourists, so why not do that?

And yet another one who spouts "they don't want us here".  A six month amnesty was pretty generous, did anywhere offer more?  Thailand offers visa free entry for nationals of 64 countries.  Book a flight, turn up, have a great holiday.  They are now offering a 9-month visa for tourists.  

The immediate future for Thai tourism is very bleak due to Covid.  It is not going to recover or open up any time soon, but that is not because they hate you.

Oh, and by the way, it is the goal of every single country's tourism board to entice the highest spenders and extract the most money on their visits.  More money and less people is a universal goal, Thailand is not unique.  Have a look at the marketing goals of any major tourism destination - attract the wealthy, extract as much money as possible - it is openly stated and out there on the internet for you.  Why should Thailand be any different?  In my opinion Thailand opens up to a much broader range of visitor than most.  Do you need bank statements or financial records to arrive here and be granted entry?  Nope (not for most).

People sure do like to moan.

Thailand was chasing away tourists and expats alike way before covid due to ridiculous immigration issues. The soldiers who are trying to run the country have made sure of that, and talk about me liking to moan if you like, but I am just telling the truth.

[alianware]

20 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

You do realise there are several downsides to just devaluing a currency, right?   Or you think it's just "hey let's make our currency cheaper so more tourists will come, yay!"?   They could devaluate it by 75% to get loooooads of tourists, so why not do that?

And yet another one who spouts "they don't want us here".  A six month amnesty was pretty generous, did anywhere offer more?  Thailand offers visa free entry for nationals of 64 countries.  Book a flight, turn up, have a great holiday.  They are now offering a 9-month visa for tourists.  

The immediate future for Thai tourism is very bleak due to Covid.  It is not going to recover or open up any time soon, but that is not because they hate you.

Oh, and by the way, it is the goal of every single country's tourism board to entice the highest spenders and extract the most money on their visits.  More money and less people is a universal goal, Thailand is not unique.  Have a look at the marketing goals of any major tourism destination - attract the wealthy, extract as much money as possible - it is openly stated and out there on the internet for you.  Why should Thailand be any different?  In my opinion Thailand opens up to a much broader range of visitor than most.  Do you need bank statements or financial records to arrive here and be granted entry?  Nope (not for most).

People sure do like to moan.

So stupid. What is the different between Tourist Visa and STV ?? NOTHING ! STV is even more expensive with all the drama !!!

you get in total 270 days with STV but have to pay 6000 bath and with tourist visa you can get in total 90 days but cost only 1900 bath for one extension  !

[josephbloggs]

55 minutes ago, alianware said:

So stupid. What is the different between Tourist Visa and STV ?? NOTHING ! STV is even more expensive with all the drama !!!

you get in total 270 days with STV but have to pay 6000 bath and with tourist visa you can get in total 90 days but cost only 1900 bath for one extension  !

Er you ask what's the difference, then you go on to explain the difference to yourself whilst seemingly getting quite angry.  

A Tourist Visa gives you 60 days which can be extended by a further 30 to give a total of 90 days.
The STV visa gives you up to 270 days.

Got it now, or do you need to explain it to yourself again?

[alianware]

7 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Er you ask what's the difference, then you go on to explain the difference to yourself whilst seemingly getting quite angry.  

A Tourist Visa gives you 60 days which can be extended by a further 30 to give a total of 90 days.
The STV visa gives you up to 270 days.

Got it now, or do you need to explain it to yourself again?

yes i understand 270 days but it also costs you more. This model is just to lure tourist to earn money. Alone the hotels cost you minimum 50000 bath for 14 nights. Plus another hotel services and your private data through that stupid APP. 

[Boomer6969]

On 9/22/2020 at 11:25 AM, moose7117 said:

Hey !

 

That is completely uncalled for, i ain't that old ! 

Don't complain she could have said: "Pattaya, for Farangs too ugly to marry an Issan girl"..

[moose7117]

4 minutes ago, Boomer6969 said:

Don't complain she could have said: "Pattaya, for Farangs too ugly to marry an Issan girl"..

That would be ok.

Me no live in Pattaya !

And i know i am handsome, been told enough.

[ThailandRyan]

On 9/22/2020 at 8:43 AM, Yinn said:

Er, please show this “ policy” 

 

Most farang country get free visa, no apply. Just buy plane ticket and come. 

 

Only TVF paranoia conspiracy loon think not welcome. Millions normal farang love thailand. Famous.

 

We have more tourist than dangerous Philippine, 3rd world Cambodia and Muslim Indonesia all together. You forget communist Vietnam? 

 

People love return thailand everyyear, for best food, so fun, and lovely Thai smile. ????

 

Thailand number 1 tourism. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandratalty/2019/09/04/bangkok-is-the-most-visited-city-in-the-world-again/

 

Bangkok is again the world’s most-visited city for the fourth consecutive year, beating out Paris and London. The rankings are compiled annually by Mastercard. Welcoming around 22.7 million international visitors, Bangkok ranked as the top destination for global travellers this year.

 

U.S. News & World Report said of Phuket:

“Pure white sands, aquamarine waters and limestone cliffs await travellers who visit Thailand’s southwestern island of Phuket. 

For picture-perfect views, travellers should plan to visit Patong Beach, Phang Nga Bay and Promthep Cape. 

What’s more, Phuket’s colourful shrines, elephant sanctuaries and Laem Hin Pier, which features floating restaurants that dish out fresh seafood, are sure to impress.”

Along with Phuket, other Thai destinations also featured in the ‘Best Places to Visit in Asia’ rankings. The number six spot went to Chiang Mai, the number 9 spot to Bangkok and the number 12 spot to Railay Beach in Krabi province.

 

Link.

https://www.thailand-business-news.com/tourism/74015-phuket-among-the-worlds-best-places-to-visit.html

 

 

Thailand is quickly catching up to South Korea as the world’s prime destination for cosmetic surgeries and treatments. Home to 64 JCI-accredited medical facilities – three times more than Singapore and 6 times more than Malaysia.

 

https://thethaiger.com/thai-life/thailand-third-biggest-medical-tourism-destination-in-the-world

 

When the world control covid, thailand be more popular because. People be safe. London and Paris still not control. Tourist worry to take family. Dangerous 

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thailand-ranks-1-for-handling-covid-19-crisis

 

 

Thailand have place for everybody like 

phuket for hiso

koh phangan for full moon backpacker

ko Samui for family

ko Tao for diving 

chiangmai for mountain, hill tribe

bangkok for excitement

hua him for elderly

pattaya for lonely. 

Phangnga for beautiful

Ranong for wonderful people

 

so much

 

Welcome to Thailand Sir.

 

 

 

 

 

 

But @Yinn the doors are still shut, and no one can get here without doing circus acrobatics, please tell me WHY?

[impulse]

On 9/21/2020 at 8:52 PM, Puchaiyank said:

Thailand should create a visa free zone...give tourists who only want to party...a place to go to not gave to be hassled by immigration and police looking for Tea Money!

 

Make entry and exit easy...would attract party people from all over the world...

 

Entry's always been easy (before Covid)  Exit's easy, too.  It only gets difficult if you want to reside in Thailand on a tourist status. 

 

And that's only been getting difficult since 2014.

 

That said, during Covid, perhaps they can relegate one island with an airport to be a free for all, completely isolated from the rest of Thailand.  Come at your own risk and open a business to cater to thousands of luv starved, thirsty foreigners.  Make money hand over fist, but remember- you're stuck on ASQ Island for the duration.  Until they come up with a vaccine.  Or you fly out to some other country.

 

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, alianware said:

yes i understand 270 days but it also costs you more. This model is just to lure tourist to earn money. Alone the hotels cost you minimum 50000 bath for 14 nights. Plus another hotel services and your private data through that stupid APP. 

A 60 day visa is $50, so around 1,500 THB.  30 day extension is 1,900, so total for 90 days is 3,400 THB.

For 270 days the STV will cost you 6,000.  So less than double, for three times the stay.  What's your problem with that?  Longer visas cost more in any country in the whole world.    It is really not a lot of money for a 9 month visa. 

And yes, hotels also cost money, that is quote normal.

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

But @Yinn the doors are still shut, and no one can get here without doing circus acrobatics, please tell me WHY?

Heard of Covid?  It's been all over the news recently.

[ThailandRyan]

20 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Heard of Covid?  It's been all over the news recently.

of course, how stupid of me, please forgive my ignorance....lol. Sarcasm at it's finest, if you read Yinn's post, then you would understand my comment.

[impulse]

37 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

A 60 day visa is $50, so around 1,500 THB.  30 day extension is 1,900, so total for 90 days is 3,400 THB.

For 270 days the STV will cost you 6,000.  So less than double, for three times the stay.  What's your problem with that?  Longer visas cost more in any country in the whole world.    It is really not a lot of money for a 9 month visa. 

And yes, hotels also cost money, that is quote normal.

 

It ain't the cost of the visa.  It's being locked in that hotel room for the 14 days.  Not quite so normal...

 

56,000 baht and 14 days of my life locked in a room are a steep price to pay for a holiday.  Unless it's a very deluxe suite, and then it's not 50K.