Thai health officials skeptical about vaccine passports

[Mr Meeseeks]

4 hours ago, realfunster said:

I think we should count our blessings that we are in a country with a low level of infections and deaths and limited impacts on day to day life.

Tell that to the millions of Thais left unemployed and the tens of thousands of small business owners that rely on tourism for income.

 

I'm sure they will be overjoyed to hear that it has only has a limited impact on their day to day lives. 

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, LomSak27 said:

 

"If you don't think too good, don't think too much"  T. Williams. Make it your mantra.

 

 

Very good advice I'll see how it goes!

[Mr Meeseeks]

2 hours ago, bluesea said:

THe Book in the photo International  Certificate Vaccine is recognised Worldwide and is issued by WHO at the Snake Farm in Bangkok.

The Snake Farm offer many Vaccines at a very very affordable price.

 

It's the Thai Red Cross building next to the snake farm on Lumphini in Bangkok. 

 

Cheapest yellow fever vaccinations for travelling to Africa, private hospitals will rip you a new one for those vacs.

[stigar]

On 2/9/2021 at 11:13 AM, flyingtlger said:

Sounds like there may be a little collusion between health officials and the hotels that provide the ASQ?

 

Yeah..they will start accept vaccineserificate rigth away when the chinese start coming.

[billd766]

2 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

How about a stamp into the traveller‘s passport by the passport issuing agency instead? One booklet less and definitely more secure than those booklets - specially in a country of c(o)unterfeits like .....

For expats would that mean returning to your home country, and then spending an enormous amount of time and money trying to return to Thailand?

[Nanaplaza666]

9 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

 

Wrong - if the UK new channels are correct. From what i hearing the UK, it protects against severe symptoms leading to death, but has less effect against meek or mild symptoms.

 

It's very telling that many people put down the vaccine passport, without coming up with feasible other solutions other than complete country shutdown forever. Yes the virus will mutate and potentially get round certain vaccines  - I think we can all accept that, but at some point you have to take some 'minimal risk' and open the planet up or you may as well just give up.

 

 

I agree with you , just open up and take the risk . Scientists are saying that the normal flu is for 90% gone and that covid has come in it's place . Covid being a bit stronger needs a vaccine same as what people are getting now ones a year (the flu shot) . The whole world is going crazy with it's shutdowns and whatever . Ok people are dying but nr's say that in 2019 very little nr's of people died of the normal flu compared to the years before so the reason why they are saying that a lot of people died because of covid is that the year before the nr's where very low compared to normal . But actualy the nr's of covid deaths compared to flu deaths in the years before 2019 compared to 2020 covid are almost the same . And i didn't see them locking down the world for the normal flu . Ok maybe in the beginning covid hit hard but now almost no people are dying from it anymore (still are but that happened during normal flu season as well but you never hear anything about those nr's normally because that was counted as normal) the human body already started to evolve against covid that's why less people are dying nowadays not because of the vaccine because before the vaccine the nr's went down already .The powers in charge just try to scare the people more and more with their british strain , african strain whatever strain it's all THE SAME COVID it just mutates and the human body evolves against that . The world should just open back up again and let people get on with their lives because these lockdowns and whatever are destroying peoples lives more then Covid does .

[PGSan]

15 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

I wouldn't mind adding one to my collection of Tattoos

A 7-Eleven advert, or only FamilyMart?

[DaveK68]

I still want to know what happened to all of the terrorists.

[PGSan]

4 hours ago, Billybaroo said:

The Vaccine certificate will be issued by the administering country.

A single country?  Which one? 

[djuiiy]

>Thai health officials skeptical about vaccine passports
I think we all know whats coming...

Edited February 9, 2021 by djuiiy

[D M G]

What is the problem with self-quarantine? 

– It’s enforceable by both manual and modern means.
– It has an immediate impact on the economy with a limited danger of spreading of the virus.
– It can be rolled out to select groups: the Retired, Employed, Educator, etc.
– It’s a Win/Win for the Government, the unemployed locals and the disgruntled foreigner.

I have not heard a legitimate objection or discussion. This should be questioned, analyzed, addressed.

[LukKrueng]

15 hours ago, anchadian said:

If this vaccination passport is not adopted, travelers will still need to do the 14 days quarantine.

 

Again, it's all about money. 

 

 

No, it's not. Other countries have also come to understanding that the vaccine is not magical and vaccinated people can still spread the virus and require quarantine

[bermondburi]

17 hours ago, Antiparovian said:

Easily forgeable. Need a Bar or QR code linked to the vaccination.

 

 

Already in my country of residence. 

[LukKrueng]

10 hours ago, Soikhaonoiken said:

So what would you suggest, or wait 5 plus years until the vaccine has truly been tested, agree the vaccine has been fast tracted to slow down the death rate around the World, or would you rather see millions more die, and World economy collapse. 

No, just accept the fact that this virus is here to stay, just like the winter flu and learn to live with that. Go back to the old normal, vaccinate those who are at risk groups and those who want. Otherwise we'll see what so many horror movies show us about future societies that are effected by unbeatable virus and the creation of "clean" cities ruled by dictators and kept "clean", and those infected being thrown outside the walls. 

[Captain Monday]

1 hour ago, Suradit69 said:

There already exists a World Health Organization approved vaccination booklet that was accepted by countries around the world as proof of vaccination against such things as Yellow Fever and Cholera and as a record of other vaccinations. Why it cannot be amended and employed to include recognized Covid-19 vaccinations remains a mystery.

 

As to evidence of tiny grains of intelligence demonstrated in reaction to the pandemic, Thailand has been way ahead of some major players in Farang Utopia world in terms of intelligence.

 

 

 

I have one too. White color cards are handed out in USA for now for covid injections. Good for recording information for yourself and your MD. Already being faked as well as covid-19 test certificates.

Not instilling enough confidence to help return to large scale international mobility travel passports being developed by IATA have nothing to do with a bit of paper or easily faked rubber stamps and stickers.

 

 https://www.iata.org/en/programs/passenger/travel-pass/

[Andrew65]

16 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

So even being chipped wouldn't work, I mean every shop has a bar code scanner, just bar code each and  .  I wouldn't mind adding one to my collection of Tattoos, as long as I get a royalty payment.

 

Traces of sarcasm and a lack of judgement went into this post and I have not even had a drink yet

If anywhere in Khao San Road is still open, they've probably already started 'chipping' people - 500 Baht!????

[mikecha]

Always had a travel vaxine book   has been around years 

they put the sticker in the book sign it and stamp and date this vaxine nr is traceable on its charge number 

it is issued by the ministery of health

[cdemundo]

3 hours ago, Henryford said:

I thought the manufacturers had admitted that the vaccines do not stop one from getting Covid or transmitting it, just reduces the severity of the illness. So having the jab means nothing if you visit an unvaccinated country.

Not exactly right.

The vaccines do protect against illness which is what the trials were designed to test.

Whether they prevent transmission is unknown for most of them because the trials did not test for this.

I believe only AstroZeneca/Oxford has tested for preventing transmission and seems to provide some protection.

 

[cdemundo]

1 hour ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

the human body already started to evolve against covid that's why less people are dying nowadays not because of the vaccine because before the vaccine the nr's went down already .

Also, a guy got bit by a radioactive spider and now he can spin sticky webby stuff and climb buildings and swing around real cool and fight crime.

[rioD]

A vaccine is not a cure nor is it an immunization. The vaccinations are merely designed to reduce the risk and or impact if and when exposed.  A healthy body and immune system do the exact same things

[jomtienisgood]

18 hours ago, Antiparovian said:

Easily forgeable. Need a Bar or QR code linked to the vaccination.

 

 

Not correct, as they apply the Sicker from each separate vaccine onto it.... 1 vaccine = 1 label.... 

[stigar]

im surprised of some postings here...seems alot of medical eksperts..pls apply for a job in WHO!!!

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, DaveK68 said:

I still want to know what happened to all of the terrorists.

don't you mean Theorist's?  They are out buying more tinfoil to make hats out of.

[richard_smith237]

1 minute ago, stigar said:

im surprised of some postings here...seems alot of medical eksperts..pls apply for a job in WHO!!!

 

I think you are on the wrong website....  you perhaps need the news on a site which isn’t designed for people to voice their opinions and post comments. 

 

Just incase you are confused - this site is specifically designed for discussion and opinion - many people have dumb comments, many people have excellent comments -

[thetravelbee]

Hope the thai authorities will not fall for this absurdity. Quarantine is necessary and will still be necessary for a while longer. Although it could and should be reduced to a 7 days isolation after 3 consecutive negative tests. Ie 72 hrs prior flight, upon arrival and 3 days in. In my view, it would be much preferable and safe to ease the measures gradually, at least until sufficient Thais are vaccinated. People (tourist) mays start responding to that.  But that is only in my view of course. 

[newnative]

    I can see why they are against it since they have been so slow and have not administered any vaccines to Thai citizens and likely won't until June at the very earliest.  

[ThailandRyan]

11 minutes ago, thetravelbee said:

Hope the thai authorities will not fall for this absurdity. Quarantine is necessary and will still be necessary for a while longer. Although it could and should be reduced to a 7 days isolation after 3 consecutive negative tests. Ie 72 hrs prior flight, upon arrival and 3 days in. In my view, it would be much preferable and safe to ease the measures gradually, at least until sufficient Thais are vaccinated. People (tourist) mays start responding to that.  But that is only in my view of course. 

That is exactly how the Philippines is doing quarantine 7 days.

[Jonathan Swift]

19 hours ago, YetAnother said:

maybe there exists the tiniest grain of intelligence in them after all

As opposed to most of the commenters here?

[gavinski]

Thai govt will have to do something once the vaccines start rolling out across the world, otherwise the tourism industry in places like Phuket will suffer even more. I hope they will.  I so much want to return on a Retirement Visa but not while the  quarantine is on and not while not much is open .

[fakser]

17 hours ago, anchadian said:

If this vaccination passport is not adopted, travelers will still need to do the 14 days quarantine.

 

Again, it's all about money. 

 

 

The income from quarantine is only a fraction of percent of the loss of income from the wrecked tourism catastrophe