Foreigner injured in clash with protester during pro-democracy rally at Jomtien Beach

[Andrew65]

2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

No doubt good, sensible advice, but there is a proud history of foreigners supporting just causes throughout history.  Perhaps if more foreign residents in Thailand were brave enough to stand up and be counted, faster progress towards a just and fair society could be made.

I know what you mean. However, I was there 10 years ago when they were shooting people in the streets.

 

Also, in about 2014?? There was an Indian national on the podium giving-out during the 'Reset' protests, he was very lucky not to be deported, and he'd lived in Thailand for a very long time.

Foreign (British) Embassies always advise their nationals to stay away from such things, physically and vocally.

[jaiyen]

He would never behave like that back in Russia ! Would have got far more than a little headbutt.

[Wuvu2]

I don't think it matters how it started, the Farang was a total <deleted>. First we all know to that farangs should keep our noses out of Thai politics.  Second, being a tough guy and standing his ground was more important to him that protecting his daughter. He wasn't just passing by and got assaulted out of the blue, he went there with an attitude to be a jerk and didn't know when to walk away. No sympathy for him at all. 

[nobodysfriend]

Head first ... right into the problems ...

 

This guy , Narathiwat “Ken” Khamma , did no favor to the democratic movement by reacting in such an uncontrolled and offensive way . ( and that in front of many cameras ...)

I thought that Thai's ' lose their face ' by showing that they are not able to control themselves ... ?

I do not know what led to this , but it is difficult to justify violence only because of a problem in communication .

 

Edited November 9, 2020 by nobodysfriend

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, Wuvu2 said:

I don't think it matters how it started, the Farang was a total <deleted>. First we all know to that farangs should keep our noses out of Thai politics.  Second, being a tough guy and standing his ground was more important to him that protecting his daughter. He wasn't just passing by and got assaulted out of the blue, he went there with an attitude to be a jerk and didn't know when to walk away. No sympathy for him at all. 

 

Wow... this post completely blames the Foreigner for being the victim of a head-but.

 

It amazes me how some people can be so blindly apologist for the abhorrent in which ‘some' people behave. 

 

 

However, it started, however the Russian stood his ground, however, much of a d!<k he was he was physically assaulted without any physical provocation. 

 

You have also failed to recognise that the Protest was held in a very public tourist area and speeches were made in English which were clearly designed to target the attention of foreigners. 

 

 

Wuvu2 - You’ve become such a Thai Apologist you have failed to recognises right from wrong and have blamed the victim of an assault for the assault. 

[SomchaiCNX]

5 hours ago, alianware said:

The lady, who talked to your daughter tried to help you but you ignore her. And you continue stayed there like a superman ! Why ?? 

 

If you live in Asian long time already and you dont know the basic rule "Never mix yourself into political matter" , than sorry to say that you are stupid and your fault.

Political is very sensitive matter and no farang has right to say anything !

Never challange anyone for political issue. Even local people won't dare to do so. Say sorry and GO from that place !.

Why did you stay there longer with your daughter ?? You have nothing lose there. Just GO out from the area, as people has shouted you to go already !!! 

So we strip all of their (Thai) voting rights in foreign countries to start with ok?  Some are  even voted into office. Yet some racist Thais start to complain when somebody in Thai Politics is born in another country or is look krung. A couple teacher without a work permit are a huge problem yet the 300.000 + illegal Thai in Korea alone are no problem.

[dunroaming]

Assuming that the Russian was the father of the young girl who was hanging on to him, there is no question that he should have walked away.  Apart from the fact that the girl would be traumatised by what was going on, he has a duty of care over her.  As any parent knows, you never put your child in harms way. 

[spoon1967]

Yes the Thai man was a bully and a brute, but we've seen that type many times, however, I would not be standing at any Thai rally, let alone with a child. 

 

If I had been walking past with or without my Thai child, I'd of ket walking.

 

BTW, I hope the Thai man goes to jail to assault a father while his child is standing there is the lowest of the low, total scum.

 

 

[SomchaiCNX]

4 hours ago, Neeranam said:

I've seen Asian looking people in political protests in the USA recently. 

And North Africans all over Europe, time we start to use the Thai system ????

 

[b2bme]

5 hours ago, alianware said:

The lady, who talked to your daughter tried to help you but you ignore her. And you continue stayed there like a superman ! Why ?? 

 

If you live in Asian long time already and you dont know the basic rule "Never mix yourself into political matter" , than sorry to say that you are stupid and your fault.

Political is very sensitive matter and no farang has right to say anything !

Never challange anyone for political issue. Even local people won't dare to do so. Say sorry and GO from that place !.

Why did you stay there longer with your daughter ?? You have nothing lose there. Just GO out from the area, as people has shouted you to go already !!! 

Alianware I respect your opinion even if I don't fully agree with you, that is part of what democracy is about.

It appears no one really knows what triggered this argument but violence is not the answer. Thai history demonstrates this and everyone needs to learn from history.

No one wants to see violence at any "peaceful" demonstration. How would the pro democracy demonstrators feel being head butted by the RTP or other factions opposed to the demonstration.

I agree foreigners should avoid getting involved in something they are not part of and agree in this case it would have been smarter to just walk away. Then again Narathiwat could have just walked away and left it alone as well. Perhaps he felt he had no option if it meant losing face.

I see Thais demonstrating in Germany but also notice your comment (Yes, but you are in other country with other rule and other culture. Dont live in other world with your whole culture. You must adapt yourself). Thais are free to voice their views and opinions in other democratic countries yet you seem opposed foreigners doing the same in Thailand.

Lets keep protests going for a better society that supports democracy and without violence.

[Oldie]

Let's hope such people never come to power.

[SomchaiCNX]

4 hours ago, alianware said:

But He is farang. Don't do something democratic which the local have been fighting since decade and isn't over. 

They are still in battle. Showing democratic opinion now is negligence. Even in a democratic country in asia. Never do that ! You will just bring yourself into stupid dangerous.

I sorry for you, stop your racist comments please.

 

[Wuvu2]

8 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Wuvu2 - You’ve become such a Thai Apologist you have failed to recognises right from wrong and have blamed the victim of an assault for the assault. 

No I'm not a Thai apologist. But I've been here for 20 years through many political machinations and I know that Farangs (especially with children in hand) have no place involving themselves in any kind of political activities. 

 

Besides - isnt' a Good Daddy rule that you remove your daughter from any scene at the first hint of danger?  

Edited November 9, 2020 by Wuvu2

[Jingthing]

23 minutes ago, nahkit said:

Can you enlighten us as to exactly how he would show himself to be pro Putin, pro authoritarianism and anti-democracy in a "non-verbal" way?

 

Did he do a mime? (Actually, I do find mime artists somewhat annoying but not enough to headbutt them).

 

You must be really good at charades if you can communicate pro Putin, pro authoritarianism and anti-democracy in a "non-verbal" way.

He appeared mocking. For the Thais this is very serious. I don't know what he said and neither do you. Not defending the violence. Just saying pay attention to where you are.

[Andrew65]

2 minutes ago, SomchaiCNX said:

And North Africans all over Europe, time we start to use the Thai system ????

 

...they're probably 2nd or 3rd generation American citizens.

How many farang Thai citizens are there in Thailand in comparison?

[Wuvu2]

40 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

How did he get involved? Tell us exactly what he did.

He butted his nose into a Thai political protest AND he brought his daughter. Anyone who's been here a long time knows two of the most important rules;  Never stick you nose into Thai politics, and never say anything but praise about the royal family. We're guests.

 

Why was he allowing his daughter to stand between him and the angry Thai guy? She was trying to protect Daddy. NEVER put your children in that position ????

[khunpa]

Both involved are clearly immature idiots!

Plain stupid to get involved in a Thai protest and even more stupid to bring a kid.

 

Equally as stupid to attack another person like that.

 

A clear show of Low-intelligence from both sides.

 

 

Edited November 9, 2020 by khunpa

[Oldie]

4 minutes ago, Wuvu2 said:

He butted his nose into a Thai political protest AND he brought his daughter. Anyone who's been here a long time knows two of the most important rules;  Never stick you nose into Thai politics, and never say anything but praise about the royal family. We're guests.

 

Why was he allowing his daughter to stand between him and the angry Thai guy? She was trying to protect Daddy. NEVER put your children in that position ????

I am sorry but this party claims to stand for democracy and if someone has a different opinion they use violence. Completely sick. Hopefully they don't punish me too for my statement here. 

[findlay13]

6 hours ago, chuang said:

Who in his right mind would bring his 10 years old kid to a protest demonstration and argued with the demonstraters.

Yep Arguing with Thais in Thailand at a demonstration and with your child along ?Not the smartest idea.It is their country  BTW.

[ChipButty]

3 minutes ago, Oldie said:

I am sorry but this party claims to stand for democracy and if someone has a different opinion they use violence. Completely sick. Hopefully they don't punish me too for my statement here. 

His version of democracy and if you dont agree he sticks the nut on you

[barney42bb]

That was the Thai Guys best shot ?... and The Russian Guy barely flinched.

 

Thai Guy lost a lot more than face here...Count himself lucky a few younger Russians not there to Cossack Dance on his face.

[findlay13]

6 hours ago, champers said:

The Russian gent kept his cool, his Thai assailant competely lost it and deserves to be charged with GBH. What caused the confrontation in the first place; anyone know?

I'd say sticking  a nose in where it shouldn't be  from the Russian side and the usual immaturity, from the Thai side. I'm sorry for the child.

 

[Benmart]

Many usual experts commenting, passing judgement and sentencing on something they did not witness. Oh, forgot the surrogate parenting comments.

[khunpa]

10 minutes ago, Oldie said:

I am sorry but this party claims to stand for democracy and if someone has a different opinion they use violence. Completely sick. Hopefully they don't punish me too for my statement here. 

99,9% of Thais have no idea about what democracy actually means or requires.

 

That’s why you see constant never-ending political problems and will keep doing so for years to come.

 

The reaction from the Thai guy is no surprise. When you don’t have the intelligence to debate, you fight. 

[JeffersLos]

22 minutes ago, Wuvu2 said:

He butted his nose into a Thai political protest AND he brought his daughter.

 

How did he butt his nose in? What did he say? What did he do?

[brewsterbudgen]

1 hour ago, Andrew65 said:

I know what you mean. However, I was there 10 years ago when they were shooting people in the streets.

 

Also, in about 2014?? There was an Indian national on the podium giving-out during the 'Reset' protests, he was very lucky not to be deported, and he'd lived in Thailand for a very long time.

Foreign (British) Embassies always advise their nationals to stay away from such things, physically and vocally.

Me too.  I remember 2010 well!  I always steer well clear of anything like that (I even stand up in the cinema when they play the Anthem) however I commend any foreigners who are prepared to join the "fight".

[JeffersLos]

13 minutes ago, findlay13 said:

Yep Arguing with Thais

 

How was he arguing? What did he say to them? Tell us the facts that you know. 

[NightSky]

Poor kid 

 

 

[Pheat123]

6 hours ago, alianware said:

The lady, who talked to your daughter tried to help you but you ignore her. And you continue stayed there like a superman ! Why ?? 

 

If you live in Asian long time already and you dont know the basic rule "Never mix yourself into political matter" , than sorry to say that you are stupid and your fault.

Political is very sensitive matter and no farang has right to say anything !

Never challange anyone for political issue. Even local people won't dare to do so. Say sorry and GO from that place !.

Why did you stay there longer with your daughter ?? You have nothing lose there. Just GO out from the area, as people has shouted you to go already !!! 

Could you please repost in English?

[JeffersLos]

57 minutes ago, Wuvu2 said:

He wasn't just passing by

 

Tell us how you know that?