Prohibition in Thailand, Would it Work?

[Neeranam]

I was born in a dry town, Kirkintilloch, Scotland, and heard many stories of how alcohol had ruined the place before my time. 

I spent time in a dry state of India, Odissa, which incidentally had govt. 'baang' shops selling ganja and opium???? I never saw any trouble at all there, compared to where I had come from, Leith, which had lots of crime due to the devil drink. 

I feel Thailand would benefit greatly if there was an alcohol ban. Less deaths on the road, less drunken tourists. 

What do you think? 

 

 

[jvs]

Are you drunk?

 

[WineOh]

I wouldn't be able to handle this place without a drink.

Ban booze and I'm emptying my Bank account and heading for Eastern Europe! 

[CharlieH]

Too ingrained into the culture, never gonna happen.

[Neeranam]

16 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Too ingrained into the culture, never gonna happen.

Good point but it was more ingrained in Kirkintilloch's culture. I believe there are pubs there now though and they are catching up for lost time. 

Maybe you've heard of Duggan's Dew of Kirkintilloch? 86% proof!

 

 

 

[jvs]

16 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

Too ingrained into the culture, never gonna happen.

Along with driving habits,corruption and dirty air but i like living here!

 

[KarenBravo]

There's already a prohibition against Kratom and Ya Bah.

Has that worked?

There's your answer.

[Neeranam]

26 minutes ago, jvs said:

Are you drunk?

 

Nah, never touched it in over 20 years ????

Many people did leave Kirkintilloch though, including Rita Cowan, who became the "mother of Japanese Whisky".

 

[Neeranam]

4 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

There's already a prohibition against Kratom and Ya Bah.

Has that worked?

There's your answer.

Kratom and Ya Ba ironically don't cause as many deaths and problems as alcohol does. 

India does pretty well in this department. 

[KarenBravo]

Just now, Neeranam said:

Kratom and Ya Ba ironically don't cause as many deaths and problems as alcohol does. 

India does pretty well in this department. 

True, but that has nothing to do with the question you asked, now does it?

Do you know how many people die in India from tainted boot-leg alcohol each year? It's in the hundreds.

[kickstart]

The government would never let it happen ,they would lose too much tax revenue .

And my few cattle we rear  ,we and others feed the by-product of the beer brewing industry ,spent barley grains ,they would not be happy if we had no brewers grains. 

[cmarshall]

The sale of alcoholic beverages in the US was prohibited by the 18th Amendment to the Constitution in 1919 until repealed by the 21st Amendment in 1933.  During that period alcoholic consumption achieved a peak that was not surpassed until the 1950's and the Italian mafia, which had previously operated primarily in immigrant Italian communities was establish as a national organization which it remains to this day.

Americans all know this history.  I have never in my lifetime heard any American express support for a revived prohibition of alcohol.

 

[ramrod711]

I think prohibition in Thailand would work slightly less well than it did in America.

[Lacessit]

No argument alcohol is harmful. It has been a Class 1 carcinogen since 1989. Because it also removes inhibitions, it contributes to a lot of violence in many societies.

Having said that, there is no chemical the human species will not abuse in search of oblivion or euphoria. America has spent billions in a war on drugs, to no effect. Nations that have legalised drug use find reduced crime rates are the result.

The key to preventing abuse of legal and illegal drugs lies in effective education about responsible use, and the risks involved. Good luck with that in Thailand.

[BenDeCosta]

For me an alcohol ban would be the straw that broke the donkey's back. I'd be gone to another country. I'm not a big drinker but having the option removed for me would be just another annoyance.

But it won't happen because the elite Thai families make too much money from it. Plus the not so good looking bar girls wouldn't ever get any customers. Not going to happen.

[Patong2021]

38 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Kratom and Ya Ba ironically don't cause as many deaths and problems as alcohol does. 

India does pretty well in this department. 

You really do not know that, especially for yaba.  Because yaba is restricted we  often do not see the full impact of the injury or economic damage.  Also you ignore the user profile with yaba being  targeted at the young and the low wage worker. It is very cheap.   People use alcohol rather than yaba because it is accessible. If yaba was as accessible, it would be used much more because it is so cheap.  India has a serious alcohol problem in many communities. Is it not true that India has one of the fastest growing alcohol markets?  Maybe BBC visits different India than you, yes?  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52640266

In an ideal world there would be no alcohol or yaba, but twe do not live in kland of make believe. Banning alcohol would not work. The removal of controlled alcohol would see a flood of home brew poisoning and killing. Because this is Thailand, it would be a  few short months before the country looked like prohibition era Chicago with gangland shootings. Thailand had a violent drug war that nearly saw the drug cartels take over the government and we would see the  same with the  alcohol gang. No need for discussion because prohibition will not happen.  

[Rookiescot]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Good point but it was more ingrained in Kirkintilloch's culture. I believe there are pubs there now though and they are catching up for lost time. 

Maybe you've heard of Duggan's Dew of Kirkintilloch? 86% proof!

 

 

 

The Thais would simply make their own hooch. Along with the associated health risks there would also have to be a massive loss in tax revenue for the Thai government.

Never going to happen. 

[Neeranam]

16 minutes ago, BenDeCosta said:

Plus the not so good looking bar girls wouldn't ever get any customers. Not going to happen.

Lol, like the government are going to consult 35-year-old Noi from Buriram and 37-year-old Lek from Si Saket.

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, Rookiescot said:

The Thais would simply make their own hooch. Along with the associated health risks there would also have to be a massive loss in tax revenue for the Thai government.

Never going to happen. 

Well they make Lao khao already, great stuff if you are an alkie. 

[BenDeCosta]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Well they make Lao khao already, great stuff if you are an alkie. 

Yes if you don't mind the stinking hangovers and the inevitable blindness that will result from drinking that rotten stuff. I heard of many locals beating up their wives after drinking too much of it.

[Rookiescot]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Well they make Lao khao already, great stuff if you are an alkie. 

Distillation of alcohol is not a complicated process. Anyone can do it. Indeed I like to think my efforts would produce something better than Irish whiskey. ???? 

[onebir]

22 minutes ago, BenDeCosta said:

For me an alcohol ban would be the straw that broke the donkey's back.

What broke the camel's?

[Neeranam]

9 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

You really do not know that, especially for yaba.  Because yaba is restricted we  often do not see the full impact of the injury or economic damage.  Also you ignore the user profile with yaba being  targeted at the young and the low wage worker. It is very cheap.   People use alcohol rather than yaba because it is accessible. If yaba was as accessible, it would be used much more because it is so cheap.  India has a serious alcohol problem in many communities. Is it not true that India has one of the fastest growing alcohol markets?  Maybe BBC visits different India than you, yes?  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52640266

In an ideal world there would be no alcohol or yaba, but twe do not live in kland of make believe. Banning alcohol would not work. The removal of controlled alcohol would see a flood of home brew poisoning and killing. Because this is Thailand, it would be a  few short months before the country looked like prohibition era Chicago with gangland shootings. Thailand had a violent drug war that nearly saw the drug cartels take over the government and we would see the  same with the  alcohol gang. No need for discussion because prohibition will not happen.  

Ya Ma and booze are opposites. The only reason one takes one is to allow the other one, ie reduce withdrawal or increase drinking time. There are many legal stimulants like caffeine and M150.

[BenDeCosta]

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Distillation of alcohol is not a complicated process. Anyone can do it.  

Yes if you've got the right equipment and know what you're doing. And this is Thailand so it will be a ramshackle affair made in the cheapest way possible and will probably end up containing both benzene and methanol as well as many other nasty congeners that will make you wish you were dead when you wake up.

[onebir]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Maybe you've heard of Duggan's Dew of Kirkintilloch? 86% proof!

Only Tullamore Dew...

wait, is this a Dewish consipiracy?

[Rookiescot]

13 minutes ago, BenDeCosta said:

Yes if you've got the right equipment and know what you're doing. And this is Thailand so it will be a ramshackle affair made in the cheapest way possible and will probably end up containing both benzene and methanol as well as many other nasty congeners that will make you wish you were dead when you wake up.

Indeed yes if you have little control over basics like temperature, pressure and cleanliness you will get garbage out. Could probably run your car on it so there is a saving anyway.

[Neeranam]

25 minutes ago, BenDeCosta said:

Yes if you've got the right equipment and know what you're doing. And this is Thailand so it will be a ramshackle affair made in the cheapest way possible and will probably end up containing both benzene and methanol as well as many other nasty congeners that will make you wish you were dead when you wake up.

Sounds a bit like Chang beer when it was 8.6% in the 90s.

[Neeranam]

30 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Distillation of alcohol is not a complicated process. Anyone can do it. Indeed I like to think my efforts would produce something better than Irish whiskey. ???? 

Come on you know only one country produce real whisky; some countries can't even spell it correctly.

[Rookiescot]

8 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Sounds a bit like Chang beer when it was 8.6% in the 90s.

Any rice beer is a can of headache. 

[poohy]

legalize the water pipe "shisha' then you can   ban alcohol would be fine by me.... thai beers S**T anyway

Oh a nice drop of red wine would also be acceptable

ok will make exception the peasants can keep their lao cao