Efforts to Reduce Field Burning, Smog

 

 

BANGKOK, Jan 28 (TNA) — The Agriculture and Cooperatives Minister ordered subordinates to cope with field burning and promote alternatives to replace it in order to reduce hazardous smog.

 

In response to the order from Minister Chalermchai Sri-on, the Department of Agricultural Extension is campaigning against field burning and demonstrating environment-friendly ways to handle farm waste.

 

The department advised farmers to plow farmland to cover agricultural waste by using machines that it is supplying.

 

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Well it is raining black soot smuts from sugar cane burning at the moment in Lopburi

5 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

In response to the order from Minister Chalermchai Sri-on, the Department of Agricultural Extension is campaigning against field burning and demonstrating environment-friendly ways to handle farm waste.

Hang on? Two days ago we were told it was being banned and huge fines for burning fields and now it is a promotional campaign?

I applaud the environmentally friendly suggestions, though I suspect there aren't enough machines in the country to supply all the farmers, so don't expect that smog to go away any time soon.

Yawn.....

 

Rinse and repeat.

 

 

24 minutes ago, Toany said:

Well it is raining black soot smuts from sugar cane burning at the moment in Lopburi

and in Ratchaburi , same every year with the same outcome every year . Suppose that keeps the Agriculture and Cooperatives Minister in work for another year.

28 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

Efforts to Reduce Field Burning, Smog

 

In frantic preparation for the "sexy tours" TAT governor Yuthasak so gleefully announced?

 

 

A fag in the field and sit back with a beer or hard graft ? Not a good sell

22 minutes ago, JAFO said:

Yawn.....

 

Rinse and repeat.

 

 

Yeah. For a couple generations.

 

Rich Thai rhetoric.

If they were serious about stopping the sugarcane burning at the least, they should advise the sugarcane factories that if they buy any sugarcane that has been burnt, the fines would be so heavy they would have to close down, but we know that ain't gonna happen, this is the land of smiles, where lots of envelopes change hands day in, day out, it's called me for me, and you for you.

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

The department advised farmers to plow farmland to cover agricultural waste by using machines that it is supplying.

 

So it's not a Public Service Announcement it's an advertisement?

47 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

Efforts to Reduce Field Burning, Smog

 

have totally failed.

Have the sugarcane factories take in the entire unburned sugarcane plant including the dry leaves that get stripped and burned in the fields. They could use additional machinery to strip the dry leaves and put them to some use like power generation. The government could subsidize this to improve air quality for the kingdom.

15 minutes ago, KeeTua said:

Have the sugarcane factories take in the entire unburned sugarcane plant including the dry leaves that get stripped and burned in the fields. They could use additional machinery to strip the dry leaves and put them to some use like power generation. The government could subsidize this to improve air quality for the kingdom.

That's a great idea. Real thinking outside the box.

 

And in addition, ensure that the factories reject each and every consignment that has been burned prior to harvesting. No ifs, no buts and no payment.

2 hours ago, Toany said:

Well it is raining black soot smuts from sugar cane burning at the moment in Lopburi

I do  know where you are  Lopburi you are ,but where I am burning is down by 80% at least ,one field nearby  was burnt  last week ,two days ago come home after dark I could see in the distance a red glow .

Most cane is now cut by machine ,no black snow now for a year. 

2 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The department advised farmers to plow farmland to cover agricultural waste by using machines that it is supplying

Said by someone who has no knowledge of agriculture trying to climb the promotion ladder ,does he know how many cane farmers they are and how many machines that will be needed, by the sounds of it the machine will be a set of disc harrows ?that would cover the waste ,it would cost the government a fair bit. 

Or someone doing the translation from Thai  lost the plot .

Yet another dumb idea by our intrepid government. 

And of course he is wearing a mask that is totally ineffective and not designed to protect against air pollution (not to mention protection from any you-name-it-virus or bacteria).

12 hours ago, KeeTua said:

Have the sugarcane factories take in the entire unburned sugarcane plant including the dry leaves that get stripped and burned in the fields. They could use additional machinery to strip the dry leaves and put them to some use like power generation. The government could subsidize this to improve air quality for the kingdom.

They are already doing this around Buriram area. The residue from sugar cane harvesting is collected up for biomass.

11 hours ago, kickstart said:

I do  know where you are  Lopburi you are ,but where I am burning is down by 80% at least ,one field nearby  was burnt  last week ,two days ago come home after dark I could see in the distance a red glow .

Most cane is now cut by machine ,no black snow now for a year. 

Not to mention the rice stubble burning! 204 aqi in lampang presently. Is that down by 80 percent? Next two months it will be even worse. ????

Amazing that the authorities can shut down the countries' economy, major cities, and make effective sweeping decrees for the "pandemic".

 

Yet, when it comes to massive causes of most respiratory disease in this country; smog, NOx fumes, annual slash-burn farming practises, etc., it is totally powerless to prevent this..

13 hours ago, KeeTua said:

Have the sugarcane factories take in the entire unburned sugarcane plant including the dry leaves that get stripped and burned in the fields. They could use additional machinery to strip the dry leaves and put them to some use like power generation. The government could subsidize this to improve air quality for the kingdom.

I think your last sentence is the cruncher. Just as the gov. won't help farmers pay for crop rotation alternatives (to burning) so I think probably they would not give subsidies to the cane plants either. Thus the burning will continue.

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The department advised farmers to plow farmland to cover agricultural waste by using machines that it is supplying.

 

Fortunately we do not have sugarcane plantations in our region east of Sakon Nakhon. However what I have noticed is that there has been quite an increase in the number of farmers 'plowing in' the stubble after harvesting, rather than burning off.

 

It's quite normal now for me to see a tractor or two working the land when I go for out for my morning walk. And with the air quality reading 'satisfactory' according to Air4Thai.com I can breath deep and really enjoy. So that's what I'm off to do right now. 

 

So the word is getting through. What's needed is the financial incentive to encourage farmers to cooperate. Training might also be useful too.

Thailand has firmly entrenched itself as one of the most polluted countries on the planet and has well earned its new tourist slogan - TT LOS - Toxic Thailand Land of Smog.  Every year we reach apocalyptic pollution levels for months and then every year we hear the same tired old pledges to reduce burning, fix vehicles, commands being sent down the useless chain of command.  For the price of one Chinese made submarine you can buy 4000 new crop clearing tractors.  Burning persists despite the empty tired old rhetoric.  Ill believe it when I see it.  Meanwhile we, like many, are making plans to exit.  You cant buy good health.      

9 minutes ago, Natai Beach said:

I thought you were Aussie? 
 

Pot, kettle, black .

 

Envelopes? 
 

There is a good reason they burn it. 
Here is an Aussie explaining why they burn it in Australia. The same reason they burn it in Thailand.  

Burdekin snow the locals call it. 
 

As the flames begin to rise metres tall, ash gets blown across towns throughout the Burdekin.

"It's called Burdekin snow," Joe said.

"It's black stuff that comes from the fire and it goes all over the cars."

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually pretty much like you, Aussie Greek, from Sydney, but more hanhom ????

 

The above said, I suppose we should be grateful Thailand stopped using pesticides in 2005:

 

https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/business-law/ban-toxic-mercury-looms-sugar-cane-farming-australia-still-has-way-go

9 minutes ago, Jimbo2014 said:

Thailand has firmly entrenched itself as one of the most polluted countries on the planet and has well earned its new tourist slogan - TT LOS - Toxic Thailand Land of Smog.  Every year we reach apocalyptic pollution levels for months and then every year we hear the same tired old pledges to reduce burning, fix vehicles, commands being sent down the useless chain of command.  For the price of one Chinese made submarine you can buy 4000 new crop clearing tractors.  Burning persists despite the empty tired old rhetoric.  Ill believe it when I see it.  Meanwhile we, like many, are making plans to exit.  You cant buy good health.      

Your health IS your wealth 

16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The Agriculture and Cooperatives Minister ordered subordinates to cope with field burning and promote alternatives to replace it in order to reduce hazardous smog

It takes one memo to every acting governor...

One fire in your province and you're fired ! [excuse the pun]

16 hours ago, KeeTua said:

Have the sugarcane factories take in the entire unburned sugarcane plant including the dry leaves that get stripped and burned in the fields. They could use additional machinery to strip the dry leaves and put them to some use like power generation. The government could subsidize this to improve air quality for the kingdom.

This is exactly what has been happening in Mauritius for several decades.

Burning cane makes it easier to cut. Don't blame the processors. Make it easier for farmers to use machines through collectives.

18 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

If they were serious about stopping the sugarcane burning at the least, they should advise the sugarcane factories that if they buy any sugarcane that has been burnt, the fines would be so heavy they would have to close down, but we know that ain't gonna happen, this is the land of smiles, where lots of envelopes change hands day in, day out, it's called me for me, and you for you.

THEY DON'T BURN THE SUGARCANE ,THEY BURN THE WASTE . 

8 minutes ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

THEY DON'T BURN THE SUGARCANE ,THEY BURN THE WASTE . 

AND THERE I WAS........

 

 

 

Whatever they are doing it ain't working in Chiang Mai area; really bad the last few days and a terrible stench in the air this morning.  Of course; talk never cured anything !