Neo Pattaya: Project to transform resort into state the art metropolis begins - starting with Walking Street

[DUNROAMIN]

Pattaya will never be the same after the pandemic is over, tourists came because of the atmosphere and bar girls, cheap food, beer, entertainment. Changing to a clean, up market walking street will kill all before. Not to mention the high Barht. Tourism across the world is suffering with the pandemic. As long as all countries are insisting on 2 week quarantine, thats 4 weeks of quarantine in and out for most people. I would predict about 2024 things maybe back to normal.

[pepi2005]

That's a rebranding no one - really no one! - asked for.

 

Destroying a brand that flushed millions of visitors (and not to forget: tens of thousands of expats, quite a few of them quite wealthy...) into the city every year.

 

At the same time, the roads in the city remain on third-world level, only a few African cities of this size have worse roads than Pattaya, and the repair works on the roads NEVER STOPS!

Also, almost no green remaining, even Pratumnak Hill gets sold off and buried under more concrete in slices.????????????

 

Way to destroy the unique, world-renowned image and tourist magnetism of a city while not even doing the homework to provide safe roads.

Edited January 25, 2021 by pepi2005

[elgenon]

They cleaned up Khao San and that is thriving?

 

Take the soul out of a place and make it more popular? Fogettaboutit. Even Chinese tourists don't go to Walking Street to shop.

 

What exactly would you have to take from Bangkok to end up on the monorail in Pattaya? How many changes of transport? And they want to attract high-end tourists? High-end tourists would not want that hassle. So wrong-headed. I, myself, just take a private taxi. Get from one hotel to another easily. A real high-ender could hire a limo. But what exactly would be the attraction that would cause them to make the trip?

 

At first I though the headline was saying they were turning Pattaya into an art metropolis. Now that would be a great way to attract high-enders. Imagine if Walking Street was filled with artists. Well, a different type of artist from those in the past (smoking, darts, bananas, fish etc). 5555

 

The best Idea would combine go-gos with artist (real ones) studios. I would hang out there.

[DanielS]

2 hours ago, mikebell said:

A perfect neo-Pattaya would have a police force; no dogs; no haze; working taximeters; sidewalks; drains; AND '80 billion baht in public funds,' would be spent on the public.

Agree,  and maybee  they can help this people with some thousands from the 80 billions  baht public funds?

 

Pattaya’s Glory Hut AIDS hospice in dire need of water and food - Pattaya Mail

 

 

 

Edited January 25, 2021 by DanielS

[wilscoop]

23 hours ago, amexpat said:

If killing walking street is successful, maybe Las Vegas will eliminate gambling. 

Quite. Time for Rome to eradicate all ancient landmarks and rebrand as a luxury mall.

23 hours ago, amexpat said:

 

 

 

 

[connda]

The looks cheesy.  Looks like they are going retro 1960 Las Vegas style.

[Histavia]

22 hours ago, sweatalot said:

So they should fix just that and not touch what gave the city its special athmosphere

You do understand what I frastructure is?

 

Secondly in post Covid Thailand....there is no such thing as post Covid.

So the nature and demographics of tourism in Thailand is going to be different.

They will need to identify the differences and then work out what Thailand can sell in this new environment.

 

....and your comment of trying to ge back to the same as before really exemplifies the point I was trying make that their is littke or no evidence that neither Pattaya nor Thailand have the oeolle with ability to take up this opportunity and run eith it.... it needs both technical excellence and imagination....

[kingofthemountain]

2 hours ago, Histavia said:

They will need to identify the differences and then work out what Thailand can sell in this new environment.

Durian?

[Leaver]

On 1/24/2021 at 2:24 PM, Freigeist365 said:

Goodbye "Airport"... goodbye "Sugarbaby"... goodbye "Windmill"... I'll miss you ????

 

If this goes ahead, I guess the rents on Soi LK Metro will be increasing significantly in the future, which was the very reason many gogo's and bars started there in the first place, cheaper rent. 

 

Soi LK Metro will take over from Walking Street for the sex tourists.

 

Where will be the next location that bars and gogo's start up to avoid high rents that are cost prohibitive to business?  

 

[Daveyh]

All this development, reconstruction, new ideas & billions of Baht will take years to complete, hence giving those that have lost revenue due to COVID19 time. During this period people will generate & develop a new entertainment area to provide an income. It will be the same sort of entertainment we've enjoyed for years only at a different venue within the city.This will take very little time as Thai's are quick to pounce on an opportunity to make money & habits die hard ............. also an investment of billions of Baht won't be needed to provide a "night out to remember".......... fact.

Edited January 25, 2021 by Daveyh

[SupermarineS6B]

Singapore did the same years ago and destroyed all the character that it was famous for, then they realized what a miserable place they had turned it into and quickly set up the "Four floors of you know what" ...........  ( I suppose it could be called a refuge for wayward young ladies from all over SE Asia )  Couldn't call it what it really is of course, just like Pattaya and most of Thailand, just about everything in a skirt from Nong Khai to Songkhla can be bought for money and that includes the blokes as well.........   Truthfully it's going to be a hard to almost impossible task to get rid of Thailands reputation, and as we all know the leopard can't change its spots.......No matter how many shopping malls and food courts you build......  Nudge nudge wink wink, where's the house of ill repute ?    

[adammike]

18 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Where are all these stray dogs.... ? Didn't see any packs of 5000 or so snarling their way down Pattaya Klang, when I was in town yesterday shopping. 

They sleep during the day.

[nemo38]

The Chinese will decide how to build up Thailand and the rest of South East Asia. They will be the only people with any money. They just ignore Covid now. When you ignore Covid you have incredible growth potential.

 

China will only have a problem if the US manages to start a war. 

[jacko45k]

2 hours ago, adammike said:

They sleep during the day.

Oh, they are night crawlers. I haven't had an opportunity to be creeping around soi Buakhao after midnight for a few weeks now, but will keep an eye open and ear cocked for this pack. 

[morrobay]

18 hours ago, pepi2005 said:

That's a rebranding no one - really no one! - asked for.

 

Destroying a brand that flushed millions of visitors (and not to forget: tens of thousands of expats, quite a few of them quite wealthy...) into the city every year.

 

At the same time, the roads in the city remain on third-world level, only a few African cities of this size have worse roads than Pattaya, and the repair works on the roads NEVER STOPS!

Also, almost no green remaining, even Pratumnak Hill gets sold off and buried under more concrete in slices.????????????

 

Way to destroy the unique, world-renowned image and tourist magnetism of a city while not even doing the homework to provide safe roads.

So who is going to come ? There may not be much left for the previous groups. And the wealthy sure are not going to put up with what's noted in your third paragraph.  The chinese ?

[Gandtee]

14 hours ago, Histavia said:

You do understand what I frastructure is?

 

Secondly in post Covid Thailand....there is no such thing as post Covid.

So the nature and demographics of tourism in Thailand is going to be different.

They will need to identify the differences and then work out what Thailand can sell in this new environment.

 

....and your comment of trying to ge back to the same as before really exemplifies the point I was trying make that their is littke or no evidence that neither Pattaya nor Thailand have the oeolle with ability to take up this opportunity and run eith it.... it needs both technical excellence and imagination....

No! What is frastructure? It's certainly not English.

[Showtime]

On 1/24/2021 at 12:56 PM, Simons3 said:

the monorail could be good, the one in Las Vegas works very nicely and drops you inside the Casino's, never have to go out into the heat! going to be interesting what they plan to charge for a ticket, bet it won't be 10 baht ????. 

 

Have you ever been to LV?  The monorail goes behind the Casinos and is extremely far away from this strip.  In 4 words, it is a failure.

[Emdog]

Maybe Walking Street could be added to "World Heritage Site" list. Large part of attraction is it's seediness and chaos. You want a place you can take your kids? Try the rest of the city, fer chrissakes!

I stopped going to Singapore decades ago as old was squeezed out by malls and all that. Bland nondescript place that could be anywhere in the world. Not exotic, might as well be in Kansas.

I wish the powers that be could just take those brown envelopes and declare job done.

[Histavia]

5 hours ago, Gandtee said:

No! What is frastructure? It's certainly not 

Typo.......sadly the opportunity to edit is passed but I suspect someone  who cant work out a simple typo, couldn't follow the argument anyway.

[Histavia]

Can anyone point to the research that co forms the need for these "improvements"? Is there evidence of future demographic/customers for such a project. Do they really understand what infrastructure will be required.

As for the marine projects, have they even taken into account the depth of the bay and channels for boats and ships???

[Histavia]

Just now, Histavia said:

Can anyone point to the research that co forms the need for these "improvements"? Is there evidence of future demographic/customers for such a project. Do they really understand what infrastructure will be required.

As for the marine projects, have they even taken into account the depth of the bay and channels for boats and ships???

Maybe they're  just going to start dredging willy-nilly?

[TyJames]

On 1/24/2021 at 1:55 PM, ginjag said:

Will they choose this moment to bulldoze down ALL the illegal businesses built over the beach in Walking Street ???

Yes Please, all that money spent over MANY YEARS, on countless court cases and multi judgements to tear them down but somehow they cannot get it done.

They are all illegal on the Seaward side of walking Street so they should have no part in any future plans. 

[Histavia]

26 minutes ago, TyJames said:

Yes Please, all that money spent over MANY YEARS, on countless court cases and multi judgements to tear them down but somehow they cannot get it done.

They are all illegal on the Seaward side of walking Street so they should have no part in any future plans. 

I believe there are some kind of squatters' right involved. Most development there was before proper land mapping and ownership took place too.

The other problem is what remains when / destruction took place....beach? Mud, drains or another inappropriate built monstrosity that destabilise  the coast even more?

[jacko45k]

3 hours ago, Histavia said:

I believe there are some kind of squatters' right involved. Most development there was before proper land mapping and ownership took place too.

And I thought it was all illegal construction as the beaches are public property.

[Abmong]

On 1/24/2021 at 11:59 AM, nausea said:

Night City here we come:

 

More like Waterfront 2077 the Abandonned City

[Histavia]

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

And I thought it was all illegal construction as the beaches are public property.

I think if you look at how Thai law and enforcement works, you'll soon realise that nothing is that simple. It was only about 20 to 30 years ago that the country began surveying property and land use so any dispute over land has first to define exactly which land they are talking about....than they have to decide on ownership. Similar scandals have happened in Phuket and Samui....strangely enough the same family keeps getting involved..../

[Histavia]

Now is a good time to get infrastructure done in any tourist town....however you need a coherent and scientifically proven plan before you start....

[Rodbayne94]

This is adult fun redlight environment, Pattaya city and koh larn Walking Street are leisure

[redwood1]

19 hours ago, Histavia said:

I believe there are some kind of squatters' right involved. Most development there was before proper land mapping and ownership took place too.

The other problem is what remains when / destruction took place....beach? Mud, drains or another inappropriate built monstrosity that destabilise  the coast even more?

 

Well from their plans it looks like the ocean side buildings will be staying...Sort of....

That is after they chop the ends of the longer buildings off and build a walkway on the water around them..........

I cant figure out the purpose of this hair brained idea......

Walking street is for well you know WALKING.....Why build another walkway to walk on?

 

Cutting off the ends of those buildings will destroy those businesses...

 

All this needless busybody stuff they are planning reminds me of the Central Festival Food Court.......

From the first day it opened it was packed....High Season, Low Season, No Season that food court was doing a roaring trade....

I would say it was the most successful eating establishment in all of Pattaya and possibly all of Thailand... That place was a money printing machine.....

But outrageous success could not be left well enough alone.....

They felt the need to fix what was not broken and make it upscale and hi-so friendly......

After the remodel the food court has lost I would guess 95% of the business they had before.....

 

Walking Street could learn something here.......

 

Edited January 27, 2021 by redwood1

[sharecropper]

I wouldn't be surprised if the gazillion Baht budget to be misspent on rebranding Pattaya as "Neo Pattaya" is all taken up with this one tangible expression of it. I'd love to see how much this 'make-over' cost in the accounts....