Those in charge have no plan and no clue. Whack a mole is not going to do it. As long as they remain so will the fiascos with wave after wave. Covid will eventually go away but the road out will be long and painful if things continue as they are. The way out will be in spite of them not thanks to them if they keep spraying water pistols at a forest fire. At this point the leadership has gotten better at deflecting blame then they ever will be at solving problems. My love of Thailand and Thai people remain as strong as ever. But it's being crushed from the inside right now so I will stay away until the problem resolves itself one way or another.

1 minute ago, Excel said:

And that must be strictly enforced for it to be effective. If the Thai military won't do it because it impacts their pals freedoms, then ask the Chinese, they will sort this riff raff out and very quickly.

For all their faults, the Thai government are not as bad as the dictatorship in China.

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

Nice to see you admit that they are not true artifacts but anomalies that are not good at all.  Testing here as I have been saying is filled with flaws, and if they would randomly test in the communities they might get ahead of this, however, they are not concerned it appears and only wish to lock down construction sites and workers camps.  This is not just in those locations.  Are they really that ignorant to see that they are only large areas, while there are plenty of smaller areas spreading outwards like tentacles.  

what is it with the sad emoji for almost every post on this thread - is it a stuck key or someone that needs genuine help - and I am being serious not slating off - nobody could possibly be that sad without needing external support

1 minute ago, brewsterbudgen said:

For all their faults, the Thai government are not as bad as the dictatorship in China.

Well that is only your opinion so as you are neither Thai nor Chinese.  For a true opinion then you should ask the average Thai of their opinion about their government and then ask the average Chinese about theirs. Anything else is just bias and opinion.

4 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Neither testing or vaccination will reduce the number of cases to any great extent. The numbers have certainly taken a turn for the worst recently but I am not surprised.

We had electricity cut on Sunday(maintenance) and went over to Bang Saen for the afternoon. The beach was absolutely packed, even more so than a pre pandemic holiday weekend. Stretched from the old fishing pier towards Sri Ratch right along to the Ang Sila roundabout.

If the people have given up on the precautions then we are in for a bit of a rough ride.

Testing is the number one tool to use, without that then zero of the other tools work effectively. Without more testing then new clusters will not be found allowing the virus to spread further and the deaths to multiply further. 

 

Complacency in people as per your example can easily be stopped with some of the other tools available from the government but who are failing miserably to implement them.

3 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

For all their faults, the Thai government are not as bad as the dictatorship in China.

Whatever their form of government which are highly opinionated, China did much better than most developed countries in managing infections and deaths from COVID-19 and turnaround their economy. 

1 hour ago, Swimfan said:

A full lockdown of Bangkok and provinces with high case loads

nobody wants that and all that comes with it but they are quickly running out of options - some hard choices are going to have to be made and soon

 

I remember last year stuck in my room for weeks with curfews at night

36 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Not exactly rocket science and been repeated here multiple times, you know what needs to be done but remain a skeptic as you admit.

This is how I read this interaction

 

Salesman:  Wow, it's really coming down out there

 

Brewster: (inside of an umbrella store) I need to leave but don't want to get wet. If only there was something I could use to keep me dry

1 hour ago, Marvin Hagler said:

1. As long as they continue this completely false narrative that cases are only happening in workers camps and factories then Thailand is completely doomed. It is everywhere now.

 

2. The real numbers are likely 10 times higher than stated if not more. You cannot effectively monitor and then build approprate measures if you are denying reality in this way.

 

3. Stop calling them clusters. This is throughout the whole of the community now and can no longer be classified as clusters. Again this continuos denial of reality only makes the issue worse.

 

4. There is no way in gods good earth that this is only focuses on Bangkok. It’s just that Bangkok is where the most testing is happening. In places like Chang Mai and Koran and Udon Thani tests may be in the hundreds or even tens per day.

 

5. The people in charge are in completely over their heads and have absolutely no idea what they are doing or what to do next. 
 

 

a perfect summary 

44 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Out of interest how did they know she arrived back in Kalasin. 

the number on the bus

It looks like prison is the safest place to be.

5 minutes ago, smedly said:

the number on the bus

I never travel in buses. 

So when I land udon Thani airport (example) who do I turn myself in to?

Sheriff?

So your saying that buses coming into Isan are checked with roadblock?

24 minutes ago, smedly said:

what is it with the sad emoji for almost every post on this thread - is it a stuck key or someone that needs genuine help - and I am being serious not slating off - nobody could possibly be that sad without needing external support

It is common for the one or two to be sad for most of the posts they want to comment on as apparently it is much to factual and brings them sadness.  I only post a sad emoji when the subject truly is sad like the post on the children in a daycare facility found to be infected.  That was sad.

31 minutes ago, Blumpie said:

Vaccines or lockdowns.  It's one or the other.  Period.

It's only a matter of time till the latter occurs.  

Some flu isn't it?  IT's not flu season and yet it's rampant, eh deniers?  (not directed at the original poster)

Nup. It's both plus real mass testing and tracing. Also putting all your eggs into the vaccine basket is problematic. Prophylaxis must also be in the mix.

I have an appointment tomorrow at BHP for a PCR-test ahead of my flight. I hope this sudden worsening will not produce such a shortage of test they tell me "cannot do".

My GF just informed me that two of her Aunts from down in Bang Na are now in the hospital where they have been moved from a field hospital.  One is apparently in very serious condition and my GF is trying to find out more but is not able to get any information as to which hospital she was transferred to late yesterday.  Not sounding very good for her based upon the report from her husband who is still in the field hospital and so are their two children.

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

My GF just informed me that two of her Aunts from down in Bang Na are now in the hospital where they have been moved from a field hospital.  One is apparently in very serious condition and my GF is trying to find out more but is not able to get any information as to which hospital she was transferred to late yesterday.  Not sounding very good for her based upon the report from her husband who is still in the field hospital and so are their two children.

This truly deserves the sad emoji. Some on here use the sad emoji as a function of disagreement and they use it a lot. Very sad news.

4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

My GF just informed me that two of her Aunts from down in Bang Na are now in the hospital where they have been moved from a field hospital.  One is apparently in very serious condition and my GF is trying to find out more but is not able to get any information as to which hospital she was transferred to late yesterday.  Not sounding very good for her based upon the report from her husband who is still in the field hospital and so are their two children.

Your GF has a husband?

Headed out to load up on supplies and restock the pantry.  I have a bad feeling the feces is about to hit the fan and don't want to be caught short.

6 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Nup. It's both plus real mass testing and tracing. Also putting all your eggs into the vaccine basket is problematic. Prophylaxis must also be in the mix.

The chances of that happening are about the same as the silly sandbox theory going ahead and being a huge success.

That will be the next announcement - cancelled.  And the only ones left holding the bag are those that are foolish enough to have fallen for it.  

16 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

I never travel in buses. 

So when I land udon Thani airport (example) who do I turn myself in to?

Sheriff?

So your saying that buses coming into Isan are checked with roadblock?

It is common in the village for the headman to mandate and enforce Covid restrictions. Everyone knows when someone arrives from Bangkok, or a Farang is in town.

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

Headed out to load up on supplies and restock the pantry.  I have a bad feeling the feces is about to hit the fan and don't want to be caught short.

I can’t think of any country where Covid was so bad that stores did not have inventory, apart from toilet paper and the like.

2 minutes ago, Blumpie said:

The chances of that happening are about the same as the silly sandbox theory going ahead and being a huge success.

That will be the next announcement - cancelled.  And the only ones left holding the bag are those that are foolish enough to have fallen for it.  

I doubt they would cancel the Sandbox any more than they cancelled the STV.

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

It is common in the village for the headman to mandate and enforce Covid restrictions. Everyone knows when someone arrives from Bangkok, or a Farang is in town.

So now it's that the "quarantine" (your word in previous post about this") along with PCR test is for villages.

Not for the cities in Isan

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I can’t think of any country where Covid was so bad that stores did not have inventory, apart from toilet paper and the like.

I guess you don't recall what happened in China when their lockdown occurred.  People were all going hungry because there was no food.  None.  

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

So now it's that the "quarantine" (your word in previous post about this") along with PCR test is for villages.

Not for the cities in Isan

I have no idea how or if cities in Isaan handle Covid restrictions.

14 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

It is common for the one or two to be sad for most of the posts they want to comment on as apparently it is much to factual and brings them sadness.  I only post a sad emoji when the subject truly is sad like the post on the children in a daycare facility found to be infected.  That was sad.

my post was not directed at you ????

5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Your GF has a husband?

 

10 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

My GF just informed me that two of her Aunts from down in Bang Na are now in the hospital where they have been moved from a field hospital.  One is apparently in very serious condition and my GF is trying to find out more but is not able to get any information as to which hospital she was transferred to late yesterday.  Not sounding very good for her based upon the report from her husband who is still in the field hospital and so are their two children.

Do you not understand that her in this statement is about the aunt. 

Decided to delay my flight from Phuket to Bangkok again, at least I can walk miles in fresh air and try to maintain reasonable health while not vaccinated, situation in BKK is not good.... 

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I have no idea how or if cities in Isaan handle Covid restrictions.

Highlight the "no idea" and your on the money.