AstraZeneca Side-effects

[pookiki]

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Herpes May flare up more readily when the body is tired, worn down etc

 

Thus rather than a direct response to the vaccine the herpes flare up may be due to the body being tired, i.e. an indirect response. 

Please consider that the 'shingles' blisters were all in the vicinity of the vaccination site. When I had my very painful root canal. the shingle blisters were on the skin of my cheek on the same side as the root canal. Therefore, I will reasonably conclude that the shingles was a direct result of the vaccine. I'm sure as time goes on, others will report other nerve problems or nerve inflammations associated with AZ.  Time will tell.

[rabas]

3 hours ago, pookiki said:

I went to the hospital this morning to get a refill on my pain medication. Two other doctors examined me and determined that I have shingles - a diagnosis with which I fully agree. So, if you have had chickenpox or shingles in the past, please know that the AZ vaccination can trigger a nonoccurence! And please know that the pain medications available in Thailand are not all that good for the pain one experiences with shingles.

 

Congratulations on making progress. Sorry to hear you have shingles again!  I looked at shingles and saw scattered reports of it being re-triggered by the vaccine. Israel reported several cases and a California clinic reported more. If it's still active you can test for the virus but two doctors' diagnoses should be good to go.  Here is the Israel report. Will you now take acyclovir?

 

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/92106

 

Herpes is often triggered by irritation, which can trigger immune responses.  The Israel cases were mostly auto-immune sensitive people. The big red spots caused by the vaccines clearly show irritation.

 

[pookiki]

48 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Congratulations on making progress. Sorry to hear you have shingles again!  I looked at shingles and saw scattered reports of it being re-triggered by the vaccine. Israel reported several cases and a California clinic reported more. If it's still active you can test for the virus but two doctors' diagnoses should be good to go.  Here is the Israel report. Will you now take acyclovir?

 

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/92106

 

Herpes is often triggered by irritation, which can trigger immune responses.  The Israel cases were mostly auto-immune sensitive people. The big red spots caused by the vaccines clearly show irritation.

 

Yes, I will be taking 'Valtrex' for ten days. The problem in Thailand is getting a good pain killer (opiate based) when you have this kind of pain. What I was given was paracetamol with codeine (300mg/15mg)/tab. I asked for oxycodone or paracetamol/codeine pill of greater strength.  Nothing else was available. I guess these doctors have never had shingles so they don't know the intensity of pain an individual feels.  Such is life. Thanks for relevant info.  There will be more to learn about all of these vaccines I'm sure.

[pookiki]

8 hours ago, rabas said:

 

Congratulations on making progress. Sorry to hear you have shingles again!  I looked at shingles and saw scattered reports of it being re-triggered by the vaccine. Israel reported several cases and a California clinic reported more. If it's still active you can test for the virus but two doctors' diagnoses should be good to go.  Here is the Israel report. Will you now take acyclovir?

 

https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/covid19vaccine/92106

 

Herpes is often triggered by irritation, which can trigger immune responses.  The Israel cases were mostly auto-immune sensitive people. The big red spots caused by the vaccines clearly show irritation.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news3lv.com/amp/news/videos/studying-link-between-covid-19-vaccine-and-shingles-cases

 

[Dogmatix]

On 7/5/2021 at 2:01 PM, rbkk said:

"...a very painful root canal"

15 years ago I went to the counter of a small pharmacy inside  a Tesco Mall for the first time. They gave me Tramadol for my tooth pain. Strong stuff. Not sure if they are allowed to do that now but worth asking.

 

Tramadol sales no longer allowed over the counter. Hospital only now.

[flexomike]

Got my Astrazeneca vaccination in Rayong yesterday, only side effect so far is a little bit of a headache and a little stiffness, if this is as bad as it gets no problem

[Lorry]

1 hour ago, Dogmatix said:

 

Tramadol sales no longer allowed over the counter. Hospital only now.

Not true.

The legal details have been explained in the health forum about 100 times. 

De facto, in Bangkok you need to ask 5 to 10 pharmacies to get it. And maybe only one or 2 strips.

[Gashead]

Had my first AZ shot on 23rd.  Had chills, slight headache during the night but felt fine by noon next day.  But last few days I've had a dull ache in my (vaccinated) shoulder. Not sure if its AZ related or I've just tweaked something.  Odd coincidence though.

[tlandtday]

These are short term effects.  No one as yet knows the long term effects of these vaccines as they have not gone through the normal trials like previous vaccines.

[billsmart]

I got my AstraZeneca shot on 7 June.

I felt lightheaded almost immediately after the shot, and that condition persisted all the rest of the day. The next day, however, I was fine.

 

For the next week or so, I noticed my blood pressure was a little lower than normal, and my heartrate (BPM - beats per minute) was low, sometime as low as 40.

 

All those symptoms slowly disappeared after a couple weeks. I now feel fine and am looking forward to my second shot in September,

 

 

[Watch Dog]

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[vandeventer]

On 7/4/2021 at 2:27 PM, rabas said:

 

Goodness!  I do too.  I just looked after reading your post.  I got my AZ shot on the 23, had quite mild symptoms part of the 24th, the muscle was slightly sore for about 3 days.

 

Then last night, half asleep, I was surprised to feel a little tingle at the injection site. After reading your post I looked in a mirror and saw a very pronounced reddish patch that looks splotchy like a rash. It's about the size of a fist.

 

I could also measure a half degree C temperature rise from the  same place on my other shoulder.  I hardly ever get rashes, obviously from the shot.

 

 

If you look on the internet you will start seeing groups of people with sever side effects getting together not knowing what to do as their doctors don't know what to do. This is happening with all the approved vaccines for covid in the USA.

[tandor]

On 7/4/2021 at 4:05 PM, pookiki said:

I hope you don't experience the pain that I have had at night.  Worst pain I have had since I had shingles. And I just looked at my arm, again.  The hives have turned to blisters filled with yellow liquid.

...your doctor is speculating about having the same reaction after your 2nd shot. There is no clinical evidence to support this...each person reacts differently....ts a lottery. Either you have the vaccination and put up with some slight discomfort, or you risk catching a deadly virus and end up either hospitalised or dead.

[oldcpu]

I had my AstraZeneca jab in the morning and felt fine the rest of the day. 

 

The next day I woke up with what could be best described as a caffeine withdrawal headache that didn't go away all day no matter how much caffeine I drank.  I was also extra hungry all day although that may be unrelated.  I felt tired, lazy, lethargic all day - although my wife claims my laziness "same-same". ???? That evening when sleeping I woke up a few times with chills. 

 

The day after those symptoms I felt like a million dollars and was back to my regular exercise routine ( starting with 5km run very early in morning ( at sunrise)).

 

I have to say I have had far worse hangovers. ????

 

I am age 67 ... I have read younger people tend to have stronger symptoms.

 

 

Edited July 8, 2021 by oldcpu

[rabas]

51 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

If you look on the internet you will start seeing groups of people with sever side effects getting together not knowing what to do as their doctors don't know what to do. This is happening with all the approved vaccines for covid in the USA.

AstraZenica is from Oxford England. But the red covid arm is common to all vaccines and doctors know about it. Just look at the internet. It's one of the symptoms listed under adverse reactions.

 

Mine was so mild I didn't notice until I read the OP and looked in the mirror. I was suprised!

[rwill]

My wife received her first Astra shot on the 22nd too.  She has not had any type of rash.  But her arm is still swollen slightly and sore to the touch.  A little lump in the muscle.

 

I had Sinovac the same day.  I never felt anything.

[rabas]

23 minutes ago, tandor said:

...your doctor is speculating about having the same reaction after your 2nd shot. There is no clinical evidence to support this...each person reacts differently....ts a lottery. Either you have the vaccination and put up with some slight discomfort, or you risk catching a deadly virus and end up either hospitalised or dead.

Now that he knows it was a rare shingles outbreak, he can start taking acyclovir before the second shot.

[Gandtee]

Can this irritation occur on other parts of the body? I had my first AZ jab on 30th June and have had no ill effects. But for the last couple of days, I've an itching irritation on my hip? AZ effect or something else?

[orientalist]

3 hours ago, billsmart said:

I felt lightheaded almost immediately after the shot, and that condition persisted all the rest of the day. The next day, however, I was fine.

I had what I would call an "altered state of consciousness" immediately and for 1 hour after the shot. Apparently this is one of the rarer side-effects of AZ. Late in the afternoon I had a temperature of 37.5C and felt like I was fighting a cold. I also had what felt a little like heartburn. Tylenol and Eno took care of it. I just had a slight headache and stiff arm the next day.

[fvw53]

On 7/4/2021 at 5:01 PM, cormanr7 said:

I had my first shot of AZ on June 22nd, so far only minor side-effects such as sore arm and moderate headache that disappeared after ca 24h

From the literature it appear that hives (urticaria, red itchy welts) sometimes occur only one to two weeks after administration of AZ (or other) vaccine, see this quote from the Melbourne vaccination centre  'Delayed urticaria following a COVID-19 vaccine. Acute generalised urticaria can occur one or two weeks following vaccination. The symptoms can last on average 3-4 weeks but may resolve more rapidly. The urticaria can be generalised and intensely itchy. For adults, symptoms can be managed with up to 4 tablets per day of non-sedating over-the-counter antihistamines (such as cetirizine 10mg, loratadine 10mg or fexofenadine 180mg). This type of urticaria with onset that is delayed after the vaccination is generally not an indication of reproducible allergy to the vaccine and therefore investigations are not indicated. Future vaccinations can be given in a routine environment, with a 15-minute post vaccination observation period. If symptoms are persistent or there are additional concerns, then review by an immunisation specialist or allergist could be considered (end quote). See https://mvec.mcri.edu.au/references/covid-19-vaccines-and-allergy/ for more info.

Pookiki: pls see a physician/doctor!

 

....in my home country (EU) I can go directly to a GP....but where do you go in Thailand where only specialists can be consulted in hospitals with many days (or weeks) of waiting time.

[bert bloggs]

Had my az jab 4 weeks ago,felt a slight pain as she injected it ,nothing else at all since then

[jomtienisgood]

On 7/4/2021 at 2:31 PM, Lorry said:

Anecdotal evidence says reactions delayed by up to a week are common. Ask friends and relatives. 

Scientific evidence says no. Read the journals. 

????

There are rumors the AZ manufactured in TH doesn't have the exactly the same ingredients as the European one... It seems the Asian AZ would no longer be accepted as vaccination to go to Europe??????

[jomtienisgood]

35 minutes ago, fvw53 said:

....in my home country (EU) I can go directly to a GP....but where do you go in Thailand where only specialists can be consulted in hospitals with many days (or weeks) of waiting time.

Where did you ever experience such long waiting time?????

[jomtienisgood]

2 hours ago, rabas said:

AstraZenica is from Oxford England. But the red covid arm is common to all vaccines and doctors know about it. Just look at the internet. It's one of the symptoms listed under adverse reactions.

 

Mine was so mild I didn't notice until I read the OP and looked in the mirror. I was suprised!

Possibly autosuggestion?????

[jomtienisgood]

3 hours ago, vandeventer said:

If you look on the internet you will start seeing groups of people with sever side effects getting together not knowing what to do as their doctors don't know what to do. This is happening with all the approved vaccines for covid in the USA.

That's why these people are called ' the herd ' or ' sheep ' 5555555

[Tuvoc]

I had my first AZ vaccine here in the UK nearly 2 weeks ago. I was lucky it seems, no side effects whatsoever.  I hope the second one will be the same.

[Tony125]

Father-in-law  76 and I  73   had AZ shot at 11 AM   JUne 22nd.  He  had no reactions. I was fine untill 10 PM. Got chills/shivering , body ached all over, got a temperature  felt a little weak and nausous.   Got a small glass of Coke and took 400mg tab of Ibuprfen. Put cold compress on forehead and fell asleep. Woke up at 7:30 AM  and felt fine.  No side affects after that.

 

Germany to donate all remaining AstraZeneca vaccines in Aug

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-donate-all-remaining-astrazeneca-vaccines-aug-2021-07-07/

 

Most Germans prefer the BioNTech(22UAy.DE)/Pfizer(PFE.N) vaccine due to concerns over the side effects and efficacy of AstraZeneca.

This week, Health Minister Jens Spahn announced that those people who had already received a single dose of AstraZeneca would receive an mRNA vaccine like those of BioNTech/Pfizer or Moderna for their second dose.

The AstraZeneca vaccine does not feature in Germany's purchasing plans for next year.

[sometimewoodworker]

On 7/5/2021 at 1:19 PM, pookiki said:

My experience in Thailand is that the medical profession, as a whole, are most reluctant to prescribe opiate based pain medications unless you are hospitalized. 

That is exactly as it should be.
 

Opiates are highly addictive when not used to control the kinds of pain they are designed for. As the USA has discovered to its detriment. 
 

I have had an opiate pain medication a few times and for the correct kinds of pain they are superb. 

[bbabythai]

9 hours ago, orientalist said:

I also had what felt a little like heartburn.

I felt this as well after my AZ shot. 2 days of hell. fever, chills, head aches. Felt like altitude sickness

[Gandtee]

After receiving a second vaccination are you issued with a certificate of some sort to prove you have had the full course?