52% of Chiang Mai’s expats thinking of leaving - survey

[LomSak27]

Just now, Traubert said:

Indonesia? The country that fills up the region with smoke every year for four months?

 

Indonesia has reverse seasons from Thailand. When it is the hot, burning season here it is the rains in Indo. Uh oh, worried about the rains now ... head to the eastern side of the worlds largest archipelago; Sulawesi, the Moluccas or Lesser Sunda islands.

No need to send money for this information. It's all free.

 

[SiSePuede419]

Air pollution?

 

Who knew Chiang Mai had air pollution before they moved there?

 

Who are these geniuses? ????

 

[SiSePuede419]

1 hour ago, LomSak27 said:

head to the eastern side of the worlds largest archipelago; Sulawesi, the Moluccas or Lesser Sunda islands.

 

Is that in the World's Largest Muslim country?  I'm sure it's perfectly safe there.  Terrorists would never think of attacking any area that Farangs inhabit.

 

No need to send money for this information. It's all free ????

[sharktooth]

Been on the cards for a while and finally pulled the plug. All affairs will be settled by the middle of November. Thank f...

[ChakaKhan]

16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

bring suitcases full of foreign currency to launder in with them

If I can find some money to launder will they let me back into LOS???  ????   I will quarantine at Swampy 7-11

[ChakaKhan]

5 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Air pollution?

 

Who knew Chiang Mai had air pollution before they moved there?

 

Who are these geniuses? ????

 

I feel lucky my President is a Stable Genius....he even says Covid will just go away----hence the "Genius"

[ChakaKhan]

18 hours ago, actonion said:

Appreciate Thailand for what it is?......do tell , what is it??

 

mama cups and sangsom ????

[sammieuk1]

On 10/29/2020 at 10:08 AM, steven100 said:

 " 52% of Chiang Mai’s expats thinking of leaving "

 

oh goody  !   clear out the miserable gits and make way for those who appreciate Thailand for what it is. 

Are you going somewhere then ????

[sammieuk1]

53% i'm off if I ever get back that is ????

[hotchilli]

On 10/29/2020 at 5:08 PM, steven100 said:

 " 52% of Chiang Mai’s expats thinking of leaving "

 

oh goody  !   clear out the miserable gits and make way for those who appreciate Thailand for what it is. 

You mean get rid of the expats who are spending a lot of money living here, depositing large sums in the bank for them to invest, in favour of backpackers trawling walking street, bangla road, full moon party that's all Thailand has to offer.

[cardinalblue]

The amount of new moo baans and Thai people moving in will continue towards gridlock on the arteries into the most..

 

expats leaving will have zero impact on CM traffic...

[Lacessit]

On 10/30/2020 at 4:53 AM, orang37 said:

I wonder what % of Thai women married to farangs 20~30 years older think about leaving.

 

 

At a rough guess, zero %? Living in a nice house with a farang who provides a steady source of income beats the hell out of planting rice for a living. Not to mention said farang doesn't beat them or steal the money they earn for booze and gambling.

[Hanuman2547]

Doesn't the south of Thailand get a lot of smoke and haze each year from fires in Indonesia?  

The rest of Thailand still seems to have a lot of air pollution and it is definitely getting worse.  I always thought I would retire to in Thailand when that day cam but now I don't think so.  At best I might stay 4-5 months a year in Thailand and the rest in my home country.  I did enjoy my 12 years of living and working (for the most part) in Thailand.  

[ChakaKhan]

18 hours ago, Lacessit said:

At a rough guess, zero %? Living in a nice house with a farang who provides a steady source of income beats the hell out of planting rice for a living. Not to mention said farang doesn't beat them or steal the money they earn for booze and gambling.

The Holy Grail most sought by thai ladies in the LOS...the now elusive Golden Grandpas......poor buffaloes..

[richard10365]

Before I start, I do agree the air pollution is a problem. Everyone knows about it. No one has a solution that works. 

 

According to the presentation, the purpose of the survey (yes,...another smog survey) was to gather feedback from the international community in order to improve the health environment in Chiang Mai. I hope they accomplished their goal. The research was based on foreigners responding to another social media survey.

 

Some of the assumptions are a bit misleading. For example, Chiang Mai does not get 50% of it's revenue from tourism. It's only about 15%.  Also, domestic (Thai) tourism brings in double of what international tourism brings into Chiang Mai each and every year. 

 

Below is a recent (2020-Q2) report from the Thailand Office of the National Economic and Social Development Council which supports my facts. Raw data from the Ministry of Tourism and Sports website can also support my claim.

Source

 

Perhaps the economic footprint that foreign tourist leave behind is considered more important to places like Phuket or Bangkok rather than Chiang Mai because Thai tourists are the dominate travelers in Chiang Mai. This fact is often overlooked due to the tendency to follow tourism trends the rest of the country follows. 

 

Another false assumption is international schools in Chiang Mai hire tourists. That's just wrong in so many ways and not even worth discussing. 

I was also disappointed to hear that almost 65% of the  foreign residents aged 15-45 wants to leave the country because of pollution. I was unaware many of the 15 to 25 year old were major contributors to the local economy with most being business people and heads of families. Best of luck to them.

 

Foreigners are replaceable. They always have been and always will be. The country doesn't come to a halt with foreigners leave. Other foreigners will come into the country and replace them. I'm sure I will be replaced some day too.

 

I do agree that the air pollution is a problem. 

[daveAustin]

 

On 10/30/2020 at 4:01 AM, Natai Beach said:

Only the trees complain down here, because there isn’t enough carbon dioxide for them, the air being so clean. 

lol. Farmer burning aside, is that why the Amazon is so lush then because there is so much pollution to satiate the trees? Carbon dioxide is part of the mixture of air and is always there. Pretty sure good soil and water play a part in a tree's growth.

[daveAustin]

On 10/29/2020 at 9:53 PM, orang37 said:

I wonder what % of Thai women married to farangs 20~30 years older think about leaving.

 

I wonder what % of everyone doesn't think about leaving fill-in-the-blank (multiple entries accepted).

 

100% of me is trying, and failing, not to wonder about leaving this body. The Orang mind-soul I cohabit with in this meat-suit says that's immaterial.

 

~o:37;

100% of me is thinking schizophrenia is a thing.

Only joking, Mr Orange 

 

But thinking numbers have left already, certainly from the late Naughties to now.

[fangless]

12 hours ago, daveAustin said:

But thinking numbers have left already, certainly from the late Naughties to now

And many have arrived to stay since then!