Dystopian blues anyone?

[Fat is a type of crazy]

1 hour ago, kynikoi said:

 

There have been a few dystopias in our modern age. Stalinist Russia, 1944-5 Germany, Mao's + today's communist PRC, Cambodia 1975-79, Myanmar since forever.

 

Many Arab countries. Korea and Japan arguably. Much of Africa. Australia, UK, US and Canada. Especially all the cameras in UK.

 

Thailand.

 

We're living it.

First paragraph No problem

Then Australia and Canada as a dystopia Sounds like a right winger thinking too much 

[BritManToo]

5 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

First paragraph No problem

Then Australia and Canada as a dystopia Sounds like a right winger thinking too much 

Have you tried leaving Australia without government permission lately?

Or collecting your state pension while living in Thailand?

 

Went on holiday ski-ing to Canada with my teenage son a while back, the "has this man abducted you" grilling of the boy by Canadian Immigration was unbelievable.

Then there was nowhere for him to eat in the evening because nowhere serving alcohol allowed people under age 18 to enter (and everywhere in Jasper served alcohol) ........ he had to eat alone in the room.

 

Both extreme nanny state, anti-men dystopias IMHO.

Edited July 5, 2021 by BritManToo

[Fat is a type of crazy]

Just now, BritManToo said:

Have you tried leaving Australia without government permission lately?

There's a lot of posts here that seem to see authority as some evil dark force that have an agenda to cower us into submission. Australia has done really well with covid - the one problem has been people arriving from overseas and because they are stuck in hotels it spreads. 

I would love a holiday in Thailand but clearly it's difficult for the reason you give and the state of Thailand.

A bit of common sense goes a long way in seeing that when there's no covid we have been able to do what we want except travel. Qantas is putting pressure on the Govt to relax rules and they will over time. Not ideal and I may not agree with all the decisions but I don't think there's a secret government agenda behind the decisions. Like I say people think too much. Too much time on their hands. 

[BritManToo]

2 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

There's a lot of posts here that seem to see authority as some evil dark force that have an agenda to cower us into submission. Australia has done really well with covid - the one problem has been people arriving from overseas and because they are stuck in hotels it spreads. 

I said leaving!

 

A bit of common sense would mean no COVID restrictions, and allowing those few old people at risk to choose their own risk levels without destroying the finances of the whole country.

 

Controlling your population is the 'not so secret agenda' of every government in the history of man. The only limit on the governments is fear of revolution.

Edited July 5, 2021 by BritManToo

[Fat is a type of crazy]

Just now, BritManToo said:

I said leaving!

Keep in mind many many people have been allowed to go overseas - just need to give  a decent reason and show they won't come back in the short term . When people leave they want to come back. I have no issue with disagreeing with it - just with some conspiracy theory as to why it happens. 

[Kwasaki]

On 7/4/2021 at 12:21 PM, ChrisKC said:

I am not part of the "dictionary police". You appeared not to know the meaning, though you knew, if you consulted - not swallowed a dictionary, you would have. But to save you the seemingly onerous task of looking it up yourself, I thought, without cynicism, to describe it briefly in an attempt to help!

No I had to look up the word it is not a common word.

Good for you though but my point was there are many on here on TVF who's 1st language is not hiso English words they are not helpful in posts on a forum such as this IMHO. 

 

[Kwasaki]

On 7/4/2021 at 12:43 PM, ChrisKC said:

 

"You are only one thought away from either!", not, "You are the only one". Please use the whole of my quote to determine correct meaning!

 

In the meantime, may your "utopianistic" thoughts follow you wherever you go! No need to look it up - it is a kind thought from my heart!

People like you on ear are funny, just carry on trying to be clever. 555

[ChrisKC]

12 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

People like you on ear are funny, just carry on trying to be clever. 555

 

13 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

People like you on ear are funny, just carry on trying to be clever. 555

Point taken but the word "Dystopian" was in the Title so was worth an explanation for those (second-language ones) who might not have heard it before. Also I was not the only one to continue using the word in response to the OP.

 

Interestingly, the word "blues" was also used for which non-native speakers might first think of the music version.

 

The person I was mainly addressing with my comment used an English idiom: "have you swallowed the dictionary" to give an impression that my comment was made to "show off" my knowledge of "big words".

 

Perhaps you are unaware of the difference between "trying to be clever" and me being a little facetious or mischievous to lighten the tone, in order not to turn this discussion into something it isn't.

[kynikoi]

4 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

First paragraph No problem

Then Australia and Canada as a dystopia Sounds like a right winger thinking too much 

 

Not looking for your approval for my thoughts and beliefs. Ironically, a bit dystopian.

 

Canada has criminalized speech.

 

Edited July 5, 2021 by kynikoi

[Kwasaki]

11 minutes ago, ChrisKC said:

 

Point taken but the word "Dystopian" was in the Title so was worth an explanation for those (second-language ones) who might not have heard it before. Also I was not the only one to continue using the word in response to the OP.

 

Interestingly, the word "blues" was also used for which non-native speakers might first think of the music version.

 

The person I was mainly addressing with my comment used an English idiom: "have you swallowed the dictionary" to give an impression that my comment was made to "show off" my knowledge of "big words".

 

Perhaps you are unaware of the difference between "trying to be clever" and me being a little facetious or mischievous to lighten the tone, in order not to turn this discussion into something it isn't.

OK fair call,  I will leave it there as you seems to take things toooo personally.

Have a good week. 

[johng]

On 7/2/2021 at 4:52 PM, 1FinickyOne said:

What do you find yourself looking forward to... ??

I'm looking forward to the new Matrix movie  and hoping I'd take the red pill when the choice comes.

[StreetCowboy]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

She is smart. The chances of you being infected are infinitesimally small. Same with her. And the masks have limited effectiveness anyway. This is NOT the Zombie Apocalypse. 

We are a long way past the zombie apocalypse, which started many years ago.  You've not been paying attention.  We've discussed the zombie apocalypse before.

 

SC

[canthai55]

19 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I always wondered what would happen if financial institutions started believing in Climate change and refused to fund any property purchases less than 100m above sea level?

 

[canthai55]

16 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Went on holiday ski-ing to Canada with my teenage son a while back, the "has this man abducted you" grilling of the boy by Canadian Immigration was unbelievable.

Back in the days when I only stayed in LOS for 6 months at a time the Customs at YVR used to take one look at my passport - 6 months in Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam ... and rip all my stuff apart.

Learned from that about cloud storage, they open the laptop and there is nothing there but the operating system.

Ask me why - I just smile. 555

18 year olds with a badge and a gun.

Flew from many airports and YVR is by far the worst for those Thugs

One told me once - 'I'm just doing my job ...'

I replied - 'Oh, the concentration camp guard excuse !!!'

Got a dirty look for that, and I just laughed.

[canthai55]

12 hours ago, kynikoi said:

Canada has criminalized speech.

 

[canthai55]

 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, canthai55 said:

Back in the days when I only stayed in LOS for 6 months at a time the Customs at YVR used to take one look at my passport - 6 months in Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam ... and rip all my stuff apart.

Learned from that about cloud storage, they open the laptop and there is nothing there but the operating system.

Ask me why - I just smile. 555

18 year olds with a badge and a gun.

Flew from many airports and YVR is by far the worst for those Thugs

One told me once - 'I'm just doing my job ...'

I replied - 'Oh, the concentration camp guard excuse !!!'

Got a dirty look for that, and I just laughed.

I learned quick that the UK border guards customs officers are on the lookout for single men arriving from Thailand. I found that if I had a conversation with another passenger, preferably female, while going through the Nothing to Declare exit it usually succeeded in avoiding the search everything for 4 hours garbage.

Why anyone would have anything naughty on a laptop while traveling nowadays is beyond me. So easy to avoid, thanks to big tech.

However, I have thought of filling a 2 tb external hard drive with legal soft porn, and letting them waste hours looking for something to arrest me for.

 

PS. The lengths those <deleted>s will go to is crazy stuff.

I had sewing needles removed from my carry on in Thailand, and the British mob stole, err, confiscated a stubby screwdriver. When asked why, I was told that I might use it to remove the bolts holding the seats down on the plane.

Edited July 6, 2021 by thaibeachlovers

[thaibeachlovers]

14 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

No I had to look up the word it is not a common word.

Good for you though but my point was there are many on here on TVF who's 1st language is not hiso English words they are not helpful in posts on a forum such as this IMHO. 

 

Seriously? If anyone can post on TVF they can look up a word with google in about 30 seconds. Why should we not use normal  English words just because some might not be familiar with them?

[Kwasaki]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Seriously? If anyone can post on TVF they can look up a word with google in about 30 seconds. Why should we not use normal  English words just because some might not be familiar with them?

Normal seriously.

Up to you but I just say a Welsh train station instead of llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.

[thaibeachlovers]

5 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Normal seriously.

Up to you but I just say a Welsh train station instead of llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.

Posting in Welsh is not permitted on TVF, so that is somewhat irrelevant, IMO.

Edited July 6, 2021 by thaibeachlovers

[Kwasaki]

56 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Posting in Welsh is not permitted on TVF, so that is somewhat irrelevant, IMO.

Oh! sorry Mr Moderator.

Do I get a holiday. ????555

[Kwasaki]

On 7/2/2021 at 7:20 PM, 1FinickyOne said:

1 : an imagined world or society in which people lead wretched, dehumanized , fearful lives 

It comes after brakes and before lug nuts... 

Maybe you would like this, just a bit of fun, I have friend whose a writer seeing you laughed at welsh stations and reading this can help with sleep.

 

The interrogatory which inaugurated this particular interlocution presupposes the existence of an erudite but languorous subclass of

TVF participants who are prepared to eschew the customary virtues of transparency and comprehensibility by abandoning the apothegmatic and the laconic and choosing instead a wilfully perverse course of superfluous prolixity, unwarranted circumlocution (not to mention the intrusive parenthetical intercalation of tangential ephemera) and pernicious obfuscation in order to achieve a result whereby the transmission of semantic content is fatally subordinated to an egregious, vulgar, literary braggadocio in which the superficial and ephemeral grandiloquence of an unfettered and intemperate vocabulary coruscates inconsequentially to the detriment of interpersonal communication, pedagogy or empathetic rapprochement.

 

Seriously, though, I generally don’t have any trouble with big words if they’re used correctly.

Unfamiliar technical jargon and uncommon big words can throw me but that’s because I simply don’t know the words, not because they’re long or complicated.

I just like to keep it simple like so most everybody knows what I'm saying.

I'm a cockney by the way. 555

[1FinickyOne]

46 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Maybe you would like this, just a bit of fun, I have friend whose a writer seeing you laughed at welsh stations and reading this can help with sleep.

 

The interrogatory which inaugurated this particular interlocution presupposes the existence of an erudite but languorous subclass of

TVF participants who are prepared to eschew the customary virtues of transparency and comprehensibility by abandoning the apothegmatic and the laconic and choosing instead a wilfully perverse course of superfluous prolixity, unwarranted circumlocution (not to mention the intrusive parenthetical intercalation of tangential ephemera) and pernicious obfuscation in order to achieve a result whereby the transmission of semantic content is fatally subordinated to an egregious, vulgar, literary braggadocio in which the superficial and ephemeral grandiloquence of an unfettered and intemperate vocabulary coruscates inconsequentially to the detriment of interpersonal communication, pedagogy or empathetic rapprochement.

 

Seriously, though, I generally don’t have any trouble with big words if they’re used correctly.

Unfamiliar technical jargon and uncommon big words can throw me but that’s because I simply don’t know the words, not because they’re long or complicated.

I just like to keep it simple like so most everybody knows what I'm saying.

I'm a cockney by the way. 555

reading that gives me a headache... but I am not judgmental... I think we all have different interests and aptitudes... if you gave me a manual to DIY or repair something I would probably just give it back to you and ask if there wasn't someone we could pay to fix it.. I have similar issues w/computers.. I get through the first 5 steps and then have no idea what they want me to do.. 

[Golden Triangle]

Until a few minutes ago I had no idea what 'Dystopian' meant & even now I could care less, the world, or the majority of it is f****d beyond belief, Thailand, well it's just a joke waiting to be taken over by the CCP at the earliest opportunity, then we'll all be sent home, if we're lucky.

 

At 68 (nearly) I'm happy to wake up every morning, but the restrictions make it hard to have fun, which for me is trips away & having food and a beer or 2 with the Mrs family and friends around the country, I really wish this stupid faux government got their vaccine act together.

[Kwasaki]

47 minutes ago, 1FinickyOne said:

reading that gives me a headache...

It all makes sense if you can get to the end of it. 555 

[utalkin2me]

Open border, open every business, open it all

[thaibeachlovers]

Threads on the Pub always interesting. This one has gone from a dystopian future now, to a dispute about "ain't".

[DBath]

25 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Threads on the Pub always interesting. This one has gone from a dystopian future now, to a dispute about "ain't".

True, I think it’s pretty much a dead horse at this point. This is one of those tangents where you look back, shake your head and say, “did I really allow myself to take part in that?”

[Sparktrader]

On 7/19/2021 at 11:16 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Threads on the Pub always interesting. This one has gone from a dystopian future now, to a dispute about "ain't".

Google answered the question.

[The Hammer2021]

The virus has won. Nothing can beat it it. It's unstoppable.