Thailand reports another record high new COVID-19 cases

[anchadian]

This news was initially posted by Bkk Brian in yesterday's same subject thread:

https://twitter.com/PravitR/status/1416563707715350529

 

BREAKING: According to

@Thairath_News

the partial lockdown will be increased to include Chachoengsao, Chonburi and Ayutthaya provinces starting from 20th July. There are now 13 provinces included. Curfew remains the same from 9pm-4am #COVID19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1416582809649512451

 

[BE88]

27 minutes ago, no deal said:

my wife and my son where teste 3 days ago we still waiting for the result!

Why your wife and child need testing and no you ?

[Mickeymaus]

18 minutes ago, no deal said:

my wife and my son where teste 3 days ago we still waiting for the result!

Why did they go for a test? I would not go as long as I feel okay.

 

But what surprises me is that people working with customers don't get tested. For instance in the Central Mall in Pattaya were recently very many cases. Why didn't the employees get tested?! Then the closed it for one day for desinfection. The next day they opened again without quarantine.

[Danderman123]

15 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

What does testing from a year ago and in the US have to do with today and here in Thailand.  A year ago they were just getting started and overloaded elsewhere, since then the labs have increased personnel and the testing process has not changed unless you pay extra for faster results much like the brown envelope issue.  

Since labs in Thailand are getting flooded with tests, I am suggesting that the notification process is likewise getting backed up, and in such circumstances, positive cases get notified first. That’s just common sense, to triage notification to the most urgent cases.

 

I am sorry that this may offend you.

[Danderman123]

6 minutes ago, anchadian said:

This news was initially posted by Bkk Brian in yesterday's same subject thread:

https://twitter.com/PravitR/status/1416563707715350529

 

BREAKING: According to

@Thairath_News

the partial lockdown will be increased to include Chachoengsao, Chonburi and Ayutthaya provinces starting from 20th July. There are now 13 provinces included. Curfew remains the same from 9pm-4am #COVID19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1416582809649512451

 

What I have seen so far for Chonburi is that the voluntary curfew is now less voluntary. But no news of restaurant closings.

[anchadian]

The Royal Gazette announced on Sunday tightening of Covid-19 measures from Tuesday.

The measures are:

▪︎ People living in dark red provinces (maximum and strictly controlled areas) are not allowed to go outdoors unless necessary.

▪︎ Curfew hours are imposed from 9pm to 4am.

▪︎ Restaurants, shopping malls and convenience stores must be closed from 8pm to 4am.

 

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003394

Edited July 18, 2021 by metisdead
Edited as per fair use policy, again.

[Blumpie]

24 minutes ago, Pravda said:

This is why after 8 years I decided to move and bring my wife with me. No way Thailand will be able to cope with this and economy will be ruined. There will be occasion rays of hope with opening up the country, but all I see is devastation. First world countries are better equipped to deal with this stuff. 

It is certainly developing into a worst case scenario.  You know, the vaccines are simply not rolling in at all.  And even if they did there is no way that they can vaccinate out of this wave.  In Indonesia they just pick up the bodies at home - no need to go to the hospital because there is no care.  

I think it is only inevitable that a very significant lockdown will occur or you will see a similar situation.  Hopefully I am dead wrong.  

Thailand has minimum one more year of a shut down economy when it comes to tourism.  Year being the high season of 2021 / 2022.  

[ThailandRyan]

6 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The Royal Gazette announced on Sunday tightening of Covid-19 measures from Tuesday.

The measures are:

▪︎ People living in dark red provinces (maximum and strictly controlled areas) are not allowed to go outdoors unless necessary.

▪︎ Curfew hours are imposed from 9pm to 4am.

▪︎ Restaurants, shopping malls and convenience stores must be closed from 8pm to 4am.

▪︎ Provincial governors must close venues and ban activities that could pose risk of Covid-19 infection for 14 days.

▪︎ Checkpoints will be set up to prevent people living in dark red provinces from inter-province travel.

▪︎ The number of passengers in public transport is limited to 50 per cent (only in dark red provinces).

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003394

Guess going outside to walk is now a punishable offense here in Bangkok and the other zones.  Wonder if you have a house and you go outside to swim if you will be violating this new decree. So we are essentially locked in and locked down unless we need to shop and or go to the doctors.  I guess a walk after dinner is just not necessary regardless of how many masks and gloves  one wears, yes sarcasm, but if this is what they are doing in the dark red zones, why limit it to those areas as the cases are still blooming everywhere else.

 

Families that live in condos and order food daily will be developing the drop basket and pully system to obtain their food from the riders and delivery folks.

Edited July 18, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[wensiensheng]

I’m a bit concerned that government decision making is becoming even more erratic and reactive.

 

Officials also said that further restrictive measures may be introduced early next week.

 

"From the current situation we predict that if we don't introduce more measures there will be more infections and deaths in large numbers for the next three to four months," Opas Karnkawinpong, director-general of the Department of Disease Control, said, advising people to stay at home as much as possible and avoid travel between provinces.”

 

nothing has changed between last week and this week other than a continuation of an existing negative  trend. There haven’t been any startling new factors to contend with, simply the same factors extrapolating to statistics that are more negative.

 

with that in mind, it seems incredible that only 1 week after having introduced new and further restrictions, the authorities say that more are needed. I say incredible, because surely when only last week considering what measures are required, the government took into account all known factors and reached a decision. One week later, they consider those same factors and seem likely to reach different decisions.

 

if decision making is going to be based on current day statistics, Thailand will never effect any control on this virus. Due to their being lagging indicators, the next two weeks worth of case numbers are already more or less baked into the system and the next 5 weeks of deaths. Deciding what needs to be done today, to influence the future direction of those numbers, should be based on projections of how bad the situation will be in a months time, because in reality THAT is where we are now. Today’s numbers reflect the position of 2/3 weeks ago.

 

at this rate there will be new incremental restrictions introduced every week and they will have a minimal effect on the virus, if any.

 

If the government has decided that it will ride out the delta wave and accept the consequences, then that is a strategy. I disagree with it, but it is an option. But these continually increasing restrictions in response to the last weeks numbers seems counter intuitive. All the negatives of restrictions, none of the benefits of adequate restrictions to control the direction of the virus.

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The Royal Gazette announced on Sunday tightening of Covid-19 measures from Tuesday.

The measures are:

▪︎ People living in dark red provinces (maximum and strictly controlled areas) are not allowed to go outdoors unless necessary.

▪︎ Curfew hours are imposed from 9pm to 4am.

▪︎ Restaurants, shopping malls and convenience stores must be closed from 8pm to 4am.

 

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003394

 

That sounds very similar to the original measures imposed last Monday, depending on how seriously they plan on enforcing the not going outside item.

 

That before was something they "encouraged."  And "necessary" was generally considered to be things like shopping for food, banking, medical stuff, etc. And presumably that will remain the same.

 

Among other items on the latest list, the public transit limit on occupancy item is new:

 

Here's my own summary (not quoted from any other source) of last Monday's measures that still are currently in effect:

 

BKK and 5 adjoining province lockdown restrictions beyond 9 p.m. to 4 a.m. daily curfew:

 

1.  Government/private “Work From Home” encouraged

2.  Public transport (buses & rail lines) close at 9 p.m. until at least 4 a.m.

3.  Department store, shopping center, and community mall shops closed, except for…

4.  Within malls and centers, the following can open until 8 p.m.: supermarkets, takeout food outlets, banks & financial institutions, pharmacies, building supplies, postage/parcel & mobile phone related shops.

5.  No sit-down dining allowed. Takeout food & beverage service allowed till 8 p.m.

6.  Convenience stores & night markets close 8 p.m. to 4 a.m.

7.  Schools, indoor fitness centers, massage parlors and spas closed

8.  Public gatherings of more than 5 people banned.

Edited July 18, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[smedly]

1 hour ago, Swimfan said:

Nothing other than putting brakes on movement will stop the train now. 
Its evident the virus is spreading faster by the day. 

too late, that train has already left the station weeks ago when sensible folks here were calling for travel restrictions 

 

now pattaya is on a very worrying path to a very dark place 

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

That sounds very similar to the original measures imposed last Monday, depending on how seriously they plan on enforcing the not going outside item. That before was something they "encouraged."  And the public transit limit on occupancy item is new:

 

Here's the summary of last Monday's measures that still are currently in effect:

 

BKK and 5 adjoining province lockdown restrictions beyond 9 p.m. to 4 a.m. daily curfew:

 

1.  Government/private “Work From Home” encouraged

2.  Public transport (buses & rail lines) close at 9 p.m. until at least 4 a.m.

3.  Department store, shopping center, and community mall shops closed, except for…

4.  Within malls and centers, the following can open until 8 p.m.: supermarkets, takeout food outlets, banks & financial institutions, pharmacies, building supplies, postage/parcel & mobile phone related shops.

5.  No sit-down dining allowed. Takeout food & beverage service allowed till 8 p.m.

6.  Convenience stores & night markets close 8 p.m. to 4 a.m.

7.  Schools, indoor fitness centers, massage parlors and spas closed

8.  Public gatherings of more than 5 people banned.

Indeed it is although it is also now confirmed on the increase of added dark red zones, from the same article:

 

Meanwhile, the number of dark red provinces has increased to 13. They are: Bangkok, Chachoengsao, Chonburi, Nakhon Pathom, Nonthaburi, Narathiwat, Pathum Thani, Pattani, Ayutthaya, Yala, Songkhla, Samut Prakan and Samut Sakhon.

Edited July 18, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[madlove]

Goldman Sachs slashed its 2021 growth forecasts for major Southeast Asian economies as the region grapples with a renewed surge in Covid-19 infections.

The spread of the more transmissible delta variant has pushed daily Covid cases to record highs in Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand in recent weeks.

Goldman predicted that Singapore and Malaysia will reopen this year, while the other Southeast Asian economies will only do so in the first half of 2022.

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Indeed it is although it is also now confirmed on the added dark red zones, from the same article:

 

Meanwhile, the number of dark red provinces has increased to 13. They are: Bangkok, Chachoengsao, Chonburi, Nakhon Pathom, Nonthaburi, Narathiwat, Pathum Thani, Pattani, Ayutthaya, Yala, Songkhla, Samut Prakan and Samut Sakhon.

 

Yep, the overnight curfew and interprovincial travel restrictions this past week supposedly was only for the 10 provinces, BKK, five adjoining and four southern provinces.

 

But as best as I could tell, the various store closure and limited operating hours items were only for BKK and its five adjoining provinces, and not the four southern provinces.

 

[wensiensheng]

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Yep, the overnight curfew and interprovincial travel restrictions this past week supposedly was only for the 10 provinces, BKK, five adjoining and four southern provinces.

 

But as best as I could tell, the various store closure and limited operating hours items were only for BKK and its five adjoining provinces, and not the four southern provinces.

 

Glad they made it easy for everyone to understand at a glance…..

[smedly]

57 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

This is what Delta looks like when it is completely out of control. Yesterday the UK had 54,000. If testing here was on par with the UK then it would be fair to assume so would the infection numbers probably much higher. Now past 400k and rapidly moving toward 500k. Many of us on here said we are watching a disater in the making some time ago. I believe it's here.

Just watched a report from the USA - numbers there are building fast but the most important data I took from it - 97% of those needing medical care are unvaccinated - many who refuse to accept it - go figure 

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, madlove said:

Goldman Sachs slashed its 2021 growth forecasts for major Southeast Asian economies as the region grapples with a renewed surge in Covid-19 infections.

The spread of the more transmissible delta variant has pushed daily Covid cases to record highs in Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand in recent weeks.

Goldman predicted that Singapore and Malaysia will reopen this year, while the other Southeast Asian economies will only do so in the first half of 2022.

 

 

The truth is in the inaction by this government and those others who were to slow and failed jump in with both feet to get ahead of the issues.  Thailand has always been the last to the table, just like when I cooked a home meal the family would get up and eat it when they wanted instead of eating it while it was hot like I did.  The term "Slowly" is ingrained in their daily actions and behaviors, so it is no surprise this government  has been so slow on the uptake...just my view, and no it is not a bash, but a statement based upon reality and what I see daily.

[Blumpie]

1 minute ago, smedly said:

Just watched a report from the USA - numbers there are building fast but the most important data I took from it - 97% of those needing medical care are unvaccinated - many who refuse to accept it - go figure 

Those that refuse a vaccine can croak for all I care.  

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 minute ago, smedly said:

Just watched a report from the USA - numbers there are building fast but the most important data I took from it - 97% of those needing medical care are unvaccinated - many who refuse to accept it - go figure 

 

Go figure indeed...

 

Here, we've got people dying COVID who desperately want vaccines but can't get them.

 

In the U.S., they've got plenty of available vaccines, and people dying of COVID who have refused to take them.

 

There's something seriously wrong with that picture.

 

 

[James105]

 

18 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The Royal Gazette announced on Sunday tightening of Covid-19 measures from Tuesday.

The measures are:

▪︎ People living in dark red provinces (maximum and strictly controlled areas) are not allowed to go outdoors unless necessary.

▪︎ Curfew hours are imposed from 9pm to 4am.

▪︎ Restaurants, shopping malls and convenience stores must be closed from 8pm to 4am.

▪︎ Provincial governors must close venues and ban activities that could pose risk of Covid-19 infection for 14 days.

▪︎ Checkpoints will be set up to prevent people living in dark red provinces from inter-province travel.

▪︎ The number of passengers in public transport is limited to 50 per cent (only in dark red provinces).

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003394

I presume the part that outlined what additional support employees and businesses forced to close can expect to receive from the government was accidentally cut off?  

[Guderian]

1 hour ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

From the current situation we predict that if we don't introduce more measures there will be more infections and deaths in large numbers for the next three to four months,

It's not restrictions you need, mate, it's vaccinations! You've been averaging 250,000 shots per day, a bit over half of your stated target. On the weekends, vaccination slows down dramatically. Why? Can't you see that it's vastly cheaper and more effective for Thailand to vaccinate people than it is to try and impose ever-tougher restrictions on their lives, shut down more businesses and throw yet more people underneath the poverty bus? Why do you just about halt vaccination at hospitals over the weekends, this is the biggest national emergency since the Japanese invaded were kindly invited to enjoy their stay in Thailand, you should be jabbing arms 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. If you don't have enough vaccines, send your ministers to beg for them in Washington, London and Brussels, but, for God's's sake, do something positive and proactive, not negative and reactive like endless lockdowns. The Covid genie is out of the bottle and you can't put him back, only vaccines will help you now.

Edited July 18, 2021 by Guderian

[smedly]

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Is it correct that numbers in Bangkok are declining? Presumably the rates per province will be published later.

I don't know what happens to people testing positive with a testing kit, I suspect they are not officially recorded and sent home to isolate - only when they become sick will they get a PCR test and officially recorded in data - that is what I think, how do you think that would impact on reported cases in Thailand - IMO they will mostly go unreported especially in BKK

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, smedly said:

Just watched a report from the USA - numbers there are building fast but the most important data I took from it - 97% of those needing medical care are unvaccinated - many who refuse to accept it - go figure 

Yep they are loaded with those anti-vaxxers and conspiracy folks.  Just watched a video where a nurse scans the arm with a code reader that was not the arm vaccinated, comes up empty, then the one with the vaccination and numbers appear on the reader, thus she claims she has been chipped.  What is wrong with people who believe this crud......Covid vaccines are needed and is truly the only way we will come out the backend of this pandemic sooner than later.

[Pattaya Spotter]

1 hour ago, law ling said:

A lot of agony in store for sure.

 

Such a shame:

1. they didn't join COVAX and

2. they didn't order adequate vaxes (and still haven't)

 

The plan here seems to be: politicans are double-vaxed and the rest of you: endure it, and see you at the other end, if you make it.

Has there ever been an explanation why the government didn't join the Covax consortium...I believe just about every other country in SE Asia did so? As to your point about vaccines, it is plainly not true as millions have already been vaccinated, including myself (first shot), but not nearly enough quickly enough. And this is partially the fault of the government. 

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, James105 said:

 

I presume the part that outlined what additional support employees and businesses forced to close can expect to receive from the government was accidentally cut off?  

Too busy dealing with the purchase order for submarines to think about that

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Has there ever been an explanation why the government didn't join the Covax consortium...I believe just about every other country in SE Asia did so? As to your point about vaccines, it is plainly not true as millions have already been vaccinated, including myself (first shot), but not nearly enough quickly enough. And this is partially the fault of the government. 

Sure there will be a leaked confidential government document coming forward on that issue sooner rather than later, as they seem to popping up daily now..

[onthedarkside]

Several trolling posts have been removed. Trolling includes wishing death on other people.

 

[smedly]

27 minutes ago, anchadian said:

The Royal Gazette announced on Sunday tightening of Covid-19 measures from Tuesday.

The measures are:

▪︎ People living in dark red provinces (maximum and strictly controlled areas) are not allowed to go outdoors unless necessary.

▪︎ Curfew hours are imposed from 9pm to 4am.

▪︎ Restaurants, shopping malls and convenience stores must be closed from 8pm to 4am.

 

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40003394

are dark red restaurants take away only ?

[smedly]

29 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Guess going outside to walk is now a punishable offense here in Bangkok and the other zones.  Wonder if you have a house and you go outside to swim if you will be violating this new decree. So we are essentially locked in and locked down unless we need to shop and or go to the doctors.  I guess a walk after dinner is just not necessary regardless of how many masks and gloves  one wears, yes sarcasm, but if this is what they are doing in the dark red zones, why limit it to those areas as the cases are still blooming everywhere else.

 

Families that live in condos and order food daily will be developing the drop basket and pully system to obtain their food from the riders and delivery folks.

what about going to immigration which I need to do in 2 weeks 

 

[TheFishman1]

Anybody out there have the numbers in Chiang Mai of people with the virus TIT